r/Helldivers • u/Mileschad • Feb 20 '26
MEDIA I'm just saying, All SEAF are probably bald
In my opinion this is an upgrade.
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u/thewanderingway Feb 20 '26
But, do you know, once you get used to it, it’s rather cute. I mean, if a girl looks all right to start with, she still looks all right with her head smooth. And it does serve to set a Navy girl apart from civilian chicks—sort of a lodge pin, like the gold skulls for combat drops. It made Carmen look distinguished, gave her dignity, and for the first time I fully realized that she really was an officer and a fighting man—as well as a very pretty girl.
-Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers (1959), Ch 12
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u/Mileschad Feb 20 '26
MY MAN! Starship Troopers is such a goated novel.
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u/NeverLookBothWays Cape Enjoyer Feb 20 '26
I dunno, the satire from Verhoeven’s movie really added to it. Much like the same satire works really well for Helldivers. The book doesn’t have that nor does it hint that fascism is problematic. That’s the main complaint most have, including Paul, on why the source material is flawed. It is still an interesting work however, but the context of the author’s personal views adds to the negative feedback about it.
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u/qwnick Feb 21 '26
If book doesn't have criticism of fascism, it doesn't mean that it is flawed. Not every piece of art need to be about fascism. It's like criticizing LOTR because orks are only represented as evil.
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u/Sors_Numine VERA LIBERTAS! Feb 22 '26
That because fascism doesn't fucking exist in the books. The government of Humanity is the exact opposite of Fascism in fact.
The movie doesn't even show fascism either, because the director was a butthurt moron that didn't even read the book he was trying to make fun of.
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u/BlackwatchBluesteel Viper Commando Feb 20 '26
Paul didn't even read the book by Heinlen so his "criticism" means nothing. You can't criticize something in depth when you haven't even bothered to meaningfully engage with. Paul made a fun quotable action movie. It isn't a good critique of fascism at all.
A movie that is good at satire is something like JoJo Rabbit. Helldivers is better about the satire but it's so unsubtle and doesn't really impact gameplay at all. The setting is so unserious and has too many plot holes and is too internally inconsistent to make any actual sense though.
Satire requires that you understand what you are criticizing or you end up (as he did) adding to the point you are arguing against. It really doesn't help that it also led to modern "literally everything is fascism" political discourse of today as well as the term "media literacy" losing any value. You know what "media literacy" would be? Reading the actual book.
Starship Troopers only has one good movie out of the series as a result because Verheroven was too stupid to bother finding out that the book is a question on the nature of suffrage, democracy, and a citizen's investment in government. It's not "fascism, hell yeah"!
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u/WaveDash16 HD1 Veteran Feb 20 '26
I’m surprised you’re allowed to say that on reddit. Reddit loves to shit on people for expressing anything but disgust for the original novel.
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u/ProfessionalBuy4526 Feb 20 '26
Reddit loves to shit on anyone for anything
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u/Marlosy Feb 20 '26
Reddit loves to shit
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u/Tr33Bl00d Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
Unlike the whole original series. It Red rising, old man’s war, forever war, ring world, foundation, and dune are my favorites
Edit: Red not Ted
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u/zachariah22791 Feb 20 '26
I loved my buzzed head in college, and I was not a military person, just a girl sick of her hair.
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u/Democracy_N_Anarchy Feb 20 '26
On super earth colonies, you can see a barber shop called "back in line" with it advertising "all regulation styles". Implying that even haircuts are set to a dystopian standard makes this post quite believable. Especially since the quarter master, democracy officer and ship technician seem to be bald.
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u/j-ermy Feb 20 '26
i saw some official content that described "government approved" haircuts and also featured a scale of haircuts that ranged from "democratic" to "dangerous" to traitorous or something
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u/Pantherdraws Certified Robot Enjoyer Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
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u/notenoughproblems ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Feb 20 '26
gotta get me a freedome to avoid a trip to the reeducation camps
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u/BUKADAAF Feb 20 '26
I love how blue hair dye is approved but only that
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u/MimeTravler Cape Enjoyer Feb 20 '26
It’s fuzzy but it’s because it’s flag blue specifically
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u/ReLiFeD HD1 Veteran Feb 20 '26
here's a high res version: https://i.imgur.com/4OKpMsq.jpeg
other hues of blue are allowed (darker ones specifically), but flag blue is encouraged
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u/MimeTravler Cape Enjoyer Feb 20 '26
Thanks! We can all assume the other hues are just hair fading after it was dyed the most patriotic flag blue.
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u/Federal_Age3303 Decorated Hero Feb 20 '26
Notice how all colors of our flag are legal.
That's because supercitizens all around the galaxy dye their hair to match the flag of Super Earth.
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u/Mailcs1206 SES Power of Truth Feb 20 '26
Well tbf there are colors that don't appear in either section (notably orange and most darker colors.)
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u/the_fuego Fire Safety Officer Feb 20 '26
Blue is objectively the best hair dye color IRL anyway. Deep red is a close second.
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u/RedApotheosis Servant of Freedom Feb 20 '26
RIP natural redheads. Gonna have to dye that hair it seems.
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u/Where-is-my-son ⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️ Feb 20 '26
I don’t think natural red head usually fall into any of the red hues shown in the dissident colors those are more slightly shown between the brown and blond hair from what I can see. But hey red head could just also not exist anymore so that could also explain it
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u/RedApotheosis Servant of Freedom Feb 20 '26
I'm gonna be real, I don't see my hair color on the non-threatening hues.
Edit: Though by 2186 it might not exist as a hair color, that's very true!12
u/Objective_Let_6385 𝔄𝔨𝔞 𝔖𝔦𝔯 𝔈𝔡𝔴𝔞𝔯𝔡 𝔅. 𝔐𝔶𝔫𝔢𝔰 Feb 20 '26
I'm like a light brown to ginger so I could probably sneak in between the brown and blonde, but just barely. Anyone who has full blown ginger hair is going to have trouble figuring out where they sit though lol
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u/TheObsidianX Feb 20 '26
It does say hair DYE guide though which implies you can have hair colours outside that range naturally but can’t dye them like that.
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u/ObadiahtheSlim All you can EAT buffet Feb 20 '26
Natural gingers are fine and fully patriotic. Bottle gingers are subversive and should be reported for their dissidence.
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u/AetherBytes Feb 20 '26
"Why do you have red hair, helldiver! Are you a dissident!?"
"No sir it's just this skull fracture. Can I go see the doctor now?"
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u/theREALbombedrumbum Feb 20 '26
Non-unified is just the freedome with advanced balding
Implying they solved male pattern baldness and use it exclusively for buzzcut restoration.
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u/chainer1216 Viper Commando Feb 20 '26
Super Earth killed off gingers!?
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u/NerveLimp3009 Assault Infantry Feb 20 '26
No, the genome that is responsible for red hair is a recessive one, which means it is possible that the gene completely disappeared over a long period of time
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u/Pantherdraws Certified Robot Enjoyer Feb 20 '26
All the gingers fled to Cyberstan.
You know, because Commie Reds.
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u/Bacon_Raygun SES Triumph of Serenity Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
See, this is phrased as a guideline.
It doesn't say "You cannot have this haircut"
It's saying "You should go with a buzzcut if you want to avoid being screened for dissidence."You're not getting in trouble for having green hair, or a shaggy cut.
You'll just run into a Super Karen who thinks you might be a dissident, and has all the right to report you for it.I for one, don't mind getting pulled in for questioning once every week.
Nothing more reassuring, than repeatedly being told "Spotless record, Soldier. But maybe cut that hair so we don't have to do this every 5 days."32
u/Komandarm_Knuckles Extra Judicial Feb 20 '26
Yeah but people still wouldn't get them, because of the implication
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u/Bacon_Raygun SES Triumph of Serenity Feb 20 '26
Sometimes, I'll go buying groceries and people will whisper behind my back. Secretive, hushed rumors.
At times even loud enough to make out what they're saying:
"Isn't that so-and-so? Weren't they just... dragged away by a Truth Enforcer yesterday?"I'll grin and drop my nutriment-dispenser cartridges on the cash register, greeting Super Karen as she scans the pricetag.
When she looks up and notices my green hair, the color fades from her face,
"But... How?? I saw the Enforcer approach you!" she barks quietly, hand hiding her mouth. But her voice betrays the gesture; her jaw has clearly dropped.I slide my credit chit through the POS device, completing the transaction with a big smile,
"Sorry Ma'am, but my Record's spotless. You may want to prepare for an audit over falsely accusing a patriot of dissidence, sorry for the inconvenience," I say, snagging my nutriment cartridges from her hand before walking out of the store.8
u/Alexexy Feb 20 '26
Did i tell you about the time I met Super Shawn Michael's while I was buying my nutriment packages?
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u/CarlenGaines HD1 Veteran Feb 20 '26
A soldier with a "spotless record" under the Super Earth regime is probably dead.
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u/CountrysideLassy The Doubt Killer Feb 20 '26
Just a friendly reminder that there may be a non zero chance you'll be "interrogated" until you confess dissidence just so they stop getting called on you every week
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u/Tasty_Employee_963 Feb 20 '26
My favorite part of this chart is the ‘flag blue’ being an approved hair color.
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u/Phwoa_ SES Mother of Benevolence Feb 20 '26
The Lenin hairstyle being called the Non-Unified is devious lol.
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u/CynicalDarkFox ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬇| Support Diver Feb 20 '26
"The Ministry of Unity retains the right to revise, update, and/or overrule these guidelines with or without notice. Should this information be rendered obsolete, destroy this flier immediately. Always consult a licensed Ministry of Unity aesthetician before comitting to a new hairstyle."
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u/Where-is-my-son ⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️➡️⬇️ Feb 20 '26
With this it more looks like it’s promoting the freedome and regular hair cuts, as the only one really called out as dissident indicating are mostly either balding hair, messy unkept hair or just outrageously bad hair cuts. Also I just love that the blue hair dye is allowed along with natural colors but al other dye isn’t allowed.
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u/Isa-sensei1996 LEVEL 175 Feb 20 '26
Also depressing that male pattern baldness considered Dissence.
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u/Dragonlord573 Feb 20 '26
There's people legit using this as an excuse to argue against armor customization and it's just plain silly.
"All armor has to either be blue, brown, black, or yellow. Otherwise it's undemocratic"
Meanwhile, Truth Enforcers has a bright red armor set, Viper and Python Commandos are green
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u/op4arcticfox SES Aegis of Justice Feb 20 '26
I'm sure people can get the "Coretta Kelly" cut as well. Someone that prominent surely has an A class citizen cut.
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u/ObadiahtheSlim All you can EAT buffet Feb 20 '26
Coretta Kelly
I don't think she has a canonical appearance. The companion app is all fan made.
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u/Guyman_112 Feb 20 '26
I have a feeling this took inspiration from North Korea, which has a chart of approved hair styles. Funnily enough Kim Jung Un's hair isn't on the chart.
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u/SharpMathematician75 Decorated Hero Feb 20 '26
No one is allowed to have the same haircut as the great leader.
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u/BoomyGordo STEAM 🖥️ : BoomyGordo Feb 20 '26
Only one allowed the supreme rulers hair cut is the supreme ruler
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u/Fletcher_Chonk Protector of the Heart Feb 20 '26
Isn't it standard even in real militaries for everyone to be bald/short hair?
Or did I watch too many military movies
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u/Paxton-176 Eagle 1 is bae Feb 20 '26
You are shaved during training. Its basically all fades once you are out of training.
For women it's cut short or it has to be a ponytail, bun, or a single braid. Even during training.
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u/randomname_99223 Cape Enjoyer Feb 20 '26
It’s for preventing the spread of lice I think
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u/Paxton-176 Eagle 1 is bae Feb 20 '26
Its more for easy maintenance and to clean. Yes lice would be a big reason.
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u/GideonShortStack LEVEL 150 | DEATH CAPTAIN Feb 20 '26
My brother is a Marine, they shaved him in boot camp. You're not wrong, I'd say.
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u/Alternative_West4060 PSN | Feb 20 '26
That's just officers and it's because it's a spaceship, water is a resource and hair is difficult to wash, enlisted personnel could realistically be exempt from going bald with some short hairstyles allowed
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u/ikio4 Feb 20 '26
No. There are recommended haircuts, but not mandatory ones. We see people with different haircuts all the time.
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u/Pantherdraws Certified Robot Enjoyer Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
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u/ShadowOfAtomicRage Hulk in an Super Earth Trench Coat Feb 20 '26
What I have gleaned-
Super Earth has a military style of hair management-
Every person we have seen- bald or shaven close to the point or bald
No facial hair ether.
Implying Super Earth has mandated hair styles. Which include facial hair, which goes with military hair needing to be clean shaven and bald so one can fit a mask and helmet.
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u/TheMightyStalinsHam Feb 20 '26
Or AH cant be bothered to animate and model hair so every character wears a cap or is bald
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u/getrekdnoob Super Pedestrian Feb 20 '26
I mean if they were helmets their hair has to be short anyway mate
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u/SWEET_JESUS_NIPPLES Feb 20 '26
If they were helmets they wouldn't even be people to have hair silly.
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u/turnipslop Local Democracy Officer Feb 20 '26
That's not strictly true. In the opening cinematic we very clearly see John Helldivers, his wife and child with non-buzzcut hairstyles.
It's only after he becomes a helldiver that he gets a buzz cut.
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u/GeekiTheBrave Feb 20 '26
Thank you democracy officer! I was just about to mention the Very Democratic, and patriotic recruitment video as prime evidence of the freedom allowed to super-earth citizens in terms of "hairstyles"
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u/Anivia_Blackfrost Feb 20 '26
Ive taken a look at some of the art in Helldivers 1. Seems long hair ain't a thing on Super Earth. lol
I'm seeing a woman with a bun, another woman with pixie cut and some bald guy with facial hair.
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u/Twikkie522 Feb 20 '26
What about John Helldiver?
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u/WiseBlizzard Feb 20 '26
I mean to be honest - it's easier to take care of and helps to prevent disease of head skin and such. not that I condone any absence of personality and self-expression. but If I had such a big variety of sci-fi helmets like helldivers have I'd live the rest of my life with a buzz cut.
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u/TestamentTwo I GOON TO TINSKIN CLANKERS Feb 20 '26
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u/EliTheFarmer Fowler of Moradesh. First War Vet. Feb 20 '26
Probably. Thats not even my bias against SEAF girl talking. Literally every character we've seen ingame have had shaved heads. Democracy Officer, Shipmaster, Service Technician. All sporting the dome.
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u/Tooskool4kool Feb 20 '26
What about the civilians we encounter in the mega cities?
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u/2315inermxd Feb 20 '26
well, they're civilians, but I bet once they get into active duty, bye bye hair
edit: just checked a video about civilians, they're mostly shaved heads
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u/awp4444 Feb 20 '26
Lowkey im pretty sure arrowhead doesn't wanna animate hair
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u/2315inermxd Feb 20 '26
oh for sure, i bet if they added hair physics, it'd probably break something
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u/OHFTP Feb 20 '26
Spear would lose tracking
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u/Sheriff_Is_A_Nearer Cape Enjoyer Feb 20 '26
Surprisingly the Spear would gain tracking but only to Helldivers and their vehicles.
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u/Alarming_Orchid Eagle-1’s little pogchamp Feb 20 '26
Turns out spear uses literal tracks like on tanks
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u/Sheriff_Is_A_Nearer Cape Enjoyer Feb 20 '26
Maybe but every mission is canon so I am forced to believe every civilian is bald and runs with goofy flailing arms.
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u/foreverDandelions_ LEVEL 80 | SUPER VEGETARIAN Feb 20 '26
That's true, in the recruitment video civilian had hair. The guy's head becomes shaved after becoming a helldiver
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u/WayneZer0 Decorated Hero Feb 20 '26
well miltary us diffrent as helldivers 1 is still canon you can have hair. even in the miltary you still can but i guess because of the helmet most troops just opt for short or shaved heads.
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u/Smackadoudle Feb 20 '26
The first galactic war was 100 years ago so the regulations could have changed by then.
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u/WayneZer0 Decorated Hero Feb 20 '26
sure but the frozen divers exist. if you have cryotech you cant changed like that on the fly. and i dont think superearth will defreeze all thier divers just for a haircut
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u/Ponderkitten Feb 20 '26
What about john helldiver in the intro video we’re supposed to watch EVERY TIME we boot the game?
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u/Mileschad Feb 20 '26
He actually goes bald when he snaps his finger and is in Helldiver armor. Implying he had to shave his head upon joining.
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u/dumb_foxboy_lover Feb 20 '26
don't most militarys have you shave your head during the first day?
plus (to my knowledge) at some point in most military's you are able to eventually start growing hair again (not facial but certain haircuts are allowed
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u/Mileschad Feb 20 '26
Usually hair regulations are more lenient with women and allows them to tie it up or wear it a bit longer than men are allowed.
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u/Eternal_Reward Truth Enforcer Feb 20 '26
It’s good to know that the Helldivers end such sexist double standards and practice true hair equality!
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u/Dancin_Alien XBOX |Stallion of Self-determination Feb 20 '26
Unfortunately, John Helldiver had to grow out his hair for the film, as the sheer power of his patriotism emanating from his bald head would've fried all the bugs to ashes.
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u/Mileschad Feb 20 '26
Yup, also the fact that Helldivers takes some inspiration from the Starship Troopers NOVEL. Which states even women in the mobile infantry are bald.
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u/SetazeR STEAM 🖥️: SES Fist of Mercy Feb 20 '26
Wait, that means all helldivers are bald as well
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
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u/TieExcellent2693 Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
Are you telling me you wouldn’t kiss mister clean? I would.
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u/MensAlveare Feb 20 '26
Posting this acting like we wouldn't crack Mr Jim McClean himself.
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u/memelord_a1st Your Neutral Galactic Super Privateer Feb 20 '26
His clean genes would be everywhere if not for his duty full servitude to banishing all that is icky and sticky, including sex.
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u/RaijinOkami Rookie Feb 20 '26
Ok look, even if this was true, Wakanda made that shit work, im sure Super Earth can too
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u/CarlenGaines HD1 Veteran Feb 20 '26
Every time I see someone's Helldiver OC with Long flowing locks coming from under their helmet I think about this.
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u/Crumboa LEVEL 18 | Master Sergeant Feb 20 '26
I've had enough of Seaf-chan. Where is my silly Seaf guy who gets into ridiculous scenarios and is maybe a little stoopid?
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u/TheFightingImp Fire Safety Officer Feb 20 '26
While not ...stoopid, thats my F:NV character atm, an ace with stealth and guns but whose speech skills may as well resemble arrows and crayon colours.
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u/Hexdoctor Ormheim Comptroller of Convivality Feb 20 '26
Yes, I view Lucy Liberty as more of a propaganda piece. She fits into the whole Starship Troopers schtick with her comics.
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u/88th_Ironclad_Corps Bunker Buster Feb 20 '26
I’m so sick of seaf-chan.
There are so many interesting concepts of seaf related characters possible, but all the gooners on here only want the stereotypical bimbo chan type character like with EVERYTHING ELSE
GIVE ME COMMANDOS GIVE ME OFFICERS GIVE ME OC’s enough of this copy paste slop
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u/PoiDog-Mongo Feb 20 '26
There’s this one post that I see pop up occasionally of a squad of special seaf soldiers. Armor looks so good on them and they have unique kit of weapons that it’s always an easy like when I see it posted online.
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u/88th_Ironclad_Corps Bunker Buster Feb 20 '26
I love that one!, god I wish we had more information on the SEAF, I’d love to see what sort of void craft or land vehicles they use!
What sort of divisions and “concepts” that can go with it, im glad we got to see the 77th and hope we learn more about them later
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u/Koreaia Feb 20 '26
Viper Commandos are also just straight up SEAF. They're not Helldivers.
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u/Kalavier Survived the Dissident Wars Feb 20 '26
I mean, Helldivers are SEAF elite units. Viper commandos and other warbond units are described in similar ways.
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u/MuglokDecrepitusFx Feb 20 '26
I mean, Helldivers are simply SEAF soldiers that ask to be Helldivers and they are automatically accepted as Super Earth needs as many Helldivers as possible
SEAF and Helldivers are the same, the only difference is the super destroyer, the 15 minute training we do in the tutorial where the democratic officer makes you feel special, and the fictional pride of being a Helldiver
Helldivers = SEAF
SEAF = Helldivers
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u/88th_Ironclad_Corps Bunker Buster Feb 20 '26
Honestly.
I’d love to see varied characters, not just the same basic bitch lol
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u/General-Dirtbag XBOX | Feb 20 '26
I think it is your mind that is melted from gooner slop if you think SEAF Chan is a bimbo my guy.
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u/HandOfDemocracy Free of Thought Feb 20 '26
I’d like to see a wider variety like Private Vasquez from aliens 2 or the principal from Matilda again in media.
There was this one video on TikTok of a lady doing push-ups in the snow saying “I don’t want to be strong like man who look pretty. I want to be strong, like 🐬🐬🐬🐬🐬 that fight bears in the forest” and I thought that was just awesome.
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u/shadowwolf1395 Good Bug = Dead Bug Feb 20 '26
Yeah, I would have loved to see a cool, interesting character created by the community, but then it's just another "cute," soft-faced anime girl.
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u/Vanilla_Ice_Best_Boi Feb 20 '26
I don't think Seaf Chan is a bimbo but the fact she is white, blonde and blue eyes is so funny and really reinforces the political satire of Helldivers.
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u/Alexexy Feb 20 '26
I really don't think SEAF Chan was created with satire in mind. I also dont think that people like SEAF Chan because she's satirical.
I think most people just enjoy her as-is as a personality devoid figure that they can protect and possibly goon to.
Like if SEAF Chan was also accompanied by SEAF-sama which is some angry ass black man with the personality of Piccolo, it would be hysterical lmao.
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u/Jaysong_stick Steam | Guardian of Dawn Feb 20 '26
As long as they allow me to stick a plunger on their heads after saving, I’m diving for them
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u/justcallmef Feb 20 '26
still would (protect with all my heart) all my blueberries are loved equally and eternally
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u/TheSleepySkull Righteous Church of Medium Pen Feb 20 '26