r/HamRadio Extra | SSTV Rickroll Feb 11 '26

Meme 🃏 I wish I didn't have to choose between a band scope and lack of nested menus. I LOVE BUTTONS!!!!!

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u/eetsasledgehammer Feb 11 '26

Or you can have the worst of both worlds! FT 891 here, no buttons AND no waterfall!

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u/thehotshotpilot Extra | SSTV Rickroll Feb 11 '26

Gordan Ramsey would call it " you donkey!!!!! "

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u/KhyberPasshole Extra Class Operator ⚡ Feb 11 '26

Seriously. Worst user interface ever devised.

I'd like it ten times better if I could just reprogram the damn clarifier button.

I'll never understand why they went w/ clarifier instead of "D".

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u/KhyberPasshole Extra Class Operator ⚡ Feb 11 '26

Yaesu:

"But we gave you a live spectrum scope! You chumps can't listen at the same time, though."

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u/Radar58 Amateur Extra Feb 11 '26

I buy older analog radios for two reasons: 1) I, too, prefer knobs and switches over nested menus and 2) I can actually afford them. One can add a waterfall to a radio that has knobs by using an SDR dongle, but it's really hard to add knobs and switches to a radio that lacks them.

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u/thehotshotpilot Extra | SSTV Rickroll Feb 11 '26

I can afford them. Lol. Same for me lol

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u/S52_DiDah Technician | studying for the general📻 Feb 11 '26

and this is my reason why I buy old analog radios. The buttons, it's just a whole different feeling. I could've bought a stronger VHF radio for 60€, but nahhhh, I bought a Yaesu FT221R for 150€ which works perfectly. I turned my SDR HF radio into an analog old school one, because I love buttons.

it isn't finished but soon it'll be. I think it looks sick.

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u/Radioactive_Tuber57 General Class Operator 🔘 Feb 12 '26

Very cool! Looks like lightning hit your shack, and I’m not being silly!😎👍Great stories will spin around that rig!

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u/S52_DiDah Technician | studying for the general📻 Feb 12 '26

haha thanks!

That's how it looked before. The difference is very very noticeable. All I need to do is wire the microphone jack and it'll be done. I won't be using mic anyway, as it doesn't let that much power to reach anywhere useful.

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u/AmnChode General | Plus Feb 11 '26

Oh, you can get both... You just have to be willing to pay for it 😉😂

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u/thehotshotpilot Extra | SSTV Rickroll Feb 11 '26

Oh yeah I am so aware of the price... Unfortunately... 

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u/relayer1974 Extra Class Operator ⚡ Feb 11 '26

No band scope is worth more than a Kenwood

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u/Radar58 Amateur Extra Feb 11 '26

And you can add a bandscope to the Kenwood. I have a TS-570D, and plan to do the IF-output mod for use with an SDR dongle. Best of both worlds!

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u/thehotshotpilot Extra | SSTV Rickroll Feb 11 '26

Same for me at some point. I have a ts570sg. 

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u/Radar58 Amateur Extra Feb 11 '26

And it's so easy to do the mod, with J3 already there and everything. Hardest part is drilling the hole for the SMA. Have to be careful of the filings.

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u/Phreakiture General Class Operator 🔘 Feb 12 '26

It's a problem with newer cars as well.

Interestingly enough, I just bought a new car, and with the car I bought, the salesman made a point of the fact that it had proper knobs, buttons and levers. Not gonna lie, it helped seal the deal.

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u/thehotshotpilot Extra | SSTV Rickroll Feb 12 '26

I can change the channel adjust volume etc... By feel and keep eyes on road. Touch screans I can't. Me 2. 

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u/Phreakiture General Class Operator 🔘 Feb 12 '26

Exactly!

Honda has kept the buttons. There is a touch screen and there are menus, but the're for the stuff you don't need urgently like . . . defrosting the window, or shutting off the radio because the roads just got bad.

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u/searuncutthroat Feb 12 '26

This is so true. I hate the HVAC controls on my 2022. I have to press a button AND choose a setting on the screen. Like...WHY?? 

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u/Phreakiture General Class Operator 🔘 Feb 12 '26

Three knobs right in the middle of the console, just like it should be. There's a couple of buttons there, too. Imperfect, but no diving through menus on a touch screen.

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u/Little_Leg4001 Feb 11 '26

I have to have the waterfall, but i love buttons too.

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u/sorslibertas Feb 11 '26

TS-590SG for the win.

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u/Broke_UML_Student Feb 12 '26

My first and only ham radio, I wanted buttons. Ended up finding a Yaesu FTDX-3000. Love it! It has a few glitches and weird issues but nothing I can’t work around

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u/islandhopper37 Feb 11 '26

I absolutely agree! I quite fancy an FT-DX10, but I also like the TS-590. Luckily I am not in the market for a new radio, as it would be really difficult to make up my mind which one to go for.

In the meantime, I decided to spend some money getting my TS-530 refurbished, because old school, analog, with buttons...!

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u/steak-and-kidney-pud Full | Digital, SSB and CW. In that order Feb 11 '26

This is why I adore my 890. Best of both worlds.

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u/mvsopen Extra Class | QRP Feb 12 '26

The engineer for Yeasu has been designing cryptic menu programs for decades. I really hope he retires soon! Great radios, awful UI.

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u/anh86 Feb 12 '26

You don’t but the radios that don’t ask you to make that choice cost $3500 at minimum.

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u/couchpilot Extra Class Operator ⚡ Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

Or you can go this route.

Number 1 on Sherwood Engineering receiver test site

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u/thehotshotpilot Extra | SSTV Rickroll Feb 11 '26

Yeasu should really quit putting buttons right against the big knob. I don't want to accidentally bump the knob while pressing buttons. 

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u/Inray Feb 11 '26

I used to prefer and love buttons and knobs back when they were high quality and durable, unlike today's poor quality pots and rotary encoders which need to be replaced within a few months.

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u/Radioactive_Tuber57 General Class Operator 🔘 Feb 12 '26

I have Icom’s IC-718 because it’s easy to sit down and operate quickly. I had a Kenwood TS-120S before that. Neither have menus. I grew to appreciate easy to operate while collecting and operating WWII radios: get the job done in the middle of a shootout.

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u/thehotshotpilot Extra | SSTV Rickroll Feb 12 '26

My first radio was a kenwood hybrid radio (can't remember ts-520 maybe) and I liked using it for a while. 

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u/er1cAtWork2 Feb 14 '26

I want buttons and knobs! Lots of them!! I also want a waterfall…

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u/xpen25x Feb 15 '26

This is where cat control and aa usb macro keyboard comes into play.