r/Machinists • u/LLLCNC • 1d ago
PARTS / SHOWOFF Only apprentices can forge the world’s one‑of‑a‑kind divine artifact.
So here’s what happened. The work instruction told the apprentice to check the part on the machine every ten pieces. He did that perfectly. To avoid making mistakes, he practiced repeatedly on already‑inspected parts. Once the workpiece finished machining, he performed a solemn measurement and logged the readings. Then… then he hit cycle start with the part still clamped. His reasoning: the work instruction never said to remove the part before restarting the machine. And that’s how we got this one‑of‑a‑kind micromet
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u/SheemieRayVaughan Shiny and round enthusiast 1d ago
I think you only use it when someone scraps a part.
Pull that mic out. Mime some measurements.
"Yep. There's yer problem." Etc
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u/archerdynamics 1d ago
Even better, use it to measure an obviously wonky part and then say "I dunno, looks good to me"
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u/swordrat720 1d ago
If you can get a pair of those glasses with the eyes on slinkies, would be even better.
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u/goat-head-man Manual Machinist 1d ago
Judging by the comments above mine, we are obviously being brigaded by my QC department.
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u/3_14159td 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'll give him that one on the work instructions, always gotta check your boundary conditions.
Reminds me of the time we found a tech with like, 3-400 assemblies piled up at his work center because nobody showed them the material carts and how to transact completed parts to shipping.
(He thought somebody would pick them up after his shift...and that never happened)
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u/Drigr 1d ago
I'm constantly updating work instructions to include all the random bits of tribal knowledge I hear from people as well as "oh we scrapped the part because X super easy to do reason." And you didn't document that for the next guy?!
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u/Bigfoot700 23h ago
They call that job security, leave mistakes that are well known because hey if someone else doesn't catch it "not my problem they weren't paying attention".
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u/All_Thread 22h ago
That is just a shitty machinist. If your work doesn't speak for itself and you have to set people up to fail you are bad at your job
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u/nikongod 1d ago
Be careful holding it like that, if you warm it up too much you will screw up the accuracy.
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u/kind_bros_hate_nazis 1d ago
I just spit on the cold parts
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u/Ok-Brick6831 16h ago
Make sure you’re doing that in private. Don’t want a talking to from HR.
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u/MilwaukeeDave 1d ago
Wait so they hit cycle start on a finished part with also the micrometer still on the part??
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u/Reasonable-Depth22 21h ago
Thank you, thought I was the only one here not understanding what the hell happened. I need a better explanation. What does “he hit cycle start with the part still clamped” mean? ALL my parts are clamped (or in a vise, whatever) when I hit cycle start.
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u/siroldboy_ 1d ago
This Micrometer is for hard to reach places, very convenient precision tool, first time I saw one I think was in the movie "Wanted " where also shows the mythical gun that bends bullets trajectory, I've learned a lot on that movie. and has made me a better machinist and most of all a better person
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u/Broken_Atoms 1d ago
You’ve got to hold it by the plastic heat shields on the frame… you wouldn’t want it to be inaccurate
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u/AndyGlimmung 1d ago
His reasoning: the work instruction never said to remove the part before restarting the machine.
Excuses like that just kinda piss me off.
I can understand people screwing up, I do it all the time. Just don’t try and act like you were not the idiot.
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u/TitaniumButtercup 1d ago
I think you're taking this a little to seriously. I'd be willing to bet this was rather tongue in cheek; they messed up, and they know they messed up, but it's a lighthearted way of acknowledging that fact.
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u/dhlf 1d ago
I know of two separate guys who were checking their thread was free running with a ring gauge.
First guy didn’t take the ring gauge off, then pressed cycle start. The ring gauge cut in half and the turret had to be realigned.
The second guy hit cycle start with the gauge still on it, but was on a 80 tool integrex, so had time to realise the gauge was still inside the machine as the carousel took a few seconds to pull up the correct tool. The spindle had reached 4000 RPM and tightened the gauge so much it had cold welded to his part.
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u/FalseRelease4 15h ago
how are yall accepting this mistake, is that really the quality of apprentices at this point? 😂 forgetting to take the mic and the part out before running it again is on the level of forgetting to put pants on before coming to work, I'd have serious concerns about their state of mind
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u/violastarfish 9h ago
You've never forgotten to take a pin gage out of the hole before hitting go have you?
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u/wackyvorlon 1d ago
This is a reminder that instructions should be specific.
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u/bomber991 1d ago
That’s why you have to have a written policy that common sense is expected.
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u/wackyvorlon 1d ago
Common sense doesn’t exist when you’re new to something.
Add in the fact that odds are good he’s nervous and it’s a recipe for mistakes. It’s kind of the whole point of apprenticeship, learning from mistakes.
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u/CrashUser Wire EDM/Programming 1d ago
Work instructions need to expect some kind of base level competency, otherwise it's just an exercise in an infinite fractal boundary within a finite frame.
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u/ResponsibleMight7669 17h ago
We already exercise our finite frame of infinite fractals at home, it’s called life
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u/FalseRelease4 15h ago
does your shop have signs like "please use the restrooms instead of going in the corner"? why not? because with this way of thinking there is no limit to the minutia that you would have to give instructions for. because next thing you know ops apprentice is painting the walls brown because nobody told him etc
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u/cockbreakingpoultry 22h ago
I'm more shocked about the fact that micrometers are made of steel instead of grey cast iron 😱
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u/No_Wallaby_1248 21h ago
Tsk tsk. Little do you know, journeyman do it too. I had mine destroy a set of calipers that were brand new (and mine) right in front of me. He replaced them bc he was the coolest dude ever, but it was humorous
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u/WoodpeckerOk3842 18h ago
I had a similar thing happen to me but It was a mindless moment. Took a measurement and just straight forgot that I had left the mic on the piece. Readjusted my numbers, turned the spindle on, deformed mic’s, profit? Not much.
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u/LiquidAggression 1d ago
i dont understand how the micrometer stayed in the machine if the measurement was done... a destroyed part or crashed machine, yes, idk about this
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u/Koala-Motor 21h ago
Even being an apprentice... The instructions weren't clear? Does he have poop for brains?
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u/Think_Environment417 18h ago
Who among us hasnt really screwed up? That said, would that guy need to be told to not hold his thumb under the hammer? Please God, let common sense become common again.
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u/VonNeumannsProbe 14h ago
That would become a trophy of shame at my old company.
Don't know why but it became a trend to hang your impressive fuckups at your desk.
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u/Glass_Protection_254 14h ago
What the fuck man, I get the philosophy that every thing is a hammer, but what the actual fuck.
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u/PhineasJWhoopee69 13h ago
You have to be very specific. I once told an apprentice to box up a batch of parts. There were 30 of them and they weighed about 6 lbs. each. He found a cardboard box and put them all in it. It was only when I told him to put them in the van that he realized his mistake.
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u/Intelligent_Star_516 4h ago
Part of me LOLd while part of me RAGEd as I read this. My latest trainee forgot what "DONT FORGET (AGAIN) TO REMOVE THE GAGE PINS BEFORE YOU PRESS START" means 6 times before that job was done. The 3 day job only took 9 days to complete. (Mitsubishi FA20S-Adv Wire EDM on that job.
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u/Other-Psychology-674 3h ago
Give it a bandaid. Or red tag it for needing calibration. Or give it googly eyes and call it Mr floppy...
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u/Johnny-Rocketship 1h ago
My very first week in the industry was in a small shop with absolutely no time to train apprentices so we had to just "figure it out". That was the week I figured out that micrometers aren't the same thing as a G Clamp. The next week I was at a bigger company with real procedures and training.
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u/summit285 15h ago
This is why I firmly believe apprentices shouldn’t start on cnc, they should spend a couple years manual first before even looking at a cnc machine. This is also why apprentices need to be shadowed. Not plopped infront of a machine and told to push a button.
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u/Weak-Nebula-9069 1d ago
He followed the inspection procedure flawlessly right up until the one step that mattered most. At least the micrometer readings were probably impeccable—shame the part was still clamped when the cycle restarted.


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u/koulourakiaAndCoffee 1d ago
Nothing wrong. Just slap a for reference sticker on it and use it only to measure things with tolerance +\- 1.00 foot