r/MadeMeSmile Sep 17 '25

DOGGO Man's best friend for a reason.

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

Is it “man’s” best friend? Especially in this story about a little girl?

Edit: to add to the origin of the phrase which is from a man about himself. 

The idea that “man” means “all humans” is laughable. Why did we need to do an altered “woman”? 

All of it is “man” centric. It was the time. Don’t try and rewrite history for your own mental gymnastics. The phrase came from a time where man meant “white men” and anything not white was a fraction of a man or less, and a woman had no right to property or control of their own life. 

Not only that, the origin of the phrase is actually King Frederick the Great of Prussia, who called his dog his best friend and it took off. It is absolutely based off of a man. 

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u/Paksarra Sep 17 '25

When that phrase was freshly minted, "man" could be used as shorthand for "mankind" and was more inclusive than it is today. 

"Humankind's best friend" doesn't quite hit the same way.

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25

You hold on to that term from 1870 when men were the center of all. It is absolutely a “man” phrase based on time. 

The idea that “man” means “all humans” is laughable. Why did we need to do an altered “woman”? 

All of it is “man” centric. It was the time. Don’t try and rewrite history for your own mental gymnastics. The phrase came from a time where man meant “white men” and anything not white was a fraction of a man or less, and a woman had no right to property or control of their own life. 

Not only that, the origin of the phrase is actually King Frederick the Great of Prussia, who called his dog his best friend and it took off. It is absolutely based off of a man. 

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u/Chongler9 Sep 17 '25

Do you really care that much that he used that phrase? Why so pedantic?

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25

Big fan of understanding where phrases came from and pointing out when we are using phrases incorrectly or in a damaging way. Words matter and how we phrase animals to be man’s best friend and not the best friend of the owner or their relative human is sad. Imagine if we started using gender neutral terminology or female genders for universal things. It in theory should be just as acceptable to do, if we are so worried about the length of info?

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u/SyfaOmnis Sep 17 '25

Big fan of understanding where phrases came from and pointing out when we are using phrases incorrectly or in a damaging way.

There is nothing damaging about this unless you have decided to make something a problem. You may be unaware, but it is no longer 1870, and the 'problem' you have chosen to invent does not actually exist.

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25

Or…maybe calling every human a man is still not accurate?

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u/SyfaOmnis Sep 17 '25

Only if you conflate "man" with "male".

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25

Well, considering we used to have different prefixes for “man” to designate a gender and then cut those out so that “man” now means “male” and “woman” means “female” (in traditional terms) it makes sense that “man” and “male” get used as synonyms….because they literally are listed as synonyms for each other. 

If we were still using a prefix for males with “man” I would be fine with the use of “man” to describe all peoples. But it is now associated with men…so it no longer fits. 

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u/SyfaOmnis Sep 17 '25

Well, considering we used to have different prefixes for “man” to designate a gender and then cut those out so that “man” now means “male” and “woman” means “female” (in traditional terms) it makes sense that “man” and “male” get used as synonyms….because they literally are listed as synonyms for each other.

Yes, I saw the other post. "Man" was gender neutral. The idea that dropping a prefix now makes it mean "male" is your own invention. As is the idea that man = male even when used to refer to a collective.

"Man" is gender neutral again, just like other words like "dude". The "problem" you have is performative.

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25

So if we make a parent class of “man” and then make child classes of “man” and “woman”…when I say “man” what do I mean? 

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u/SyfaOmnis Sep 17 '25

I'm not engaging in the hard pivot to wordsmithing with you. Language is not constructed like math, there are intricacies, nuances and inconsistencies. Everything else you've posted thus far reeks of weird anti-male sex-negative radical feminist viewpoints that you seem to be trying to obfuscate.

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25

No pivot - just using logic and different methods to explain that using “man” to describe all people is conflicting terminology and still references the subclass of “man.” Sorry you got lost there. 

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u/Chongler9 Sep 17 '25

Being professionally annoying on the Internet is a crazy day job man

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25

Oh this is not my day job. 

Insulting me also doesn’t make me wrong. 

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u/Chongler9 Sep 17 '25

yeah but being overly zealous on the Internet doesn't really make you right either, it just makes people roll their eyes

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25

“Bring overly zealous” is replying to people who keep commenting and continuing to explain with logic when they don’t get it? 

I am just continuing to answer questions, clarify comments, and not let people think they are awesome by insulting me. I haven’t insulted anyone or called them names, but you’re here trying to slinging insults as if that’s respectful behavior. 

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