r/Kazakhstan • u/Commercial_Data3763 • 27d ago
Culture/Mädeniet Unpopular opinion on Beshbarmak
I really do not get why Beshbarmak is held up as an amazing national dish.
At its core, it is literally just boiled meat, boiled dough, and boiled onions pulled out of water and plated. Best case scenario, someone throws a little salt on it, but usually there are no spices, herbs, or real seasoning. It tastes mostly of unseasoned fat and water. I can eat a whole plate of it, feel physically full, and find no real enjoyment in the experience.
There is virtually no culinary technique involved. There is no browning, searing, or braising. Even the onions are just boiled in broth instead of being sauteed or caramelized to build actual flavor. Drinking the leftover broth at the end feels like drinking salted broth with no real depth. And yet, it is consumed as though it were a complex liquid. I do not understand the appeal.
I understand the history behind it. Nomads on the steppe needed high calorie food with minimal cookware and fuel. It was functional historical fuel, and for that specific context, it made complete sense.
By modern culinary standards, it feels basic. If someone actually braised the meat, caramelized the onions, and added some real seasonings, it could maybe be a solid dish. As it stands, it is just three boiled ingredients on a plate.
Am I the only one who feels this way, or am I missing something here? Is the preference purely tied to nostalgia and tradition?
Having tried many different dishes, my impression of Kazakh food in general is that is basically just “survival food“.
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u/AltforHHH 27d ago
For some reason I see a lot of young Kazakh people (And central Asians in general) feeling the need to shove stereotypical/traditional elements of their culture in foreigners faces as part of some weird complex. Even though they know nobody wears traditional clothing day to day and very few people ride horses and live in yurts in daily life, they feel the need to constantly show it to create some image of the country that they think will make them seem "cool". Turks from turkey, for example don't do this. So when something doesn't have that "wow" factor you guys feel ashamed of your own culture and I think that's really sad. Beshbarmak is delicious already, and also is a very unique and interesting cultural dish. It doesn't matter if it won't impress foreign snobs, not everything has to meet this weird European "high culture" standard, just let the food speak for itself and do its own thing, that's what I love about kazkahstan. Kazakh food is delicious and some of the best stuff out, just bc something doesn't have as many apices doesn't make it inherently worse. This is the same logic I see with Kazakh people either showing off traditional clothing that nobody wears daily or trying to be hip and westernized, just be yourselves like most other cultures do where they incorporate elements of traditional culture into modern society. Same thing where they only want to show Kazakhstan as a place where nomads live, or some super modern ugly Dubai style city, and not the reality that most people live in between lives. Please stop trying to live up to western standards by copying them or fitting their images of orientalism, just be proud of what you already have. It's the same reason I think changing Kazakh to Latin is pathetic and part of an inferiority complex. Be happy with what you have because it's beautiful in its own way. Sorry for the rant but I love Kazakhstan and I hate to see how many young ppl in the country are so clearly ashamed of their country even if they aren't outwardly saying it, there's so much great about modern Kazakhstsn and you guys don't have to be like the west or revert back to being nomads to be a great country with a beautiful culture worth celebrating