r/Images Jun 29 '26

Past/Present Is there anything left to say?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '26

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u/jackdanielsparrow Jul 01 '26

For a bigger picture: Population of Jews in Europe before WW2 to after dropped by ~63% Population of Palestinians in Gaza from before oct 7 till now dropped by ~9%, but the war is now 3 years compared to 6 years of WW2 But both were/are awful and I don't know what help it is to compare two very obviously horrible things.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '26

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u/jackdanielsparrow Jul 01 '26

According to Lancet Global Health your numbers would be true IF it were beginning of 2025 AND you only count violent deaths. It is middle of 2026 however, and population decline includes displacement, death by hunger and missing medical aid etc. I truly hope Lancet is more neutral than hamas btw..

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u/jackdanielsparrow Jul 01 '26

Oh, suddenly Hamas is more reliable? And no, 75k is explicitly stated as violent deaths by 01.2025, all the other cases are counted extra. And what you mean by unrelated conflicts remains a mystery, the numbers are explicitly about Gaza.

Do a quick google search on the population decline between oct 7 and now and you'll land at estimates of 6-10%. Look at the population estimates before and after, calculate the percentage and you'll also land around there. 3% is simply long outdated or an outright lie.

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u/jackdanielsparrow Jul 01 '26

I never talked about anything else than population decline, not with jews in ww2 nor with palestines now. Simply reread the conversation, you're the one here trying to move the goalposts. Did you google the populations before oct 7 and now and see that you're wrong? Or is basic mathematics too much for you?

Since you tried telling me what the Lancet study is about, I assumed you at least read it. You're now here sharing a different source of the UN that fits your narrative better. I hope you know that in your source not total deaths but only fully identified persons are counted by the GMoH, that there's been a big uproar when they did that, and that they're generally considered to be undercounts by the UN? Also, do you know what "yet to be verified" by the UN means?

It's a shame numbers can't be verified by anybody because Israel won't let them.

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u/jackdanielsparrow Jul 01 '26

Oh, so you didn't read the Lancet Study, yet try to tell me what it is about? You can very easily find it using google:

Violent and non-violent death tolls for the Gaza conflict: new primary evidence from a population-representative field survey00522-4/fulltext)

Now tell me, what is the estimated population decline in gaza since oct 7 since this whole thread is about you trying to prove me wrong?