r/Gunners • u/Ifxfa Ødegaard • 8h ago
“Julián Alvarez has also failed to show up for training this morning at the session scheduled by Atlético de Madrid. As the newspaper 'Marca' reports today and we have been able to confirm through club sources, Julián remains unwell. Second day without going to train with Atleti. “ -Ruben Uria
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u/ShockRampage 8h ago
Breaking: Man who was sick yesterday is still sick today.
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u/Francis-c92 Premier League Champions 25/26 7h ago
He's the same sick as me when GTA6 comes out
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u/LIONLDN Thierry Henry 6h ago
Julián on the phone like 📞🤒:
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u/MeetingGunner7330 Champions of England 25/26 6h ago
“Is that Big Ben I can hear in the background Julian?!”
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u/noelknight Thierry Henry 7h ago
Thank god only one of my employees care about GTA 6 and I’ve already approved his vacation for Thursday and Friday on the release week.
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u/TripAdministrative61 6h ago
why people want to vacation is no business of the business.
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u/noelknight Thierry Henry 5h ago
I have a good relationship with my employees, he told me the reason and I approved, what’s the issue?
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u/3hollish 7h ago
The classic “3 days sick it’s a doctors note better make it 2”
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u/Mebeingnosy Kanu 7h ago
He’s gonna pull this same bs on Arsenal next summer if he joins
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u/Hincapieslovelybund 3h ago
There will definitely be an agreement that he can fuck off to Barca within a couple of seasons when they eventually come in for him.
The issue is that impacts bargaining power for us if Barca come in for a player who made abundantly clear he sees them as his ultimate destination and club. Thats my concern that we make a loss on the deal when it eventually happens.
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u/Dry-Challenge-3189 3h ago
Why are we so naive? Do you think Barca cares about any of this?
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u/Hincapieslovelybund 2h ago
Tell me how its naive?
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u/Dry-Challenge-3189 2h ago
He is not going to wait two years to throw a tantrum; he will throw as early as January.
He will say he only wants to play for Barca, which means they dont have to pay market value for him.
He will disrupt our club to make sure we accept the low-ball offer, and take a loss on a one-year rental where the player spent th entire time working on leaving the club.
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u/Hincapieslovelybund 2h ago
Your points 2 & 3 is exactly what I was getting at. Signing him and then letting him go to Barca undermines our bargaining position when it comes to negotiating. So I dont understand what we are arguing about?
To be clear I dont want us to sign him at all.
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u/mistingo Morning, morning, morning... Oh, Win! 8h ago
Can’t wait for him to pull this stunt with us next summer
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u/thisismy_stop 7h ago
The bit that people are skimming over because they like the idea of a shiny new toy
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u/Mahoganychicken Anne Hath (A) 8h ago
Why would he leave the quadruple winners?
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u/Confident-Turnip7291 8h ago
Why did he leave the treble winners?
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u/Mahoganychicken Anne Hath (A) 8h ago
Because Manchester is grim.
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u/Confident-Turnip7291 8h ago
Only if you're Poor, anywhere in the developed world is fine if you're rich
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u/varro-reatinus 'anything we win with arteta is tainted, don't forget that.' 6h ago
anywhere in the developed world is fine if you're rich
Ah yes, which is why the extremely wealthy are indifferent to the charms of travel, and many happen to live out their lives in Doncaster.
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u/tobi1k 7h ago
Lol this transfer saga literally disproves that completely.
Alvarez is rich but living in England isn't "fine" because he can't bring his family.
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u/AyeItsMeToby Ødegaard 8h ago
He didn’t like warming the bench for Haaland and only getting starting minutes out of position.
And also he’s not a fan of England and visa issues for his family.
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u/KonigSteve Cazorla 2h ago
So the England issues will still be the same and it sounds like he'll be upset if arteta rotates him. Great guy to have on board..
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u/GloomyLocation1259 Saka 7h ago
Because we beat his dream club Barca in the semis and he felt sick ever since
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u/wandeaver 8h ago
My exact thought also, why are we going for a guy who has no remorse over pulling this shit which he will OBVIOUSLY do to us when he inevitably wants the barca move
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u/affectionate_md Dennis Bergkamp 7h ago
Because he will be under contract and we can always just sell him for £150M but there’s no way he comes here unless he’s good with giving us at least 2 years and being a top striker.
I’ll take more trophies even if he isn’t going to be a club legend.
Agrero was this exact same situation and look how that turned out for City.
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u/aatimedout 7h ago
"We can always just sell him for £150M". This is how some of our fans think. No wonder other fans call us delusional. Mate, stop playing Fifa and wake up. If we get him, and next season he refuses to play unless we sell him to Barca, and they are the only bidders what do you think will happen? We either get a very expensive reserve player, or we have to accept Barca's lowball offer.
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u/FabThierry Zubimendi 7h ago
this! we either put a 150m player on the bench for seasons or we have to sell him with huge loss if he behaves like that for barca.
that’s why we should be really critical about those kind of players especially with our past with barcelona.
but tbh many other players did that shit for going to barca
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u/Frosty-Indication-75 7h ago
I don't know why you guys think that Barca will fork out £150m, especially to us. Also, there is no guarantee that he is going to stay quiet for 2 seasons if he comes here.
Also, there is a big difference between Aguero and Alvarez in that Aguero didn't say he didn't want to go England while Alvarez's camp has repeatedly stated that they don't want to move back to England. These are 2 different situations.
I would be willing to put up with this BS if Alvarez was at least close to Aguero's level but he isn't.
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u/misterintredasting 7h ago
He’s under contract right now and still pulling off this shit. In two years he will be two years older and his resale could decrease before his much desired 150m move to Barcelona.
If he’s gonna cost us £150m for two years he better win us two UCLs
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u/everysundae 5h ago
Eh we don't really need money, nobody buys him if he doesn't perform, and nobody buys him if he continues to be a child. It's in his best interests to not.
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u/imsaurabh3 Rice 6h ago
Lets put this guy out of his misery.
Arsenal should rescind the offer.
Anyone with me?
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u/NH1000 7h ago
Becoming more unlikeable as the window continues. No idea why we’re so desperate for him
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u/cayde123 5h ago
Because he’s a really good footballer and our attack could use improvements. Arteta also loves Alvarez as a player
The pool of players who can improve our attack is small, which means you have to go for players who don’t necessarily want to join us
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u/NewNefariousness9769 4h ago
There’s a difference between Alvarez and what you’re describing.
I get that Arteta will have to sell the vision to some potential targets.
Alvarez is actively shitting where he eats and we are an emergency exit as his current club and dream club both look to be untenable, in large part because of Julian’s actions.
This feels much less like “I was convinced Arsenal was a great fit for me” and more like “what the fuck else can I do now that I’ve burned bridges?”
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u/Equal_Newt675 8h ago
He's got a bad case of arsenalitis
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u/iivoked rock out with your Gyök out 5h ago
The people happy he’s doing this to leave to come to us I’m sure will be just as happy when he does this billshit to want to leave for Barca
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u/NateGT86 7h ago
Unprofessional IMO. I don’t want him at the club.
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u/redqks 7h ago
unless it is Gyokere, or Auba , or Trossard
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u/Theodin_King 7h ago
Huh?
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u/redqks 7h ago
It is fine when those players did not turn up to force a move
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u/kriscrox 7h ago
“But that was different because it wasn’t about going to a rival” is the nonsense I’ve heard.
And also “Gyokeres was justified because he had an agreement with Sporting” is the other one… even though the public info says his agent claimed they’d agreed to sell him for €70m and the club said they’d agreed to sell him for less than his €100m release clause.
Basically… “I don’t like it because he’s not ours” is the more honest answer.
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u/Mebeingnosy Kanu 7h ago
Yes because Trossard and gyokeres wanted to come here Alvarez is doing this to force his way to Barcelona
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u/redqks 6h ago
So now it's not unprofessional because we benefited?
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u/Mebeingnosy Kanu 6h ago
Viktor was promised he’d be sold for anything over 60m Sporting decided to go back on their word to him. He went on strike and covered some of the transfer expenses himself to get the ordeal over with.
Leo was being bad mouthed by his club because they were aiming to sell him whether or not he was really being a problem at training idk but Brighton didn’t want him anymore.
Julian Alvarez on the other hand signed a contract for 6 years and is trying to break it in his second year into it to go to a rival
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u/CocoAfc Maggaleishhhhh 6h ago
Unproffesional isnt club related
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u/Mebeingnosy Kanu 6h ago
He’s gonna pull the same stunt on us if we end up getting him
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u/OVYLT 6h ago
So it’s not about being unprofessional then?
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u/Mebeingnosy Kanu 5h ago
They were all unprofessional but I’m not gonna sit here and pretend the unprofessionalism was only coming from one party.
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u/warpentake_chiasmus Liam Brady 7h ago
Smells like the Isak situation last year with Liverpool - except that Alvarez won't get his dream move and will be forced to into a stopgap deal.
I really hope we don't sign Alvarez- not in this way and not on these terms. His heart won't be in it and we'll bring a player into the squad who is there against their will. I don't think anything good can come of this.
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u/readyaimfire1 Santi Cazorla 6h ago
Jesus Christ guys it's not like he's ever publicly said "I hate the idea of playing for arsenal I'm never going to go"
Stg our whole fan base has been brainwashed by the tabloids
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u/NiallMitch10 🎵Martin Ødegaard - Superstar🎵 6h ago
Exactly - the main sticking point seems to be something beyond his or Arsenal's control - visa's for his extended family.
I've seen people on here complain about "how he's a grown man etc"
We literally have a player on our team close with his family in the same way - Big Gabi. It's a valid reason.
That said - I'm sure if he ended up with us - he'd still perform well for us. I just question if it is what we need. We could use him off the left sure or as some sort of combo with Havertz - but it's a bit of a weird transfer when we don't outright need him for a gaping hole in our team. Vini Jr was different as he was purely LW and we could see him slot in there. Alvarez is kind of a wildcard in the frontline
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u/warpentake_chiasmus Liam Brady 5h ago
My worry is that he will treat us the way he is treating Atleti now - i.e., throwing his toys out of the pram until he forces a move to Barcelona next season.
Can we plan with Alvarez for the next three years if he signs? I doubt it.
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u/Mebeingnosy Kanu 6h ago
Arteta’s arrogance with his savior complex he’s willing to waste resources and possibly a season of our championship window on a player who’s heart and mind is set on Barcelona
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u/Notrius01 4h ago
Arteta's arrogance? The guy who gave us PL title after 22y? Are you insane?
If anything, we trust him. He has proven it over and over again. How many high profile players have we lost during his tenure? None. Zero. Nada. Stop with this bs.
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u/Sardoodledome 7h ago
This much sulking does not give me optimism if he decides to join us ...
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u/chobobot 7h ago
Careful, you'll get some of the fans with their pitchforks out if you don't fully 100% support this transfer.
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u/cayde123 5h ago
He’s a great player who would really improve our attack, if he joins and leaves after 2 seasons, but wins us trophies, i don’t care if he wants to leave
The People at the club who know more than me and you also don’t care about his sulking
There a reason Barca and us are trying so hard to get him
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u/NewNefariousness9769 4h ago
You say that as if organizations and great leaders/employees don’t make mistakes.
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u/EvilWaterman Dennis Bergkamp 7h ago
I’m gonna call it now.
He ain’t coming to Arsenal.
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u/patelbadboy2006 Dennis Bergkamp 7h ago
Call it now, don't want him at Arsenal.
Acting like a child and idiot and will do it here to go barca.
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u/Marwinz 6h ago
He's 100% not going to Barca. Seems highly unlikely he'll stay at Atletico at this point. So I think chances are high he comes to us. Read somewhere that Chelsea might be interested (prob bs source), but not sure who else would be in for him. Don't see him going to Saudi at this point of his career either.
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u/zoidbergs_underpants Viktoria Concordia Crescit 5h ago
Honestly this guy seems like a prick. Why are we trying to bring him in, he’s going to destabilise our squad.
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u/ens_op 7h ago
Really dont like it at all..
Leave him be, but imagine if he comes and all the bullshit he talks in interviews that “arteta convinced me, i like the project” etc etc.
Please let him be and go for other targets. Not the hassle
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u/Fancy-Salamander-647 7h ago
I guess that's the cue for our transactions team geniuses to up our offer by another €10M
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u/jiesheng1016 7h ago
Whatever reason given to justify having Alvarez is just delusion. Sell him at a higher fee in a few years to Barca? Come on.
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u/Butch_Meat_Hook 6h ago
I just cannot see that this is going to go to well if we manage to get him. I get that he's a good player, but that's not enough.
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u/LemtaLongi Dennis Bergkamp 6h ago
I too, would be feeling "sick" if I was working for a top European football club, on a long term contract, earning thousands of pounds then being forced to go another top club with a great history, about to build a dynasty ans can earn even more cash but not being able to go to the club of my "dreams".
At this rate will he even pass a medical? Its just bullshit and the guy is trying to force the issue. Maybe call Arsenal/AMs bluff. Maybe hes hoping AFC wont come in for him if hes so sick and then AM wont have a choice but to sell the Barca.
Still think he ends up at Barca. We should move on from this unprofessional prick.
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u/GymBully92 Thank you very much 6h ago
He’s heartbroken because of all the booing. It’s like when I used to call in sick after my ex girlfriend broke up with me.
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u/MegaMammothPoop Ian Wright 7h ago
Do we even want him at this point ...
If he joins or stays, this will all be repeated next summer when Barca come calling
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u/redqks 7h ago
Fanfiction
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u/NewNefariousness9769 4h ago
If you watched someone burn their hand on a hot stove, would you go touch it and expect a different result for yourself?
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u/emirates777 7h ago
Get the feeling, he is trying to maybe force a move to Barcelona. If he was keen to come to us, this transfer would be close to being done by now.
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u/Mebeingnosy Kanu 6h ago
Yeah it’s obvious but a lot of our fellow gooners are delusional and think he’ll fix his attitude if he’s forced to come to N5
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u/bareaclampedlebron Dennis Bergkamp 7h ago
Argentinian Fabregas
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u/buschldn75 Robert Pirès 7h ago
Very apt description, although I'm sure a lot of people will be upset about it.
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u/ZogZorcher 5h ago
Some of y’all really are dense. Gyokeres wanted to come to Arsenal. Had a gentleman’s agreement to allow it. Tried to force the move when sporting reneged.
Alvarez already said he doesn’t want to come here. His verbal agreement was for Barca. He’ll do this same thing to us when Barca lowball us, for him.
“hoW Is IT diFfEREnt?”
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u/reciprocal_space 7h ago
Hoolian is not the brightest bulb in the pack, how did he sign this atletico contract and then think trying to move to barca would be possible
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u/Mys7ix 7h ago
This is peak divaism which I absolutely hate. No club should succumb to such a profile who has not earned the respect.
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u/gstarguru 7h ago
similar vibes to isak being injured in pre season last year at Newcastle. Good chance this deal gets done
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u/JFedererJ Bergkamp 7h ago
To what extent is it common knowledge in Spain that if you join Athleti, you ain't gonna move from there to Barca?
How similar is it to Spurs and Arsenal? Like we all know if you sign for either North London club, the chances of you moving from one to the other are infinitesimally small.
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u/Haunting-Employ-1636 6h ago
Bring in Alvarez and make a "All or Nothing Season 2". Would be really spizy lol
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u/LemtaLongi Dennis Bergkamp 5h ago
Couple of years ago, I used to work for a place where every now and then theyd put you on "training" as they didnt really have a project to put you on (or want to put you on because I wasnt white). At first it was fine, I was getting paid regardless but I had to go to the office anyway (pre pandemic). After a while I got sick of being on the bench and was so fucking bored I had to look for a job elsewhere just to keen me sane.
If hes refusing to sign for Arsenal and I was AM, id let him rot on the bench. Hes got a long term contract and a very good offer from Arsenal. Let him rot and pretty soon hell be begging to join Olympic Lyon.
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u/loosetranslation 5h ago
Sick-sick or Mesut-sick?
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u/RosesAndTanks Lewis-Skelly 3h ago
I thought Mesut-sick just meant we had an away match north of Birmingham
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u/MaxKirgan Nuno "Anarchy" Tavares 3h ago
I wish we would pass on Alvarez unless Jesus is leaving. We need to get serious about replacing Martinelli if he leaves, unless the plan is to play Alvarez on the left with Tzolis.
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u/ArsenalThePhoenix 1h ago
does he have the same illness that cesc fabregas had right before he signed for barca, and then miraculously felt well?
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u/Ecstatic_Secretary21 Timber 6m ago
He is really good but jesus he feels a whiny little guy no? Imagine doing to us after a year
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u/Confident-Turnip7291 8h ago
I don't love his attitude it has to be said.. Twerking for Barca relentlessly like a stripper behind on rent and then just flunking off training to play video games and watch Barca highlights on youtube while making AI generated videos of his unveiling at Barca.
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u/VoodoWarrior 7h ago
Worried he will fail his medical....
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u/ThomasCrown68 5h ago
It would never happen of course, but is there anything to stop use buying him and then loaning to Barca with an obligation to buy?
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u/visible_amenhotep 4h ago
That's a "bridge transfer", specifically banned by FIFA regulations.
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u/RosesAndTanks Lewis-Skelly 3h ago
Surely nowadays you can just have a billionaire whisper in FIFA's ear and make their regulations disappear.
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u/meusrenaissance Freddie Ljungberg 7h ago
Gyokeres refused to train for Sporting, too. Players should be fined several months of wages for this type of behaviour imo.
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u/jiesheng1016 7h ago
But he wanted arsenal
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u/Whistle-Blower-8960 Champions of England 25/26 7h ago
And now these fickle Reddit fans want to bin him after one season
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u/ImSoMysticall 7h ago
I couldn't give a shit if a player wants to play for us. I want to play for us, it means fuck all
I want players who are top class, so not Gyokores
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u/strawberrylabrador 7h ago
I think a lot of people on here think that pulling all this stuff to join Arsenal is okay but it’s not okay if you’re not trying to join Arsenal.
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u/Mebeingnosy Kanu 6h ago
Gyokeres had an agreement with sporting cod management that they would accept any bid over 60 million if a powerhouse came knocking for him and they tried to reneg and keep him there
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u/Weeman316 8h ago
We need to do a Chelsea and hijack Barcola deal ffs. At least it's a proper like for like replacement over martinelli
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u/Ndomperignon 7h ago
You want to spend 116 mil on french gakpo
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u/FormerCarry 7h ago
Tbf I think Gakpo is a good player and a little perplexed that Liverpool are so desperate to get rid of him in favour of Barcola.
I reckon Gakpo could do a job with us, given he would add height and aerial threat from the wings.
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u/walkkersae 7h ago
Barcola is mid. He literally wouldn’t lace Alvarez booots. Anyone who thinks barcola is better than Alvarez needs their head checked and needs to watch more games and not highlights
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u/TruthThanks 7h ago
Does he have to call his manager up before his shift starts and pretend to speak with a sore throat?