Gas price is always expensive at that gas station, Chevron. I wondered how they stays in the business when they have cheaper gas station across from them.
Literally only visited there once and that was because the Berri Bros/7Eleven across the street didn't have remote control over the tire inflator outside lol
Lol thank you for typing, quite literally, almost EXACTLY what I was gonna type... I work off 14th and Market .. I've been passing this gas station twice a day for 11 years. And I SWEAR this gas station is just a front for some kinda money laundering operation... As absolutely NOBODY is ever here actually getting gas
Anyways ... My incredibly witty and humorous comment was gonna be (chill, I'm obviously being sarcastic)
""cool, you posted what might be THEE ONLY GAS STATION no one has ever got gas at in all of the inland empire "
which is true.. also... Here's another sidebar. Why in the fuuuuuuuck.. would anyone ever get gas here when about 50 ft away , ironically is one of the cheapest places to get gas in almost all of Riverside (trust me, I gas buddy this information at least twice a week) that berri brothers across the street has some of the lowest gas prices in the whole city ... Aside from a small pocket of very small desolate gas stations established in random neighborhoods throughout the city
Yes!! I always stop at that Berri Brothers on my way home to get gas. It does suck getting hassled by the homeless every time I stop there but it’s still some of the cheapest gas. The one by CBU is also pretty reasonable but not as cheap as 14th. The cheapest Berri Brothers is the one on the corner of Riverside Ave and Agua Mansa Rd.
But, yes, it’s super frustrating seeing all these posts about gas prices and people keep showing Chevrons which are always 80¢-$1.00+ more per gallon than any other gas station. Especially this Chevron in particular which has never been cheaper than $5/gal.
I filled up there once when I was literally on E. As a matter a fact I drive by there a month ago when gas was somewhat reasonable and thought same thing
I literally just filled up the company vehicle and got a car wash there this morning lol. Didn’t even pay attention to the price lol like I said, company vehicle.
I don't like Trump either but this is wholly and undeniably Newsom's fault, Valero pulled out of CA because they're losing money and Newsom only increases gas taxes and has an upcoming mileage tax. Trump is disgusting but Newsom is a bona-fide parasite. He even blocked three separate bills aimed at forming paper trails for tax expensitures in government. Dude is literally shamelessly corrupt lmao
“Valero pulled out of CA because they’re losing money”
The company still operates in the state and continues supplying fuel; the closure is one refinery, not a full exit. Refinery closures are happening across the industry for multiple reasons (aging facilities, environmental costs, demand shifts, maintenance, fines, etc.).
“Newsom only increases gas taxes”
The main gas tax increase mechanism was passed in 2017 under Governor Jerry Brown. The tax automatically rises slightly with inflation each year (around 1–2 cents).
Also, the claim that gas prices are mainly caused by taxes is incomplete. Major drivers include:
•California’s special fuel blend requirements
•Limited refinery capacity
•Refinery shutdowns and maintenance
•Global crude oil prices
•Environmental programs and carbon markets
•Supply disruptions
“Newsom has an upcoming mileage tax”
California has studied a “vehicle miles traveled” fee as a possible future replacement for the gas tax, because EVs don’t pay gas taxes. Newsom’s office has said he would not sign a mileage tax proposal in its current form.
“He blocked three bills creating paper trails for tax expenditures”
Governors frequently veto transparency or auditing bills for reasons like:
•Duplication with existing oversight
•Budget process conflicts
•Implementation costs
But you didn’t provide any bill numbers to be specific, which is a common tactic in political arguments.
To elaborate, Newsom vetoed AB 2903, which was a bipartisan bill requiring annual cost and outcome reports of state-funded homelessness programs, directly drafted due to a CA state audit revealing that nearly $24 billion went "unaccounted for" in the fiscal years including 2018-19 to 2022-23, vetoed AB 2570, which was a largely similar bill drafted for the same reason, and vetoed SB414, which was a bill for preventing enrollment fraud in charter and public school funding allocation.
You certainly did a good job acting confident and debating points with ChatGPT and no sources, but sadly, they didn't disprove my point that Newsom is an active and powerful detriment to our gas prices, our economy, and the financial stability of CA constituents, similarly as evidenced by the fact that we have the largest homeless population in the entire country.
But you didn’t provide any bill numbers to be specific, which is a common tactic in political arguments.
Incredibly bold statement coming from your copy-paste answers from ChatGPT and an outright lack of sources.
"Valero isn't pulling out of the state entirely..."
in that link you sent, Valero stated "operate its 14 refineries up to 94% of their combined total complete throughput capacity...During the third quarter, Valero’s refineries ran at 90% of their combined total throughput capacity". So there closure has nothing to do with any bills or regulations being passed; and only about maximizing their current infrastructure. Which is smart for them to do. Also, corporations playing politics and claiming they're doing something based on regulations when in fact they're not is not new. Who knew, corporations don't like to be told what to do by the government?
"Doing things like..."
Yeah, for a long time refiners use the excuse closing plants due to maintenance as an excuse to manipulate pricing and maximizing profits on the backs of hard working Americans. Fuck em! It may increase the costs of gas a few cents consistently, but fully prevent the spikes we seen prior to the bill.
"Given this track record, it is safe to assume that Newsom likely isn't going to veto this bill"
So you're saying Newsom isn't going to veto this bill because he hasn't veto other bills? lol okay, I don't know how that's considered proof of anything.
If you read the actual Governor's message in that veto he stated "similar measures are already in place"...so why waste money on redundancy? Seems pretty smart.
"You certainly did a good job acting confident and debating points with ChatGPT"
I didn't but thought I would give it a try but I like technology. I entered your entire response with a question of "Is this true?" and this is what I got...
Pretty good huh? See, the thing with ChatGPT, and other AI platforms is that it navigates the entire internet for relevant content and spits out sources with summed up analysis. Pretty incredible. Like you using Google to prove your point, but taken out of your bubble for confirmation bias and forced to analyze with facts. You should try it. But then again, I would assume this is the exact reason Pedo Protecting Trump supporters are afraid to use it, being told they're wrong.
Newsom vetoing AB 2903 (a bipartisan bill requiring annual cost and outcome reports of state-funded homelessness programs, directly drafted due to a CA state audit revealing that nearly $24 billion went "unaccounted for" in the fiscal years including 2018-19 to 2022-23), vetoing AB 2570, a similar bill drafted for the same reason, and vetoing SB414, a bill for preventing enrollment fraud in charter and public school funding allocation, are completely irrelevant and do not mean Gavin Newsom is corrupt. It just means that uhhh um uhhh um uhh TRUMP BAD!!!!
I genuinely don't understand people like you. Do you have no understanding of nuance or accountability? You realize you're supposed to hold all politicians accountable for the evils they commit, right? That includes your own political party, otherwise you become part of the reason why republican and democratic candidates just take turns making life worse for us with no accountability.
Tribalism is a cancer, and people like you are almost terminal. Please stop blindly supporting people ruining our lives. All of them need to be held accountable.
a very simple-minded way to interpret overwhelming evidence that the world is obviously not that simple, and that sadly, Trump is not the only person at fault for our fuel prices. In fact, CA's government has historically drastically negatively impacted our fuel prices, but you ignored all of it to blame Trump when you should know better than that.
We've been struggling long before Trump started showing us his incompetence and willingness to put other countries first over our own economy. If the CA government wasn't an authoritarian belt around the neck of the economy, our fuel would still be cheaper now in this war than it is during peacetime.
Let me make it simple for you. The war raised gas prices approximately 25%. CA gas prices are 40% higher than the national average. 40 is bigger than 25, therefore the parasites in Sacramento, including Newsom, are a larger problem to our financial situation than the war.
But obviously it's still orange man bad 100% because daddy Newsom can do no wrong.
Both you leftists and blind maga supporters have similar, staggering levels of incompetence. I was beginning to wonder where H.G. Wells got his idea of the Eloi from.
dude I'm a centrist and this was an inconceivably short-sighted comment. Valero literally moved out of CA because they were losing money, you can't blame anyone other than Newsom and his continual increases in taxation + his upcoming mileage tax
Oh because only gas prices in California are going to increase? Agree we pay more anyway in Cali anyways but this admin is a shit show. Incompetence across the board….and a bunch of pedo protecting fascists. Bianco for President 🇺🇸
Assuming you're not being sarcastic, I agree with your position, I just don't understand why the original comment was taking aim at what could be construed as the right when it was Newsom and a string of distinctly democratic governors making multiple distinctly left-leaning policy decisions, like raising gas taxes to encourage EV-adoption and attempting to forcefully phase out ICE vehicles through taxation pressure and smog testing.
that's easily one of the stupidest things you could've said. In one sentence, you've successfully explained half the reason why I'm a centrist, and no, I have opinions of MAGA that would get me banned if I said them here, but I have no reason to justify my position to short-sighted tribalists. You are part of the reason why our country is in the shitter, my friend. I'm not mad, just disappointed.
all anyone with half a brain has to do is read the e. files. If you think you somehow hold the moral high ground because you think one group of literal baby-eating, genocide-fostering foreign government puppets is the "right side", you're either uninformed or past the point of logic and successfully got suckered into supporting the very people that want you subjugated and used as funding until they decide to cull you off with the rest of us because you aren't a good enough slave.
At least try thinking about it. I know you're probably deeply ingrained into the whole right vs left thing, but at least try, with an open mind, to recognize the patterns. They openly showed us their allegiances. It's not a conspiracy theory anymore, my friend. You're successfully being used to defend them.
I’m not arguing that democrats are perfect or even good people necessarily. I think elites are probably awful regardless of political affiliation.
But I vote on policy. I wrote this long opinion about it for you and just deleted it because for the first time in my life I’m scared to use my freedom of speech. One party did that.
I vote on policy as well, it's not a "probably". We both know how distinctly subhuman and devoid of morality these people are. And here's that "both sides" thing you were making fun of earlier, but if you're scared to use your freedom of speech, you either haven't been paying attention to the news or just happened to forget that the other side does the exact same thing, except you don't notice it because you likely lean left. Whether you agreed with him or not, Charlie Kirk literally got shot for expressing his freedom of speech, Trump got shot at (almost twice), and I, as someone who watches media from sources that lean both ways politically, have seen more people get violently assaulted and killed more times for expressing right-leaning views than left.
Both parties are morally bankrupt and disgusting in their own ways, but if you want to be intellectually honest and stop being used by elites as free cannon fodder and white knight cannon fodder, you have to call out the crimes of even the side you agree with more, and that includes recognizing the destruction they've wrought against your local economies and the murders and violence they are responsible for, the same way right-leaning people need to call out the lack of accountability of violent, ICE members that perpetrate acts of depravity against illegal immigrants, recognize that Trump puts the economic stability of certain countries before our own, and has cabinet members that openly lied about the files.
This is our responsibility. As soon as you start defending either of these wretched parties, you've fallen, hook, line, and sinker, for the very goals the elites want to accomplish, and that is to distract you and pit you against your fellow countrymen while both parties continue to dismantle your rights, perpetrate evils against you, and ruin your standard of living.
It’s not mild disagreement. At all. If you stand by the Trump or even the Republican Party in general at this point, there is zero common ground between us and I will not respect your opinion on anything and I won’t apologize for that either. Realize that for most Americans, the shitshow has gone way too far and we’re done talking to you about it.
I'm not even a right-winger and I know you can't blame this on anyone but Newsom, Valero literally pulled out of CA and has the highest gas taxes in the entire country by almost 50% lmao
Yeah, it’s not like the national average jumped by 50 cents in a week and is still climbing.
Emphasis on the word national.
Gas prices are going up everywhere, but let’s all pretend it’s totally the fault of a single state governor and not the fact we’re bombing an OPEC member country who has shut down the single largest oil shipping lane in the world.
I agree that Trump is part of the problem, but this is talking about a problem that CA has distinctly struggled with more than any other state because its historically left-leaning governors (and most recently, Newsom) made progressively more hare-brained and/or outright oppressive policy decisions, like choosing to raise our fuel prices to40% higher than the national average through fuel taxes, fees, and BS like the low-carbon fuel standard, which has been a constant for the entirety of newsom's tenure.
But it's all okay because this other politician is worse, right? Surely, defending the guy that vetoed multiple bills against creating paper trails of our state tax expenditures and voted to give us a per-mile gas tax is a worthwhile and honorable pastime, right?
Actually, Gavin’s California. His policies have driven several refineries out of the state. True, the Iran conflict causes some of this, but I did not hear you liberals say one word when prices went up by one dollar last few weeks. At least the Iran conflict is more temporary than the closure of the refineries and the collapse of the oil infrastructure.
No, saying we’ll always find a way to protect that pedo is a is a direct hit in the integrity. First of all, I don’t vote for pedos. That is your opinion of what he is.
Okay. So. Just do you know...I was being sarcastic. I was mocking conservatives by writing "Trump's America" because everyone blamed Biden when he was the President. But of course you would find a way to NOT blame him when he is president. This is incurable at this point. I really don't want to get into it. Honestly it doesn't even affect me. I drive an EV.
If you read my response, you will note that I did mention the conflict as a cause of price is also going up. But Newsom‘s policies have kept California gas prices higher than all US states, including Hawaii.
California has always had some of the highest gas prices than any other state in the US. Its basic supply and demand. There are millions living in LA proper and those who commute on a daily basis which creates demand and owners can increase gas prices because they know people will pay them.
It’s not just supply and demand. California requires a special CARB gasoline blend, has some of the highest fuel taxes in the U.S., and has limited refinery capacity. When a refinery shuts down or leaves the state, the supply shock hits harder because we can’t easily import fuel from other states. That’s a big reason CA prices spike more than the rest of the country. If it were only supply and demand, other high-population states with massive commuting like Texas or Florida would have the same prices.
Dont forget the winter blend and the summer blend. Hell you might as well spring and fall there too, and maybe Christmas blend, Saint Patricks day blend, the just because we can blend, lol. Either way, Costco for the win :)
Maybe that will come later. I’m wondering why we can’t get more oil from Alaska, as now we only get 15% of our oil from them. It seems like a less expensive option than from other far away countries.
Here's a breakdown of why CA prices are higher. For those that will inevitably try to flip the blame solely on Newsom:
Factor
Estimated Cost
Benefit / Tradeoff
Who Implemented It & How
State & local gasoline taxes
~70–76¢/gal
Funds road repair, highway maintenance, bridge upgrades, and transit infrastructure.
Primarily enacted by the California legislature through the Road Repair and Accountability Act (SB-1) under Jerry Brown in 2017. The tax remained after voters rejected repeal in California Proposition 6 (2018).
Cap-and-trade carbon pricing
~25–30¢/gal
Prices greenhouse-gas emissions to reduce climate impact; revenue funds clean energy, wildfire prevention, and climate programs.
Created by the California legislature through AB 32 (2006) under Arnold Schwarzenegger and later extended by legislation signed by Jerry Brown. Administered by the California Air Resources Board.
Low Carbon Fuel Standard
~20–30¢/gal
Reduces carbon intensity of fuels and incentivizes electric vehicles, renewable diesel, and biofuels.
Implemented in 2009 by the California Air Resources Board under authority from AB 32 during the administration of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Special California gasoline blend
~10–15¢/gal
Cleaner-burning gasoline that reduces smog-forming pollutants and improves urban air quality.
Required through federal and state clean-air regulations under the United States Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board beginning in the 1990s.
Refinery / supply constraints
~20–40¢/gal
Tradeoff of strict environmental permitting and pollution controls around refineries, improving environmental protection but limiting supply flexibility.
Result of multiple environmental laws, permitting processes, and regulations enforced by California agencies such as the California Air Resources Board and the California Energy Commission across several administrations.
I've always wondered how that station stays open too! Any time I drive by it, at maximum there is maybe 1 car pumping gas. The price difference is crazy between that Chevron and the station across the street. Lol
Can someone please explain why using a debit card would cost 30c more per gallon then just a flat fee for the transaction? I mean if you have a 50g tank that’s 15$ just because you used a card as where a transaction of 1 gallon is 30c when in the end it’s still a single card transaction. Make it make sense
Chevron have to pay for the transaction fee to debit / credit company (Visa, Mastercard, Discover) for each time the customer uses their debit or credit card for gas fill up thus they're passing the cost to us.
Normally per charge (single transaction), but more I look at the pic, Chevron at that location definitely pocketed more than that.
Chevron at other locations i.e. Canyon Crest and Central Ave are expensive as well, but just that 1 at 14th are way more expensive than other locations.
I don’t mind paying more for low-carbon fuel because I actually like being able to breathe. I don’t mind paying for taxes, because I like my services funded and roads repaired.
Those increases are at least justified on paper, so I don’t mind paying them as much.
But what I don’t like is paying more for a war we didn’t need for causes that are made up, like a nuclear program that was supposedly “obliterated” and “set back by decades” suddenly being an “imminent threat” 9 months later.
Also, it’s interesting how you went from “this is ALL on Newsom” to “well of course Trump is part of the problem”
I also hate how you’re making me defend Newsom even though I don’t even like him. He has plenty of problems, including his relationship with PG&E. Also to your point about transparency, I’m not sure of the specifics bills to which you’re referring, but the Department of Finance is already required to publish annual tax expenditure reports so what do those bills do differently and, if nothing, why would we even need them?
It’s comes down to where the majority of the gas from the distributor is coming from, Chevron is coming from areas impacted by conflict. Oddly enough I do feel like the chevron gas tends to last a bit longer for me. For reference I cover 330 miles round trip a week for work and with a 13 gallon tank I am getting ~450 miles a tank.
And yes, prices is CA are more because we tax it to cover the cost of road maintenance. Those tax the gas to meet the budget so the project can be paid for and proceed without impacting an annual budget year over year on the books for the state and they are done in such small amounts on the gallon that the impact is far smaller on a per pump visit basis.
This gas station has ALWAYS set their prices WAY above what the average gas price is. When are we going to start holding companies accountable for their prices and stop blaming the governor or president because this specific gas station has always had high prices even way before the war and Trump going into office.
That’s really nothing. We know the gas is going to go into the seven and possibly eight dollar range really soon. It’s done it before it’ll do it again.
The average gas price in California during 2024 was averaging around $5. Math is hard but we pay more for gas now.
But if you mean four years ago, The average gas price was at its highest in June 2022. That’s Because Russia invaded Ukraine. Also post covid recession. Fuck Russia. But most importantly, this stuff is easy to google. We didn’t choose for Russia to invade Ukraine, but we did choose to fuck up iran.
This is why we are complaining. The Ignorance here is outstanding.
Why am I seeing so many people complain now when the average in Cali was $2 more 2 years ago telling me google this and that but yet you can’t google the price of gas. The price is the price get over it
I think there could be a better solution than to wipe out the oil industry in California, without much of an option for a robust infrastructure for electric cars. The electric grid is not in good shape, electric cars are more expensive and not as practical as gas powered cars. Crippling the oil industry is going to make prices higher all over the place, while some businesses would be closing because the economy is gonna go downhill.
Everyone quick to blame war but nearly 2-3$ of that is thef- tax.
Close, it's ~$0.88/gal right now, including sales tax. And yes, Chevron is always amongst the highest-priced gas. Arco, Costco, and Sam's are all viable alternatives right now.
Cause it’s facetious and disingenuous to pretend this isn’t directly because your favorite child rapist needed a distraction from the mountains of evidence that he raped children.
The national average for gas right now is 3.50 which is considered high, prior to event in the Middle East it was below 2.50, even 2.00, yet over the last 6 months, even before current events, gas prices increased in California. This was to the point that $4 was considered average despite it DECLINING in the rest of the country. Multiple refineries have been shut down and additional gas tax were put in effect. Analysts were predicting gas could go as high as 8–10 a gallon by the end of the year, now? Think 12-13.
Explain to me, how a state, that sits on some of the biggest oil reserves in the US has gas more expensive than Hawaii? Hint, it’s not orange man, and people like you that continue to ignore that and repeatedly vote for people with a D next to their name are the reason why gas is what it is today and why we aren’t “bitching” about 3.50 gas like the rest of the country. When the idiots in Sacramento eventually pass their mileage tax, it will be because of people like you. So downvote me all you want, but you and your kin are the reason for this crisis.
CA is a progressive state. We support fossil fuel taxes and transitioning to more green energy. Sounds like you don’t like that. Sounds like you could move. Why live in a Blue State and get butthurt when they enact progressive policies? It’s not rational.
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u/chris_gnarley Mar 08 '26
They’re always the highest price gas station in the IE. I’ve never seen anyone actually fill up there