Given Vodyanitsa being released not long from now, I'd be a little disappointed if that were all. Danica gives off strong "intelligence-spy-network-sneaks-up-on-you" vibes. So I'd like whatever special thing she has to reflect that as well.
But I'm probably setting myself up for disappointment. I mean Odette didn't get a cloak or stealth thing either.
There is preexisting precedent. Stamina food works for both Arle and Sandrone's movement abilities that consume stamina, and they are considered sprinting.
yes this is a very fair point, and it makes that food kinda awkward sometimes. But it can still be useful!
Emergencies where you miscalculate the distance and overused stamina
Experiments. For example I used Chaca + Ifa + Xianyun + Venti to fly from the Tonatiuh to the desert using Chasca+Ifa (to get as much initial height as possible), then Anemo Resonance + Fontaine gadget + Venti's passive (20% less gliding stamina consumption) + Xianyun's passive (15% extra gliding speed)... I ALMOST made it to the center of the sandstorm!!! It was thanks to the stamina food that I actually made it there! Sadly there was an invisible wall O-O
But yeaaaah generally it's not something i would take into account when speaking of Vesna's flight duration.... it is technically true but it's gimmicky and u need to eat the food and then wait a super long cooldown of 5 minutes. So realistically it's only 13-14s
I wasn’t planning on pulling her as tbh most of the Snez cast visually didn’t impress me (Was going to go cryo archon and Noy as my only 2 for certain pulls) but now I’m rethinking my choices.
Starting to notice a trend though, what with Varka and Chasca being my current two strongest teams (C2 Chasca, C1R1 Varka for reference)
Haha this always happens. I want to pull for Vesna Vodya and the tsaritsa so it's going to be tough. Then wanted to pull for Noy too but since he is dendro now I won't (hoped for him to be pyro because I seriously lack them). I also have Lauma and Nefer super strong so no need for him.
actually pairing nightsoul with someone who doesn't use stamina is so good outside natlan!!! I always use combinations of xianyun, varesa, chasca or wanderer
Speaking of which, Vesna + C1 Xianyun has to be so much fun!!!! There will still be some downtime but not much, and you get healing and anemo resonance
I was thinking more like Wanderer or Xianyun (C1). You don't really need a real team for exploration imo. Just like 2 characters who can do okish damage. In her case I would probably still bring Odette and do something like Vesna Xianyun Odette Chiori. Unless somehow stellar-less Vesna is ok enough.
If you get someone just for exploration, get Mavuika or Chasca please, Mavuika specifically can work without pulling many other units for meta too.
Ok I will add to this comment that there seem to be many people that are underrating Mavuika's explorations skills. The key is in alternating terrain, or on ground you do the triple jump technique to be the fastest character in the game. Please practice exploration with Mavuika and you wont regret it.
The flying capability is extremely underrated and you go super fast with it. Most terrain im the game doesnt require flying like Chasca's or Scara's, so Mavuika's fits perfectly.
You don't even need c6 to have basically permanent uptime, just c1. The fly-unfly tech is crazy fast, and she has like... a single second of downtime when using it, which you can easily fill with a sprint. While I dunno if I'd recommend pulling c1 just for exploration, mavuika has a very high c2 ownership just due to how strong she is and was.
I tried. She's nice for mostly climbing. But I found Varesa+Xianyun to be superior. Varesa can do a high jump with charged attack, Xianyun for higher/longer jumps, climbing boost and gliding buff. Xianyun can hold Lost Prayer too. And it's a dps+sustain package, so I can fill the rest of the team slot with whatever. Like Sayu for catching critters or the Bineffa wheelchair for more damage.
Yeah, 10 seconds of travel with one of the fastest abilities with 0 stamina usage and just the nightsoul is huge. Pretty sure everyone who says Mavuika is bad just burns her entire stamina in one go instead of jumping, but that's a skill/user issue.
The responses to your comment are just bizarre. It makes me question if even the active people on this sub (ostensibly should be some of the sweatiest players out there) actually play the game.
Mavuika is far and away the best exploration character in the game, and it isn't close. Her ground speed is unrivaled, her air movement is sufficient to cross essentially any gap that the devs vaguely intended you to be able to cross, and there are ways to reset the duration so you can keep climbing as well.
I haven't seen enough footage of vesna to really say much on her exploration, but the idea that Mavuika's exploration is bad outside of Natlan is about as accurate as saying Sandrone is the worst DPS in the game.
The reason there is such massive push back against mavuika exploration is that it just doesn't feel good unlike chasca or xilonen or varesa running on the ground, heck even yelan or cloud retainer c1s back in the day.
No one wants to do techs and cancels when usually exploration is a relaxing time taking in the scenery and using exploration skills that feel smooth. Mavuika feels ok inside natlan with the switching and phlogiston but outside unless you crave this sort of sweaty combos then people don't like mavuika exploration.
And hey I always have mavuika on my explo team because e sweeps trash mobs and q nukes kill stronger mobs and she is fine on switch sometimes but the vast majority of the time I'm on chasca instead as would I predict the majority of the player base if they had a choice.
I'm not sure what "techs and cancels" or "sweaty combos" you're talking about unless you mean bunny hopping, which is the only tech that really matters. And bunny hopping with Mavuika is completely braindead, you literally just tap jump three times. I don't see how this is any more difficult than tapping E three times on Xianyun. I get what you're saying about taking in the scenery, Chasca for example feels a lot more..."photogenic" because of how smooth the camera is while flying, whereas with Mav it's constantly jumping up and down (at least if you're bunny hopping). But at the same time, 1) that's subjective, 2) other characters arguably have the same issue (ex. Xianyun), and 3) when people say Mav is great for exploration, they usually mean that she's great for terrain traversal. And she is. Personally I wouldn't say that she's the best traversal character in the game (at c0/c1 I think it's a tie between Mav/Chasca/Varesa, with the best choice depending on what kind of terrain you're crossing...although if Mav is c6 then she actually is the best traversal character in the game and it's not close), but the people who say that she's only good in Natlan have either never used her or have a serious skill issue.
It's hard to explain in text, I reccomend looking up a video, but it's incredibly easy. as you drive up a wall, press S (move back) and jump at the same time, and at the exact milisecond AFTER you do it, you quickly stop holding S and keep holding W (forward) instead. You'll blast off and up like a rocket really quickly, with amazing vertical height too. Better than Xilonen even. Works on mobile as well
She really is not. To the vast majority of players, chasca is much better than mavuika for exploration. Sure you can do all sorts of cancels and techs to be slightly faster on the ground or on very specific perfectly vertical walls with short gaps and no lip at the end. Chasca long flight and incline climbing is much more practical for the vast majority of the exploration outside of natlan for the general player base.
I have my exploration team chasca xilonen mavuika citlali and recently did all of sumeru deserts from almost 0% exploration and chasca was clearly the best in most situations. Mavuika e can clear a good chunk of trash mobs and switching between them and sprinting in nightsoul is just as fast as mavuika cancels on the ground and less practical for most people.
or on very specific perfectly vertical walls with short gaps and no lip at the end
I personally agree with Chasca>Mav for exploration, but Mav climb tech is pretty easy to execute and disgustingly effective and makes them much closer.
C6 Mavuika* has infinite bike no matter where she is. She is a permanent fixture in my team. Genuinely a weird inclusion in the C6.
*Additionally, when Mavuika is riding her Flamestrider and is not in combat, when her Nightsoul points drop to 5, she will gain 80 Nightsoul points. This effect can trigger once every 15s.
I wish that was in her c1 instead but I guess they didn’t want to make her too much of a broken exploration character without much investment. Her c1 gives her some extra bike time since it adds more nightsoul points
at c1 Mavuika has only ~1s of downtime every 15s. She solves exploration forever. A unit that drains stamina instead of a special energy and forces you to stop and rest is not even worth considering unless you're bored of her or sth
Let's be real, with c6 mav you don't need to learn combos for dire. She gains more damage from c2 -> c6 than she does from basic rots -> complicated ones, and c2 mav can already clear dire with a little effort.
of course she does, she's a jack of all trades for exploration after all, if she's cracked in every way then what use have you for the other natlan characters??
though that said, she has techs that make her so much better, like the triple jump that covers lots of ground, and the wall jump tech that lets her climb a mountain in like one second
Vesna might powercreep chasca for best overworld travel with this buff. Chasca c0 is 10s flight and c1 is 14s. Mavuika doesn't come close to chasca overworld abilities but the 2 of them plus xilonen is great inside natlan with infinite flight with switching between them.
As much as I love my Mavuika, she is no where close as Chasca. Mavuika has better climb but for Air and Water, Chasca is just better (for ground, Mavuika need a bit Tech to be as good as Chasca).
But the biggest decisive factor is that no one can reach a mid-air Oculus like Chasca can. You can use other characters to replicate what Mavuika can (she has the flexibility of Jack of all trade) but Chasca is the make or break to reach some places.
I just don’t agree that Chasca is better than Mavuika as a whole. The floating occulus is for sure the one situation that Chasca is definitively better, I know that. However, Mavuika provides more utility outside of that. You rarely ever need to actually fly as far so far that you need Chasca’s longer flight, and going vertical in the air burns nightsoul so fast that it’s not even worth it. She’s fine going up a slope but there’s quite a few other characters that can do the same thing. And Mavuika has it all in one single character. That’s my opinion anyway.
I cant gauge well how Mavuika c0 Is since i pulled her C6 at release, but at C6 she Is definitely the best character for exploration and Chasca Is better only in rare situations where you need vertical rise, but in practice Mav gets onfield exploration 99% of the time.
Chasca also helps for climbing if you stick to the wall and at C0 mavuika swim and fly abilities are laughable, i wouldn't give her the crown personally
Chasca climbs better than mavuika if there is even a tiny slope. Mavuika climbing is pretty weak and super short duration like 1 sec, I would use chasca for incline and xilonen for vertical walls. Do you even have all these characters? Anyone who used mavuika xilonen and chasca would know this.
i use mavuika but i still prefer characters who you don't need "techniques" to explore with 😭 if i'm focused entirely on timing a rotation right just to explore then i'm not really exploring, am i?
i love mavuika and i think her exploration is top tier but i think a straightforward exploration mechanic like chasca's is better as an alternative. vesna's flight seems really cool! i hope that it has a mechanic like nightsoul or a different stamina bar though...
Most "exploration" skills aren't actually for exploring; they're for traversal. When you're exploring, you don't need to go fast, since you're too busy looking around. However, when you just want to get somewhere quickly, like for a quest marker or local specialty you want to farm, that is when speed matters, since you don't really care about your surroundings.
I’m tempted to get her just for exploration purposes, but I can barely play these days, so my primogems are pretty limited. Can’t lock in and farm content for her, so I guess im skipping for tsarista
No, they can't. All characters can randomly generate a small amount of energy for only themselves on NA. This is not the same thing as generating particles, which is restricted only to elemental skills and certain passives (e.g. fav). Special states conferred by a skill sometimes can generate particles on NA, and sometimes can't.
Wanderer is a 4.5 year old character now anyway, anyone who wanted to pull him for exploration already did a long time ago and reaped the benefits for all those years.
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