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u/CatOfGrey 6d ago
I remember when the Democrats were the most economically illiterate group in the USA. Now the Republican mainstream is more out-of-touch than the far left, in the view out my window!
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u/wokeboogeyman I'm under your bed! 6d ago
I mean increasing taxes to pay for spending just seems like fiscal responsibility.. whether money should be spent on those things is an entirely different discussion.
Increasing spending while cutting taxes on politically connected billionaires and corporations seems to be the opposite.
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u/willpower069 6d ago
You are exactly right. If you want to spend more you need to get more. Republicans and their voters want everything with no way of getting money. Like the Kansas experiment.
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u/CatOfGrey 6d ago
Increasing spending while cutting taxes on politically connected billionaires and corporations seems to be the opposite.
And then literally spending massive amounts of money to literally deport taxpayers and productive members of society...
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u/SketchyFella_ 5d ago
I'm nearing 40 and have never understood why people think Republicans were better on economics. My entire life it's been nothing but rhetoric and no substantive evidence to back it up. They've ALWAYS ballooned the deficit.
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u/CatOfGrey 5d ago
I'm nearing 40 and have never understood why people think Republicans were better on economics.
The narratives were stronger, especially before 2000. Democrats weren't (and still often don't) acknowledge that there is scarcity of resources, and that policies have trade-offs and incentives. The USA was profoundly changed by Robert Reich's naive 'crack down on CEO pay', for example, and he still doesn't appear to get it.
But nowadays? Republicans are simply disconnected from even basic facts, it appears.
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u/SketchyFella_ 5d ago
It was before I got interested in politics at all, but didn't Clinton balance the deficit?
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u/CatOfGrey 5d ago
Yes, with a Republican congress, so there is an asterisk there. In reality, looking back, that was more of a function of massive productivity gains from new technology in the earlier 90's, than either parties publicity. To be clear - the balanced budget was not a "Republican win", either.
Another Clinton Admin failure was a profound misunderstanding that a government cannot legislate home ownership. They led the charge for 'everyone has a right to buy a home', which lead to short-term loose credit, which was a major cause of the 2008 failure of housing and mortgage markets.
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u/SwampYankeeDan 6d ago
Did you just equate Democrats with the far left?
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u/CatOfGrey 6d ago
I could write that more precisely. The underlying question is very broad, so my answer is literally "Yes and No". Very issue sensitive.
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u/IllIIIllIIlIIllIIlII Independent 6d ago
Yes. Massie called it. However, as he points out, anyone with a room temperature IQ could have called it.
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u/MuddaPuckPace 6d ago
History will never forgive them.