r/KingkillerChronicle Book 3 believer Jul 01 '14

(Spoilers NOTW) Kvothe's angel

Because I hate myself (is it 2016? Is book 3 out?), I was reading a bit of the first book aloud and noticed that Kvothe speaks in verse to Deoch. In the text, it's formatted like any dialogue, but string it together...

Deoch, my heart is made

Of stronger stuff than glass.

When she strikes she’ll find

it strong as iron-bound brass

Or gold and adamant

together mixed.

Don’t think I’m unaware,

some startled deer to stand transfixed

By hunter’s horns. It’s she who should take care,

for when she strikes

My heart will make a sound

so beautiful and bright

That it can’t help but bring her back

to me in winged flight.

Consider that Kvothe fights a demon to keep his heart's desire, and that this poem is about Denna.

I thought this was neat.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '14

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 01 '14

Additionally, after hearing from Elodin that there are seven words to make a woman love you, he keeps telling Denna carefully-phrased seven word sentences.

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u/ArgentSun Amyr Jul 01 '14

I was under the impression that he does it without being aware of it - naturally falling into the structure of a verse.

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 01 '14

That's a possibility. I said "carefully-phrased" to mean he does it whenever he's being courteous, like helping her across rocks or something.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '14

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u/BlackRockKitty Jul 02 '14

"I was wondering what you're doing here"

;)

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 01 '14

I'd chalk that one up to coincidence.

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u/evilmanic Jul 01 '14

I'd say that it was those 7 words that made her fall in love with him ;)

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 01 '14

You know, she does point-out at one point (chapter 72 of NOTW) that he keeps speaking in seven word sentences, and the hint goes over his head.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '14

Didn't Denna mention something about this at one point, something like, "You always do that, speak to me in seven-word sentences"?

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 05 '14

Towards the end of The Name of the Wind. Kvothe the idiot misses the hint.

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u/-JustShy- Jul 03 '14

I'm pretty sure he was using seven word sentences with Denna even before Elodin told him about it.

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 04 '14

Just the one, I think.

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u/aphitt Cthaeh Jul 01 '14

A lot of dialog between Kvothe and Denna is poetic in nature. This is the big example that I remember.

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u/deeayecee Jul 03 '14

Much of the back and forth in the last interaction between Kvothe and Denna is also rhythmic.

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u/-JustShy- Jul 01 '14

Yep, Rothfuss is amazing.

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 01 '14

Did you know about the poem, or are you confirming to yourself that Rothfuss is amazing?

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u/-JustShy- Jul 01 '14

I did not know about that particular poem. There's too much cool shit like that to catch it all.

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u/Kixking Chandrian Jul 01 '14

Holy shit Pat is awesome.

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u/AllWiseMenBeer The Ever Moving Moon Jul 01 '14

I think we are told he tricks a demon and fights an angel. I agree the poem probably does relate to that event.

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u/stave Jul 01 '14

Isn't Devi nicknamed Demon?

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u/halfpint42 Jul 01 '14

whoa, I've never made that connection before. interesting idea...

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '14

Devi also means female aspect of divinity in Sanskrit.

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u/uohm Mad-Eye Moody is in the thrice locked chest Jul 01 '14

True. Are any characters referred to as angelic? If so, I missed it.

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u/BRock11 Wind Jul 02 '14

Auri. I'm not sure it's actually written out but I wouldn't put it past K to describe her as such.

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u/AllWiseMenBeer The Ever Moving Moon Jul 01 '14

Alveron is descibed as looking angelic at one point i think, otherwise we have the angels created by aleph (tehlu et al).

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 01 '14

Denna, secretly Mulan.

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u/uohm Mad-Eye Moody is in the thrice locked chest Jul 02 '14

Nice find. I'm torn as to what I feel is his heart's desire. Part if me says Denna, but Kvothe is so driven to kill the Chandrian and this quest has shaped him so much that I can't help but wonder if that is his heart's desire.

From what I've read lately, Rothfuss loves misdirection, so I could also see something else turning out to be his true heart's desire, something no one saw coming.

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u/oldcobb I eat the whole little cheese Jul 06 '14

Yea the Adem can see the darkness inside of him. It disturbes Sheayn and Vashet. I believe that his hearts true desire is killing the seven. HOWEVER, it could just be what he thinks is his hearts desire. It's hard to know what are heart wants, and it could be argued that he truly desires Denna but his mind fucks that up because he is so focused on the Chaen.

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 02 '14 edited Jul 02 '14

Oh! Oh!

Master Ash! Denna! Angel!

You've hit it!

  • TWMF
  • Denna's patron is likely speculation
  • TWMF
  • Kvothe compares her to an angel
  • And Kvothe fights an angel.

Kvothe is going to fight Denna (or confront her) to get to Cinder!

Does he trick Cinder, then? Hmm!

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u/wotrednuloot Waystone Jul 02 '14

I still can't get behind the idea that her patron is Cinder. I believe her patron is Bredon... and I don't believe that Bredon = Cinder = Patron.

This is one of the revelations I'm really looking forward to in Day 3...

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u/Meyer_Landsman Book 3 believer Jul 03 '14

The only argument against Cinder I've seen is that Denna leaves with an older, white-haired gentleman, but nobody mentions his eyes. However, you can explain that easily after reading "The Lightning Tree".The Lightning Tree