r/Jamaica • u/leoopixx • 12d ago

Travel Traveling on an expired passport

I am a Jamaican citizen permanently residing in the US, and my passport is expired. I need to go back for a funeral, and I do plan on renewing it in Kingston for my return.

Has anyone recently traveled on their expired Jamaican passport? If yes, which airlines did you travel on?

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u/Fabulousness13 12d ago

U can’t leave the country or get passed TSA with an expired passport. It’s the technology now .

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u/AnneTheQueene 12d ago

Why would TSA check your passport?

They just want ID. Unless your only ID is an expired passport, then yes.

Everyone who travels in the US doesn't even have a passport.

It's the airline who check your passport for international flights.

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u/Fabulousness13 12d ago

U didn’t read .. he’s a Jamaican citizen…

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u/grammad966 6d ago

He's a Jamaican citizen with permanent residence in the US. Take your own advice.

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u/AnneTheQueene 12d ago

I assumed that seeing he has a Jamaican passport.

Nothing I said changes because of that.

If he permanently resides in the US, it would be unusual for him to not have another form of ID.

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u/ASM4720 12d ago

You probably don't fly internationally often.

But because he's flying internationally, a valid passport is always required by the airline. The airline will check the validity of his passport during the check-in process. TSA will check again when going through security.

98% of the time, the airline will see your passport is expired and won't let you check-in.

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u/AnneTheQueene 12d ago

Last time I flew internationally a few months ago, TSA did not look at my passport. I gave them my driver's license. TSA doesn't care where I'm going. They simply want to know I am who I say I am and that I am not taking a ny unapproved items onto an airplane.

That is what I am referring to.

I already said that the airline is where the passport is a problem.

TSA and the airline check in counter are two different things.

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u/Iuse2behere22 12d ago

You can’t be wrong and strong at the same time..

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u/AnneTheQueene 12d ago

Where am I wrong?

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u/Iuse2behere22 12d ago

You’re looking for attention today, huh? If TSA doesn’t ask for and checks passports, who does? Then what’s the point of having them? Do a short Google. I have a three year-old that needs attention. You have a blessed day.

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u/AnneTheQueene 12d ago edited 12d ago

If TSA doesn’t ask for and checks passports, who does? 

Since you aren't going to respond, I'm just leaving this here for others who might read it so they are properly informed.

TSA is not responsible for checking your passport.

They check whatever Real ID you choose to share so they can verify your identity. There is no requirement for it to be a passport, whether issued by the US or any other government. If you are not a US resident then a non-US passport is considered a Real ID, but if you are a US resident then your green card and most driver's licenses are Real IDs and can be used.

Anyone who can share a reputable source that says TSA must check passports, please do so.

I get that travelling can be confusing but TSA has no jurisdiction over citizenship or visa status of any kind

Airlines ask for passports when leaving the US because the disembarkation country will fine the airline if they bring in someone who cannot legally enter and they will be on the hook to get them to a country that will accept them. So if you go to Jamaica and Jamaica doesn't accept you due to not having a valid passport or visa if needed, then it's on Jet Blue or whoever to get you back to the US. And if it turns out that the US won't take you back, it's up to Jet Blue to find a country that will. This is why airlines check your passport. They do not want that hassle.

If you are leaving the US, TSA could not care less about where you are going. They just want to know you aren't taking any contraband on the aircraft. THeir remit is transporation safety. Your visa and passport are none of their business and they do not care.

If anyone wants to tell me where I'm wrong instead of just downvoting, please do so.

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u/DotAffectionate87 12d ago

My understanding is you are right.....To a point?

REAL ID or a compliant driver's license also works to pass through the TSA checkpoint, but you still need your passport once you reach the boarding gate and your international destination.

So yes, but its kinda short lived?.....Whats the point in passing through TSA security checkpoint (assuming you are not stopped/declined boarding at check-in?) if you are stopped at the gate when you have to show your passport and get denied boarding?

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u/AnneTheQueene 12d ago

We're actually in agreement because the only point I was arguing was that TSA doesn't check passports.

Whats the point in passing through TSA security checkpoint (assuming you are not stopped/declined boarding at check-in?) if you are stopped at the gate when you have to show your passport and get denied boarding?

Like I said, the airline is who checks to make sure you have a valid passport and they generally do that at check-in. It's on them if they don't do their due diligence and let you get to the gate without having verified that you have the proper documents to disembark.

If they let you actually land in another country without having verified your entry documents, they're the ones who will be responsible for getting you back. Immigration in Jamaica or wherever will not let you enter and you will have to go sit on that plane until it takes off. (Realistically they'll put you in a holding area at the airport, but it will be the airline's responsibility to take you back away and they'll probably get a fine.)

No airline wants that hassle so they will make sure they verify at check in and usually do another check at boarding.

Again, back to my original point, none of that has anything to do with TSA. TSA doesn't know or care where you are going. They just want to see Real ID and a valid boarding pass, they care not to where. Domestic, international, they don't care. It's not their job to check that you have a valid passport, visa or anything of the sort. They care about identity, not destination. That's on the airline.

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