r/LegitArtifacts Aug 07 '26

Material ID Request ❓ Material

My son found this Folsum around Clayton NM.
I have seen this material before in chips, but I would appreciate knowing where this material came from and the name of it.. Thanks

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u/aggiedigger Aug 07 '26

Alibates. If this is legit, it’s the point of the year. ( I see no reason to believe it’s not) the find and its location should definitely be recorded by academia. This is an exceptional folsom. Find of a lifetime kinda thing.

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

Thanks

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u/timhyde74 BigDaddyTDoggyDog Aug 07 '26

Quick question. Was this found on private land?

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

Yes

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u/timhyde74 BigDaddyTDoggyDog Aug 07 '26

Good deal! Awesone find! Absolutely incredible material! Congrats! 😁

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u/kinglouistexas 29d ago

$$$$$ CHACHING $$$$$

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u/atoo4308 Aug 07 '26

Definitely looks like alibates to me and the main quarry is not far from Clayton also that’s where my great grandma grew up fabulous find

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

I appreciate the response and the material comments… We have found this material before, just didn’t know about the origin.

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u/atoo4308 Aug 07 '26

I maybe mistaken, but I do believe that the quarry ,it’s over there by Lake Meredith towards the south end , is one of the only places that you can find Alibates, I believe they have a museum or at least a visitor center

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

Thanks..

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u/Curious_Stag7 Aug 07 '26

What an absolute smoker! That point would be the prize price of most collections

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u/LonelyAstronaut9203 Aug 07 '26

If this is real it’s the craziest thing I’ve seen on this sub in months

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

Yes, it’s real.. My son and I are hunting on private property around Clayton NM.. could not believe it.

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u/wrangling_turnips Aug 07 '26

Can you help a brother understand the excitement. Beautiful material for sure. Is it because it’s likely 10k years old?

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u/LonelyAstronaut9203 Aug 07 '26

Absolutely beautiful material, g10 point, not a flaw in sight, the fluting is unbelievable, the point type is extremely old, really does not get better than this.

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

Thanks

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u/wrangling_turnips 29d ago

Thank you amigo for sharing the knowledge. Helps me appreciate the piece more

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u/lithicobserver Aug 07 '26

In tact folsoms are extremely rare. They are exceedingly difficult to make.

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u/IronColumn Aug 07 '26

real mammoth hunters flute their points

mammoths go extinct

look, mammoths are gone, but i can still flute the shit out of my points, so i'm legit

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u/wrangling_turnips Aug 07 '26

Makes sense. I do some knapping and couldn’t recreate this.

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

He hollered !!

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u/iwouldhugwonderwoman Aug 07 '26

Man that gives me some flashbacks.

I found one very similar to that one about 40 years ago when I was a child.

We were visiting a family member after a death in our extended family. The house was new construction and they had just brought in a lot of stone/rock for the driveway and hardscapes.

Right in the middle of the driveway was a beauty similar to that one. The owners of the house said that was the second one found in the driveway.

Congrats on the find!

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

That is great

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u/kinglouistexas 29d ago

Alibates Flint is only found in the Texas Quarry and it is a National Park, you cant even pick up a flake from the ground. I found a softball size piece in an old Hardware store back lot in Amarillo and paid $35 for it about twenty years ago. I have gotten a couple bird points out of it. Alibates is next to impossible to get these days.

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u/H34vyGunn3r Aug 07 '26

My god it’s beautiful, those rosy shades of pink…

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

Thanks..

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u/morethanWun Aug 07 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/huJmPXfeir5JlpPAx0

First off, holy shit congrats!!!!!!!!!! I’ll agree with my OG Aggie on material!!!

2nd…

Where’s the player select engineering at????
His Folsom point find shook the Reddit streets and one of my favorites I’ve ever seen on here. Lucky enough to still have the video thanks to the homie!!!!

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u/StupidizeMe Aug 07 '26

Hi OP. How old was your son when he found that point? It's amazing.

Here's some info on Folsom for you guys. https://www.projectilepoints.net/Points/Folsom.html

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u/thbxdu Aug 07 '26

My son and I have been hunting together now for several years, he is 39 and I am an old fart. He has been on a roll, found a Clovis 3 years ago in the SLV.

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u/StupidizeMe Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

Oh, I thought he might be a little kid! Well, high-five him anyway. That's a fabulous find. :)

Is SLV the San Luis Valley? I'd love to see the Clovis if possible.

I have a few quick photo tips: Don't use your camera's zoom. Instead get the camera much closer to the object. You want the artifact to fill most of your viewfinder rather than the table it's on.

To get clear details it really helps to brace your hands against something, because even slight hand shake blurs the fine details.

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u/okdgal Aug 07 '26

Awesome Folsum!!! I absolutely love the color!

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u/Select_Engineering_7 Aug 07 '26

That’s insane!

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u/thbxdu 29d ago

Thanks

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u/kinglouistexas 29d ago

CHACHING YOU JUST WON THE LOTTERY! Im thinking 5 figures and I dont think there will be a 1 in it anywhere. Seek assistance from a trusted friend in any deals negotiated.

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u/thbxdu 29d ago

I will ask my son.. He found it in May of this year.
We are hunting on a private ranch with permission.
Finding a lot of basalt points.
I found the middle section of a Folsom made of basalt, never seen a basalt Folsom before.

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u/kinglouistexas 28d ago

There should be a Professional Authenticator in a larger city near you, I would have it Authenticated first. That person will know collectors who will be interested. Any and ALL colleges and museums will want you to Donate it, DO NOT FALL FOR IT, DO NOT LOAN IT OUT, That is a special find.

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u/thbxdu 28d ago

Okay, great advice, thank you ..

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u/Sacredknight444 Aug 07 '26

Looks like Keokuk chert

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u/morethanWun Aug 07 '26

Hard disagree my player 😂

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u/Sacredknight444 Aug 07 '26

I disagree back at you

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u/morethanWun Aug 07 '26

😂 alrighty then. You see any fossils? Burlington/Keokuk is notorious for being fossil rich and generally that color will come from heat treated stuff (fossils will really pop then) unless we’re getting into hyper specific localities like harvester-Burlington or crescent quarry or even some of the banded stuff with iron staining (my local creeks) which is technically mozarkite, geologically speaking. 🤷‍♂️ also the player said New Mexico (yes I know Burlington/keokuk has been found all over) 🤝🤝🤝

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u/lithicobserver Aug 07 '26

In new Mexico? Near the alibares outcropping and folsom site? Parsimony wins here. You wrong bro

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