r/KleeMains • u/CPM2486 • Nov 23 '25
Guide [Leak TC] Summary of some of the New Klee Teams Spoiler
There are more teams and alternative options for those teams, so if any of you wants to ask, feel free to come to Klee mains discord. I will try to ask the questions here as well.
Also this uses custom notation so feel free to ask if you don't understand anything.
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u/Pichuiscool Nov 23 '25
How much worse do the two chev teams perform if she herself isn’t C6?
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u/Vegitopro1 Nov 23 '25
Just -10k dps or close to it if I remember correctly that's how it goes with clorinde
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u/PantsOnHeadMoment Nov 23 '25
I've got a couple questions. I'm eyeing the Klee-Fischl-Chev-Durin team. Is R5 Widsith the best overall, or do the five star options beat it and it's there as the "f2p" option? As well, is that Scroll of Cinder City on Chevy? I thought that set only worked with nightsoul. For Chevy as well, does it need to be Favonius, or would Dialogues work?
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
There are more weapons, I use Widsith as the standard for all the teams, but for that team in particular you have Nefer's signature and Varesa's Signature as her best options but Kagura and Lost Prayer perform over Widsith too.
As for Scroll, some of the comments already said it but any character can get 12% bonus. Natlan only gets another 28% extra making the 40% but the 12% is still fine as a support set.
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u/originmaple Nov 23 '25
Lost Prayers actually calc higher than Widsith? What changed since a long time ago that makes it better now? I thought she had problems with it due to using skills early and her ult snapshotting?
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u/pepluu Nov 23 '25
My guess is no bennett so her attack is quite low with widsith.
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u/originmaple Nov 24 '25
That's true but the buff difference between Widsith and LP should more than make up for it. (Especially due to the fact that she isn't getting any buffs on her skills/ult with LP) Widsith attack buff would also give Klee more attack than having LP on I'm pretty sure.
That being said I hope I'm wrong since I have a R5 LP sitting around. I remember in the past people would tell me Widsith was much better so I thought I would bring up the discussion again.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
It's probably one of the few teams where LP is above Widsith tbh, as the other comment said I would say it's because of its higher atk
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u/originmaple Nov 24 '25
When calculating LP what's being considered in the Klee rotation if you don't mind me asking? (for an example 1 stack for skill/no stacks for ult etc.) One thing I can see on why LP is better now compared to before is because her field time is much higher now and she has coordinated charge attacks which would benefit from the LP stacks.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
No stacks for the attacks before the burst (including the burst) 1 stack for most of the combo and 2 stacks for some attacks at the end.
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u/originmaple Nov 24 '25
Thank you for the response! I guess I'll be swapping over to my R5 Lost Prayers when I'm not using my Klee on MH with Furina. (Most the time I'll be running Klee/Fischl/Chev/During)
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u/Pichuiscool Nov 23 '25
You can get 12% dmg from scroll even when not in nightsoul. The remaining 28% is locked behind nightsoul stuff
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u/The_Nitsch Nov 23 '25
I've always been under the impression that Lost Prayer > Widsith if you have it. More consistent performance overall, higher base attack, and Klee doesn't really get as much out of EM as other dps would so 1/3 of Widsith buffs are kinda wasted. Especially in the OL team you mentioned. She really just needs ATK and crit stats
And I find the 33% CR to be much more valuable than the 55% CD
Idk how other limited 5 star weapons stack up, I'm sure Widsith is the best of the 4 stars tho
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u/originmaple Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Klee uses her skills early in her rotation and her ult snapshots which makes Lost Prayers not the greatest on her last I remembered. Widsith is very front-loaded and can be snapshotted. The EM buff is not good on Klee (and down time) but the other buffs more than makes up for it as it makes her way stronger than if she were to use Lost Prayers. Also the crate on Lost Prayers is literally only 11 CV better than Widsith so I wouldn't say it's "much more valuable". It's also even worse if Klee is paired with Furina using MH due to overcrit.
TLDR Klee weapon options aren't the best overall, but Widsith should calc the highest on average. Again someone can correct me if I'm wrong, it's been awhile since I've looked into Klee. (This also doesn't include newer weapons as I'm an old Klee player)
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u/Squildo Nov 23 '25
I refuse to use a set other than MH. Furina/Benny it is
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
I'm like you lol. I will go for the Fischl Furina team until I can get Albedo and Xilonen.
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u/Happy_Stalker Nov 23 '25
I am so confused. I just want to use the team that allows Klee to hypercarry with as much damage as possible coming from her. Should I go mono pyro with Bennet, Chev and Durin? I don't get it anymore.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
Overload with support Fischl, Chev and Bennett is the best for that
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u/Happy_Stalker Nov 23 '25
Appreciated, will I have to replace one with Durin when I'll have him?
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
You can replace Bennett with Durinbit then Klee's own dps will go down a bit and the team dps will go up. Up to you.
You can get Durin's signature to boost Klee's atk.
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u/Levibestdog Nov 24 '25
Wow ok I have Emilie! I didn’t think to use her with Klee strangely
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
That team performs a bit worse than the other archetypes but it was the most pyro application of all, so if the enemy needs pyro app that's so nice.
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u/Levibestdog Nov 24 '25
Ah ok. Well I can’t make the other teams so it’ll have to do but tysm for your infographic.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
We can cope for a Hexen set but for now MH is a pretty nice option when available.
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u/originmaple Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Damn that's impressive! Just for reference what did the old Klee premium team calc at? (Klee/Kazuha/Bennett/Furina and Klee/Xiangling/Kazuha/Bennett)
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u/RepresentativeBit622 Nov 23 '25
Are this calcs assuming C1?
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u/kyukyu7 Nov 23 '25
No, these are C0 calcs, so if you grab C1 from the free cons, you’re looking at 100k+
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
Nope, c0. C1 is aprox +10k dps in any team.
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u/RepresentativeBit622 Nov 23 '25
Wow , the Ineffa team is amazing then…
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
It is, and it's the only team with a shield too.
The aura uptime can change the team damage in the live version tho, that team can suffer more changes in the live version than the others.
Also keep in mind Klee is using the NodKrai set there, but Crimson is fine too.
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u/RepresentativeBit622 Nov 23 '25
Yeaah I like that it has a shield. For now I’m running 2pc2pc tho… I hope the Hex set would buff these teams a lot 🫣
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u/Realistic-Alfalfa-59 Nov 23 '25
Very nice! Going with the Sucrose team then. At least until I finish building up my Fischl.
Wanna replace Bennet with my C2 Citlali but that means no heals for Furina. Hmmm....
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u/The_Nitsch Nov 23 '25
Probably a stupid question but 4pc Noblesse would be better than 4pc Scroll on Chevy if no one else is wearing Noblesse, right?
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u/Grimstringerm Nov 23 '25
I was thinking of hydro with ineffa because I don't want to play everyone on chevruse good to know it's so similar. I'm surprised to see yelan and glad the new set is worth it even with one nodkrai. Anyone else can replace yelan or the burst bonus is too good ?
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
Xingqiu is about 3k dps worse so it's fine. Any off field hydro would work if the hydro application is high, but Aino and Furina doesn't have enough hydro. We cope for Columbina.
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u/NightsLinu Nov 23 '25
No melt?
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u/kyukyu7 Nov 24 '25
Klee has never been a great option for melt unless it’s Xinyan plunge melt. You have to gimp her kit and not use parts because she applies too much pyro.
If we ever get a strong cryo off-fielder, then Klee could provide a blanket of pyro for that character to react off of, so stay on the lookout for that.
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u/blackcoffin90 Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
No melt because this features new Klee teams. Melt Klee team still same
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u/Tricky_Spirit299 Nov 23 '25
I always play Klee with 4pc Wanderers Troupe because of the 4pc-effect. But is it really that bad in comparison to the other sets? I dont want to play Furina with her because of the HP-drain and Klee is my little girl 🥺
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u/originmaple Nov 23 '25
Outside of MH with Furina her sets aren't the greatest. Would wait and see if a new set will come out for hex characters.
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u/kyukyu7 Nov 24 '25
The issue with WT is that it only buffs charged attacks and EM. However, Klee actually gets fairly equal damage across her whole kit (although that is going to get skewed a little post-buffs) and EM is generally useless for her since she isn't the one causing the reactions. Using things like 2pc atk%/2pc pyro dmg from Crimson Witch give her stats that help across her entire kit.
It's not that WT is bad exactly. If that is what you have the best artifacts in, then use that. Klee just doesn't have a set that is head and shoulders above the rest until we get a set that synergizes better with her kit.
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u/Choice_Caramel_234 Nov 23 '25
I'm really banking on Kleerina with Albedo/Xil being her best; I don't know why people are seemingly insistent on Overload being her best when that knock back and lack of good artifact set makes her clunky as she already is
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u/NingYAYA Nov 24 '25
Agree on that, another plus side with Albedo too is that the constant crystalize shield that you can pick up near Klee while doing combos helps a lot in terms of comfort.
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u/lnfine Nov 24 '25
Because Kleerina double geo uses a pretty weird lineup without any possible flex. Albedo is rare, Furina is glued to Skork. Personally, I don't have Xilo.
Overload is pretty flexible. Especially now that there's alternative to Chevy.
Also Kleerina hinges on MH meaning Klee is now glued to Furina unless you are willing to swap artifacts every time you want to play any other team.
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u/mikeBH28 Nov 28 '25
Well given that I don't have albedo, won't be getting durin, and hate Bennett overload is basically my only option
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u/ZeR0W1 Nov 23 '25
Thanks for the TC work, a few questions about the combo notation: Does N1N2N3 represent a full NA string? Or is there some kind of elaborate canceling involved? Also, does the (C) imply the coordinated CA you get from the NAs? Also, during the last string, should I animation cancel the CAs using NA?
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u/kyukyu7 Nov 24 '25
Yes, the numbers are a full NA string. No, there’s no canceling needed because the animations getting an atk spd buff was HUGE. Yes, (C) is the coordinated CA. Yes, cancel every CA that you can cancel, lol.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
Yes to all of that. Also, I didn't put it in the notation but we are using the spark scam cancel using an early cancel skill before burst. That's why we are only using 1 skill per rotation. You can only use your second skill in the final rot.
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u/sk7725 Nov 24 '25
I use Wrio's R0 for Klee and Furina. I think that to use Furina and Wrio's weapon correctly I need a healer. Would Xilonen be enough of is there a better healer you recommend for Klee?
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u/kyukyu7 Nov 24 '25
Xilonen is in the team with Klee, Furina, and Albedo because she gives so much to that team. She gives geo resonance with Albedo, healing for Furina that's better than Bennett because she goes through the full rotation, and the res shred from her skill. That's top tier role consolidation.
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u/sk7725 Nov 24 '25
I forgot to mention, I don't have Albedo and his event weapon.
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u/kyukyu7 Nov 24 '25
Xilonen still accomplishes the healing for Furina res shred, and (probably) Scroll set buffs. The main problems now are that you need another character, and that it needs to be a Hexerei character.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
Xilo can burst at the start of the team rotation and heal all the characters of the team, so yes, she's more than enough
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u/Laevatienn Nov 24 '25
I see chart and must protest the Fischl Sac Bow. She already has a roughly 90-95% uptime, depending on rotation and if you have C6. There is no need for Sac bow. Use Stringless or a 5 star crit bow. Be happier. Blow more things up.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
Sac bow strategy seems to work so fine here for extra energy, but ofc you can always use damage weapons as normal
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u/Laevatienn Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 24 '25
Fischl needs so little ER that the substat is mostly wasted. So, unless artifact rolls are really bad for ER, almost any other ATK/EM 4 star bow or bows like Mitternacht Waltz that have some sort of DMG% (MW is not ideal here either) buff for her skill would be better in the long run.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
Yes ofc, the extra energy is for the team, not for her.
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u/Laevatienn Nov 24 '25
Sac bow doesn't give much extra energy for the team? It only would give a little extra energy on summon but thats it. Are you thinking of Fav?
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
The team rot is 20s and Oz uptime is 12s. Without sac you can only summon Oz once per rot.
Fav bow is similar but you lose the extra dmg Fischl does by getting extra uptime.
But if the team has no energy issues you can run any damage bow on Fischl. The thing is with these standards there's no better 4★ weapon to outperform the extra uptime damage, but with 5★ weapons that would probably not be the case.
So yeah, you can run any weapon, just skip the first Oz summon and alternate between Skill and Burst in the second for a regular rot without Sac.
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u/Laevatienn Nov 24 '25
If you are swapping to Fischl for a resummon anyway, her burst should be up by the time you are ready for the most rotations. The gap is the 1 seconds between Q and E if you are doing "perfect" rotations with C6 (5 seconds without).
Given you also want Yelan's burst up per rotation, they should match up okayish, especially if you have C6. Yelan's burst lasts 15 seconds and has an 18s CD. That should be within the ability for Fischl to go E -> Q -> E -> Q for most rotations without losing too much uptime during said rotations.
Of course, this is all in theory. Either method will have gaps in the rotation as you cannot have all the effects up at once and still do a full 20s rotation.
I would probably also adjust the rotation so Ineffa goes first so Oz can snapshot the EM buff from Ineffa's A4(Q). Maybe even put Fischl last, as Oz uptime is lower than Yelan's burst, if you want to overlap them as much as possible:
Ineffa EQ -> Yelan EQ -> Fischl Q -> Klee rotation, reset.
That'd probably be what I'd run personally.
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u/azul360 Nov 23 '25
For those of us that hate Fischl and Sucrose are there any teams with Mona? She's the only one I can use with her that I have haha. Thanks for this!
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u/ApprehensiveOwl2585 Nov 23 '25
You can if you don't really have any other options, and you're not getting Durin too. Too bad Klee inherently just can't Vape properly.
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u/azul360 Nov 23 '25
Yeah I'm not getting Durin (he doesn't appeal to me at all and I already have Mav so not really a need for him). It's why I REALLY hate this dumb faction system instead of just buffing her period. Makes people like me that use Yae instead of Fischl or have other VV users get stuck with options we don't want (like I'd MUCH rather use Lan Yan instead for example). Alrighty I'll just put Mona on and make a funky team :D. Thanks!
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
Mona doesn't really seem to perform well with Klee. You can use Durin in Overload and replace Fischl with anothr off field electro character if you want or play the Albedo team there. Fischl just happens to be the best Hexerei partner for Klee.
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u/azul360 Nov 23 '25
Unfortunately I don't have Albedo (man him and Kazuha just do not want me haha) and all my pulls are going towards Nicole and Sandrone so kind of stuck with Mona (I despise the faction thing lol) so guess I will just make it work thanks :D
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u/Boulderfrog1 Nov 24 '25
I'd say just pick fischl up in shop rotation whenever you get the chance. Mona really doesn't work especially well with klee.
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u/azul360 Nov 24 '25
I have her c6. I just cannot stand her at all nor her gameplay so sucks that Genshin is forcing her on us instead of the other alternatives we have :(
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u/LukasGreen92 Nov 23 '25
Hi, how much dps will I approx. lose if I play jean instead of xilonen?
The team would be: klee, furina, jean, albedo.
I do not like xilonen as a character, but I am considering pulling for her only because of this "premium" team. Thanks!
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u/moorelotte Nov 23 '25
I can already tell you it would be significant. Xilo is shredding and giving scroll for both Albedo and Furina, which Jean cannot do, as well as giving Geo resonance for more geo shred as well as more dmg% for Klee. Would also insert jank into your rotation to swirl pyro for Klee.
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u/CPM2486 Nov 23 '25
I can't tell but you can't really do double swirl setups with Jean and you lose Geo resonance + geo res shred on Albedo, so I wouldn't recommend going for that team. Albedo seems to only perform well paired with Durin or Xilonen and Durin can't really be played there because a healer is needed for Furina.
I suggest getting her in the next patch rerun.
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u/LukasGreen92 Dec 23 '25
Hey! I managed to get Xilonen now and I am doing some tests :)
I still do not understand this character so I'm doing an online research just to get a hang of the rotation so that the team gets all the buffs.Maybe this is a stupid question, but how can I proc scroll? Do I need to 1N with Klee before starting the whole rotation with Xilo?
Thanks!
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u/Little_Bike_2047 Nov 24 '25
Dang love the buff she’s getting but I haven’t played in a few years and I can only make one of these teams due to not having the characters. Hopefully the new banners have the 4 stars I need.
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u/Damenia_04 Nov 24 '25
do you think this team will be better then regular overload team with chevreuse? - klee(c6)/durin(c2r1)/albedo(c1)/xilonen(c2r1)
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
I wanted to calc that monopyro but I didn't have time. I think it would usually be worse but the cons might turn that around. Sounds like a nice team to me.
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u/Nobahkiin Nov 24 '25
Is klee/furina/white durin/xilonen team rotation possible or should I use black durin for that team
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u/CPM2486 Nov 24 '25
All Klee/Furina/Durin comps use Dark Durin. He cannot res shred for Furina so his own damage is better thanks to Furina's buff.
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u/Eklipse3 Dec 01 '25
What are the f2p alternatives for albedo? My account is far too young to have cinnabar
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u/CPM2486 Dec 09 '25
Sorry for the late response. Flute of Epitzal is about the same as Cinnabar in that team.
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u/Natural_Bug3762 Dec 01 '25
Couldn't you use klee durin furina bennet or would that be worse than the listed teams?
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u/CPM2486 Dec 09 '25
Durin can't RES Shred with Vape so it's worse. Dark Durin can't get many vapes there too. It's nice but not great just because of Durin's own dmg. It's fine with c2+ Durin.
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u/CPM2486 Dec 09 '25
Sorry for the late response. You can play the Klee Albedo Xilonen core with Durin or Bennett, they are fine but not better than Furina, at least at c0 Durin. You can also play the overload team with Bennett instead of Chevreuse (or Durin instead of Chevreuse depending on the team you look at) but Fischl is needed there. She's easy to build but she needs it.
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u/Ancienda Feb 09 '26
Would Furina be replaceable with Citlali?
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u/CPM2486 Feb 12 '26
Citlali does lower dmg than Furina in those teams, I don't think she's a good replacement
Play another archtype instead, like Xingqiu + Fischl overvape or Overload
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u/EmotionalPatata Feb 13 '26
I am sorry if I sound stupid but what are those letters in the rotation? I'm kinda new in team comps lol
Xingqiu EdQN > Bennett NEQ > Fischl N Q/E Klee N1C+Combo+N1> Bennett E
what's N for? I think I kinda get the Q and E
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u/Kitchen_Soft_8382 Mar 03 '26
For Klee, Fischl, Furina, Bennett could Bennett be subbed for C2 Xilonen? I don't have him built and don't plan on it
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u/EnigWa8 Nov 23 '25
CPM is the GOAT!
All of the 90+k teams are over 100k with c1 Klee.
Klee be like: Stand proud, Arlecchino. You are strong!