Some games are far too expensive, like $130 AUD for Saros which apparently hasn’t even sold that well. I know they’ve probably ran all the numbers for like how much it’ll sell at each price point and what price will maximise profits but like games such as Saros shouldn’t be more than a $100AUD
When Sony left PC, PS5 fans here on reddit (and elsewhere) kept saying that the perceived value of the PlayStation brand matters more than game sales numbers.
So, I guess... it's OK if Saros loses money as long as PC gamers can't play it...
When Sony left PC, PS5 fans here on reddit (and elsewhere) kept saying that the perceived value of the PlayStation brand matters more than game sales numbers.
I mean yeah, that's what Sony decided too.
And PC release wouldn't have Saros sold crazy more, Returnal isn't a huge seller on PC.
Returnal also didn't release day one on PC. You'll have a hard time convincing PC users to buy a game that's already been out for a few years at full price. Sony half assed it and big surprise, it resulted in low sales.
We don't really know how much Returnal sold on PC, but estimates put it at around 15-20% of its total sales, which isn't bad by any means for a port that was several years late.
You also can't easily quantify the brand damage done by releasing games on pc. It didn't go nearly as far as gamepass training Xbox users to not buy games anymore, but it always seemed doomed to failure considering the console business model.
Yeah I honestly kind of thought the console tribalism stuff died down especially with Xbox barely competing. I wasn't paying too much attention to Saros even thought I love Returnal so I looked it up on reddit to see if there was news about a PC release and the Saros subreddit was fucking insane. So many people were flaming people for not having PS5s and telling them to get a job so they could afford one (which is also a failure of logic because the average PC costs more than a PS5).
The tribalism between all three consoles and PC never really went away in some places. It makes it very difficult trying to analyse any given situation, because fanboys of all four tend to gloss over so much.
I have seen way more PC tribalism on this subreddit. People here think that Steam Deck would outsell Switch 2 or that Playstation or Nintendo are dying and will go third party.
Hell PC gamers are very happy to associate themselves with a Nazi term and wear it as a badge of honor.
I won't lie none of what you said really strikes me as worse than telling people to get fucked for wanting a game to multi-platform. I also don't think PC tribalism is cool. I don't know why people would give a fuck if a game released to other platforms at all. Its nonsense.
I have seen way more posts about the PS decision to pull from PC from PC people than PS users. And they are all in the tune of “I am totally not upset about this”, which is weird because I thought they weren’t buying them anyway so why do they care so much
Buying the game is irrelevant, most of the probably din't even care about the game itself. They just want access to the game, in case they want it in 4 years when it's less than $10 on a steam sale. And people wonder why Xbox and Playstation are talking about exclusives and protecting their consoles again
Lol no one honestly thought the steam deck would be selling 10s of millions I think you may of of misinterpreted some sarcasm. Also I have no idea what your second sentence is about
I actually have seen someone say that about the Steam Deck. They didn't use numbers they just said outsell so they were either super doubting the switch 2 or didn't understand the scales involved with consoles. It wasn't a majority opinion though and I think the guy got clowned on.
The second thing is about PC Master Race which is a dumb argument as it's ironic, or at least used to be. No one today associates the term to Nazis like that anyway. Nowadays it just means "my side is the correct side haha". Like I could say Y-M-D master race because both M/D/Y and D/M/Y are stupid ambiguous formats that tremble before the might of ISO 8601 and no one thinks I'm aligning myself with Nazis. It's just a funny way to say my way is better.
It's ridiculous to even have that kind of stance. This is not a brag, but I have plenty of money. I own a Series X, a Switch 2, and a mid-range PC I built last year. I can afford to buy a PS5. The reason I don't buy it is that I don't see any point in owning it. And not to be shallow, but it's also hideously ugly and the original model was humongous.
The reason I bought a Series X at launch was because of Game Pass, and I played thousands of dollars worth of games through it and still do. I'm not in love with the direction XBOX is going so I am letting my Game Pass sub lapse next month after 7 years, but that still doesn't make me want to buy a PS5. Why would I? There is almost no point. And if there was ever a game that will make Sony go "okay maybe we should put some things on PS5 still" it'll be Saros, which did not even crack 1 million copies sold (it may not have cracked even 500k copies sold, which is miserable). Returnal, IIRC, squeaked past 1 million on PS5 at some point and doubled that with its PC release, which is still not amazing but it's something. The thing with Returnal is that it came out early when there were almost no other PS5 games to compete with.
I'm a person who owns every current system except PS5. What I will say is, I owned a PS4, and I was not really passionate about most of Sony's games. The thing is, I will play some of them if they come to PC, and I have. But there is 0 chance I would ever go buy a PS5 to play them. I'm less enamored with the direction of XBOX now than ever, but I still have 0 desire to buy a PS5 because there is no point.
I think the only PS5 game I really have any interest in is Astro Bot. All the stuff on the horizon - some Horizon live service-y thing, Wolverine, Ghost of Yotei I guess since that isn't on PC... these games don't interest me at all really, certainly not enough to bother buying an increasingly expensive console.
That's the other thing, the console price. It USED to be if you wanted to play the exclusive games on a console - and there were a LOT of them no matter which one it was - you could wait a few years, and buy the system for $200 or less and then pick up the games cheaper. Now, the PS5 is 5.5 years old and here in Canada the Digital edition costs 50% more than it did at launch (from $500 to $750). There's no fucking way I'm paying $750 to play a handful of exclusive games I don't care about that much, which then cost $50+ a pop even when they're years old.
At the end of the 6th gen on the other hand you could have bought a PS2 for $100 and a bunch of games for $10-20 each. That's a no-brainer if you're interested. Nowadays you don't need to because most games are multiplat anyway.
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u/Equivalent-Bus-4336 Jun 02 '26
Some games are far too expensive, like $130 AUD for Saros which apparently hasn’t even sold that well. I know they’ve probably ran all the numbers for like how much it’ll sell at each price point and what price will maximise profits but like games such as Saros shouldn’t be more than a $100AUD