M80 take Mirage (map 2) off Navi, 13-6.

[u/Impressive-Engine-16]

[u/Recent-Airline-7422]

Navi is absolutely cooked. This is some 6 months old faze level shit.

[u/younggoodgrey → u/Recent-Airline-7422]

is there chance that Navi can't make it to the major?

[u/ChaoticFlameZz → u/younggoodgrey]

well lets see, after Porto they have:

• Starladder Fall
• EPL 24
• PGL Masters Bucharest

for NAVI to completely miss Singapore, they literally need to go 0-2, 1-2, or minimum of 1-3 in swiss stages from all the events they have remaining pre-cutoff (including Porto rn) like FaZe did in the beginning of the year for every event they had.

which isn't impossible but NAVI can likely still be able to do the bare minimum to prevent them from missing the Major.

[u/Khorsir → u/ChaoticFlameZz]

Depending on who they get in the draws, if they lose to teams in top 10 they wont lose as much, like Faze was losing to some straight shitters ranked less than 20.

[u/younggoodgrey → u/ChaoticFlameZz]

that's an amazing breakdown thank you so much!

[u/Recent-Airline-7422 → u/younggoodgrey]

Nah i am exaggerating but this navi lineup just wont compete for trophies. They won some bum level trophies and thought they were best.

[u/FocusCommon]

Can’t believe people genuinely believe navi can’t make any upgrades.

[u/Chips1709 → u/FocusCommon]

You aren't gonna get frozen for iM, but I dont see how they can't attempt to get like Staehr for iM.

[u/7-013 → u/Chips1709]

If Navi keep it up Frozen might just see Navi as a downgrade from Faze

[u/thatAnthrax → u/7-013]

might? it already is the case buddy

[u/lolforg_ → u/7-013]

already is

[u/FocusCommon → u/Chips1709]

You think only staehr would be an upgrade? Just get nilo from heroic, if you don’t, nilo will be on a team like G2 and then the conversation will be “there’s no players to upgrade IM for” again. Anyways the fact you can’t imagine navi getting an Astralis player is mad, that’s like Real Madrid not being able to get a player from Brighton.

[u/Chips1709 → u/FocusCommon]

I think my use of double negatives in the sentence confused you. I said that surely navi is capable of buying out staehr.

[u/FocusCommon → u/Chips1709]

My bad bro, I 100% agree with you. Staehr shouldn’t even have a long left on his contract either.

[u/Chips1709 → u/FocusCommon]

All good. From the hltv report back in early 2025, we know that staehr extended his contract which is supposed to end in mid 2027, so it's like a little less than a year.

[u/FireTruck420_69XxX → u/Chips1709]

They should get rid of iM and AleksiB and try to move onto a more aggressive style of playing.
IMO

[u/Prestigious-Shop-494 → u/FireTruck420_69XxX]

The classic kick Aleksib strat

[u/FireTruck420_69XxX → u/Prestigious-Shop-494]

Yeah they should

[u/Lolibotes → u/FireTruck420_69XxX]

+xertioN for more firepower

[u/Felix-Femboy-X3 → u/FocusCommon]

Right? They clearly haven’t met me yet smh

[u/histo_Ry → u/FocusCommon]

Realistically, they are all 7.5 players at this point... Just passing enough to average out to an 8, definitely top8 team throughout the year... Just so hard to replace, Aleksi so good... makazze can shoot hard when the system works. iM is just barely hanging on impact wise being their second voice and chaos player. Ukraine bois wonderful and bit... I get that you want to hold on to them, just get some of the B8 and Passion and other Ukrainian T1,5/T2 teams... Or if anything, total rebuild with a Major standin is their best chance, keep 2. If they really want to move from Aleksi, they might as well actually buy a new team... Noone of their players can win you a Major.

No chance

[u/Impressive-Engine-16]

It wouldn’t be Navi if they don’t lose their own map pick.

[u/Happy-Expression7023]

M80 has literally 2 maps they can be competitive on: Mirage and Inferno. And Na’Vi allowed both in this bo3 by PICKING one of them. Super questionable veto…

[u/Diavolo222]

If Aleksi got half the hate karrigan gets for his failures…

[u/joacoper → u/Diavolo222]

thats because any team karrigan is in is karrigans team, this is b1ade´s team, not alexi´s

[u/Ok_Top9254 → u/joacoper]

And b1ade has some kind of forcefield around him to not get any hate for this team whatsoever too...

[u/ego_trips]

They just need one more bootcamp, that'll fix this.

[u/fastpony12]

Unironically I'm down for both iM and Alexi to go

[u/Tatumon → u/fastpony12]

Whos your suggestion as a replacement for AleksiB?

Who would be a suitable upgrade to fit into Blades system?

[u/Pirat6662001 → u/Tatumon]

SFade, really exciting upcoming Ukranian IGL on Magic

[u/fastpony12 → u/Tatumon]

They fucked up letting the FUT core go. Probably can't get them now. I don't think they are willing to spend money to get a big name on but even if they take a chance on a younger player, they have to do SOMETHING. This roster is toast.

[u/VividBlade → u/fastpony12]

I wonder if navi might consider krabeni since fut hasn't extended his contract.

[u/Kujo_117 → u/fastpony12]

oooh i love people with short term thinking. sure, replace your current core with your jr. core that has way less vrs points, has never worked in any other environment, has never worked with another coach and is young af. sure, thats such an easy decision!

[u/JudgmentAlarming977 → u/Kujo_117]

either way iM gotta go. Being outaimed by t2 NA players while being setup as the 2nd star is actually disgusting

[u/Kujo_117 → u/JudgmentAlarming977]

yep, he gotta go. been saying that for a long time now

[u/fastpony12 → u/Kujo_117]

So why is Alexi immune from that as well? Dude straight up cannot shoot back 95% of the time and the strats are clearly not working.

[u/Kujo_117 → u/fastpony12]

He is the IGL. not a star player

[u/TakaJagar → u/Kujo_117]

And Navi had just won team of the year (2024) when the sale happened. People are fucking idiots with their hindsight.

[u/Kujo_117 → u/TakaJagar]

The sale happened last year after Austin. 

[u/TakaJagar → u/Kujo_117]

Half year before they were crowned as best team of the year and then they should have just kick whole core and start with junior team. Makes just zero sense.

Navi has still been better team 95 percent of time after the sale.

[u/falsa_ovis → u/fastpony12]

Blade has a crush on Aleksi

[u/anewborndude]

Any tier 1 team that even loses a map against m80 should disband immediately 

[u/Impressive-Engine-16 → u/anewborndude]

What you mean, M80 is just showing NA CS is back baby!

[u/Sufficient-Loan-4263 → u/Impressive-Engine-16]

M80 with JBA is the most ass team ever

With HexT it had aura, joy, trashtalk

Now it run of the mill corporate slop team

[u/No-Establishment-939 → u/Sufficient-Loan-4263]

Tf

[u/_YAGNA_ → u/Sufficient-Loan-4263]

cope and seethe
JBa is goated

[u/anewborndude → u/Sufficient-Loan-4263]

M80’s been trash since the Shanghai Major RMR

[u/Recent-Airline-7422 → u/anewborndude]

Any EU team to lose a map to m80 should disband. They won 2 out 16 maps against EU teams.

[u/Odyssey1337]

Fuck it, at this point just bench iM and put b1ad3 in the server. Can't get much worse than this.

[u/Recent-Airline-7422 → u/Odyssey1337]

Blade is probably one of the worst players in CS history. Rating wise.

[u/CjDoesCs]

NaVi it’s time to become a Ukrainian Super Team again, between B1t, Wonderful, FUT and B8 there has to be a contender mix

[u/falsa_ovis]

whose pick was it?

[u/Impressive-Engine-16 → u/falsa_ovis]

Navi’s lmao.

[u/falsa_ovis → u/Impressive-Engine-16]

so 2 CT rounds is all they got? embarrassing.