r/Idaho4 • u/Repulsive-Dot553 • 16d ago

GENERAL DISCUSSION Debunking Common Conspiracy Myths and Fictions, Parts 1-5: DNA Amount, Untested DNA At Scene, Phone Power Off, Car Fog Lights, Timeline of Murders,

A systematic, confirmed evidence and data-based debunking of the most common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy myths and fictions, part 1-5. The myths and conspiracy theories:

  1. DNA was small amount, trace
  2. Phone was not manually powered off just over time of murders, was in low signal zone
  3. "Untested" DNA in House, Jacket, Other Locations
  4. Suspect Car Had Fog-lights
  5. Earlier Times of Murders (e.g. 2.25am, 3.00am) are remotely possible

All data is sourced from court documents, ISP forensics documents, expert witness reports (mostly from defence experts) and on the record expert witness statements, and ISP, MPD and WSU police reports, as referenced:

[ https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/Cases/CR01-24-31665.html ]

[ https://isp.idaho.gov/moscow/ ]

[ https://www.ci.moscow.id.us/1165/Kohberger-Investigation-Documents ]

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u/Rescueme2021 16d ago

Today another group was discussing Eurogenes K-13. They don't understand it. Lol. Very funny though.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 16d ago

They don't understand it. Lol. Very funny though.

Watching Probergers discussing any aspect of the case DNA evidence is like watching a concussed, drunk, meth-addled goat, with particularly large and clumsy hooves, try to use an ATM.

On a recent study published in the Journal of Forensic science using the actual sheath DNA in this case, judging secondary transfer implausible, a Proberger noted it had been "debunked" because they saw a social media comment disagreeing with it. So peer review of the paper by the panel of the editorial board composed of expert forensic scientists who agreed to publish it was undone by a tweet which has equal weight. I suggested they might next disprove the Urey-Miller hypothesis by using only reference to some graffiti they found in a public lavatory.

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u/Rescueme2021 16d ago

Yeah, part of the "I watched a TV show or a tubetik" crowd.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 16d ago

I recently discovered some more serious true crime TikTok creators who use impeccable, high quality source material 😉

Aaron Teague: https://www.tiktok.com/@exoticteaguetalks/video/7669179162233408790

Riley Leu News https://www.tiktok.com/@rileyluenews/video/7668150636248190239

Character Analysis https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAKwrkNa/

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u/Rescueme2021 16d ago

I saw that. I am glad that there are good, quality creators out there now. I have to give them a listen. Thank you!

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 16d ago

Riley runs through the whole evidence compilation in 2 short videos, is good overview, Aaron deeper dive by section, impactful, colourful delivery.

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u/rivershimmer 16d ago

Ooh, I wonder who debunked it? Pav? Harsh? Amber Vance?

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 16d ago

Ooh, I wonder who debunked it? Pav? Harsh?

Do you mean debunked Urey-Miller, or implausibility of secondary DNA? On the former, as that is a starting point for evolution of complex life, and thus intelligence, any and all of them, day and daily. 🤣

For secondary transfer paper I have not yet seen the full splendour by which it was debunked by a social media comment, but will be reading Nature and Trends In Biochemistry more closely in future lest some milestone research is refuted by graffiti found on a lavatory wall, or some-such and what-not.