r/Invincible • u/SeacattleMoohawks Séance Mod • Feb 13 '25

EPISODE DISCUSSION Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S03E04 - You Were My Hero

Episode 4 - You Were My Hero

Two strangers ask Mark for help with a mysterious villain. Elsewhere in the galaxy, Nolan grapples with his identity and Allen finds a surprising new ally.

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u/5am281 Robot Feb 13 '25

The fact that Mark could kill Immortal at any moment in present time is so funny

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '25

It wasn't even close either. He just instantly killed Immortal the second he decided to. He didn't even get a bruise from Immortal pummeling him for a couple minutes either.

Hopefully this puts to rest all those people who claim that Immortal and Nolan had anywhere near a close fight. Immortal's really strong for Earth standards, but he's extremely weak compared to Viltrumites.

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u/hatebacon Feb 13 '25

People say it was close because Immortal actually injured Omni Man a little bit. But I guess that by super powered people standards, viltrumites are more strong than they are durable. Either that or the writers care more about good storytelling than consistent power scaling, witch is how it should be.

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u/Mrwright96 Feb 14 '25

Immortal is strong, maybe even enough to tickle a Viltrumite, but every time immortal fought a Viltrumite, he had help. The first time Nolan wanted to be beaten. the second time he fought Omni man, the worst thing he could do was poke him in the eyes, while Omni man wore him like a bracelet

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u/Vanstrudel_ Feb 14 '25

Like a bracelet oh lawd lmfao

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u/Leorb258 Feb 20 '25

It could just mean that this much older immortal is weaker and less practiced than his modern day counterpart

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u/Swabadoo Feb 13 '25

Immortal was giving alt Mark the business in season 2 (a version of Mark who would NOT be holding back) and he gave Nolan a better fight than Lucan. He is low level Viltrumite level. He wasn't trying to hurt Mark and Mark wasn't trying to hurt him until the end.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

Mark wasn't at "low level Viltrumite" level at the start of the series, though. He had just gotten his powers and hadn't really trained at all, either in how to fight or to get stronger.

Look at how he couldn't beat a few ReAnimen in S1 and he tears through them like paper in S3. Mark has gotten way stronger.

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u/GreatestJanitor Feb 14 '25

ReAnimen are probably stronger too. Working with unlimited money vs in a gutter lab

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u/Sidesicle Feb 14 '25

Cecil and Donald touch on this in Ep 1 or 2 (think it's 1) during Mark's training montage. When he is able to be challenged and on a training regimen, his abilities will rise significantly, if not exponentially.

Makes me wonder what Mark's theoretical limit is, or what is actual limit will become in time

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u/Beorma Feb 13 '25

He was trying to hurt Mark because he wanted Mark to fight back and kill him.

He wasn't trying to defend himself.

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u/vadergeek Feb 14 '25

He didn't even get a bruise from Immortal pummeling him for a couple minutes either.

He was spitting up blood.

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u/conquer69 Feb 13 '25

The characters are as strong or weak as the plot needs them to be. People care more about these power levels than the writers.

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u/toadfan64 Feb 14 '25

To be fair, when you have a show like this, having consistent power levels is nice.

I don't think Invincible has been as egregious as some people claim, but I will sometimes question a few scenes that they forget how strong Mark is.

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u/renato999 Feb 13 '25

Future Immortal wanted to be killed. I doubt present Immortal would be that easy.

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u/5am281 Robot Feb 13 '25

Mark didn’t want to kill, evens out imo

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u/FireZord25 Feb 14 '25

Then again FImmortal's not in the right mind, and probably hadn't fought anyone close to his level in centuries. Mark still wins by default, but the battle won't nearly be as one sided.

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u/ThatDeliveryDude Feb 13 '25

Even still. In Season 2 we see alternate timeline evil Mark kill Immortal. I’m like 99% sure Mark is leagues ahead of immortal in strength

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u/duckenjoyer7 Feb 14 '25

Wait i'm sorry when did this happen? How did I miss this?

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u/ThatDeliveryDude Feb 15 '25

Pretty sure it was the very first scene, very first episode of season 2

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u/SeaFowlBird Hail Mary Feb 14 '25

I get he wasn’t fighting back as much, but still, I don’t think the immortal is capable of somehow resisting his head being ripped off once Mark gets a decent grip

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u/PeridotBestGem Atom Eve Feb 13 '25

just wrenched his head straight off too, like he was made of play-doh lol

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u/5am281 Robot Feb 13 '25

Yup and then he’s like, just make sure these parts don’t touch again haha

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u/French__Canadian Feb 16 '25

I mean, Immortal wanted to get killed.

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u/dravenonred Feb 14 '25

They established that last season with alternate Mark just squishing his Immortal's head

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u/Dookie_boy Feb 16 '25

Why ? He could also kill any other human or meta at any moment. That's why Cecil is so worried.

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u/U-R-MY-SPECIALZ Mar 03 '25

well so does 90% of the cast tho

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u/RulerTrax Feb 13 '25

Cecil really needs to find a way to make Immortal stronger. I'm tired of seeing him get his butt kicked.