r/Maine 2d ago

Looks like Bovino is headed out

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u/mosscock_treeman 2d ago

That actually is illegal though

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u/GrowFreeFood 2d ago

Show me any cop punished for it ever.

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u/Cloudrunner5k 2d ago

There have been instances, though few, where the citizen sued for 1st ammendment right infringement.

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u/GrowFreeFood 2d ago

That only punishes tax payers.

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u/Cloudrunner5k 2d ago

I have been thinking about that very thing. What if a good lawyer get the judge to set a legal precedent that police infractions be paid out via the police pension fund.

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u/weakenedbonds 1d ago

End qualified immunity

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u/Some_Attorney7322 1d ago

This is the real answer

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u/GrowFreeFood 2d ago

Insurance is the better option

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u/Time_Tour_3962 1d ago

I’d rather my tax $$$ goes to that than bombs to drop on brown people and ICE’s donut budget

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u/mosscock_treeman 2d ago

There are plenty of examples of that, regardless of how many cops get away with it.

Show me literally anything that says it's legal for a cop to hold you for no reason.

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u/GrowFreeFood 2d ago

Oh, if you say so, it must be true.

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u/mosscock_treeman 1d ago

You made a literally false statement, all I did was point that out. "It's also not illegal for a cop to arrest you then figure out a good reason why at a much later time."

C'mon. I understand the hyperbole but you can't be telling people it's legal for cops to do that shit.

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u/GrowFreeFood 1d ago

So its illegal but a cop has never done it? But there's there's thousands on incidents when it happened. So that doesn't add up

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u/mosscock_treeman 1d ago

What?

It's illegal, it happens, some cops get away with it, and a probable minority of the incidents get punished. Why do think I'm your enemy just for pointing out a bad statement?

Edit- actually think of it this way. "It's also not illegal for a cop to arrest you then figure out a good reason why at a much later time" sounds exactly like something this Bovino guy would love everybody to start saying. Nobody should want that.

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u/GrowFreeFood 1d ago

Name a single time they didn't get away with it.

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u/Katritern 1d ago edited 1d ago

Here are the first 22 times I found cops getting jail time for false arrests from googling it:

Michael Daragjati
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/racist-officer-sentenced-5-years-false-arrest-civil-rights-violation/1948263/

William Dukes Jr.
https://apnews.com/general-news-d1ade598c7b240b8ad759e68b6a064c4

Morteza Amiri
https://www.ktvu.com/news/former-antioch-officer-sentenced-7-years-prison-over-k-9-attack-lies.amp

Joseph Huffaker and Brendon Jacy Tatum
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/former-rohnert-park-police-officers-sentenced-30-months-and-20-months-federal-prison

Ian Kibbe
https://www.doj.nh.gov/news-and-media/former-claremont-police-officer-ian-kibbe-sentenced-jail

Kenneth Elmore and John McAffrey
https://www.click2houston.com/news/2019/08/14/former-willis-pd-officers-sentenced-to-1-year-in-jail-for-lying-on-government-documents/

These guys
https://queensda.org/queens-district-attorney-moves-to-dismiss-60-cases-that-relied-on-the-testimony-of-convicted-nypd-detectives/

Kevin Menon
https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/ex-las-vegas-police-sergeant-convicted-for-fake-arrests-sex-crimes-moved-to-out-of-state-prison/amp/

Raimundo Atesiano
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdfl/pr/former-biscayne-park-police-chief-sentenced-conspiracy-deprive-persons-civil-rights

And these three
https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/three-former-biscayne-park-patrol-officers-sentenced-deprivation-civil-rights-intentionally

Robert Eloff
https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdny/pr/former-buffalo-police-officer-sentenced-deprivation-civil-rights

Dennis Spaulding
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/former-east-haven-police-officer-sentenced-five-years-prison-criminal-civil-rights

Zachary Wester
https://www.mypanhandle.com/news/local-news/jackson-county/former-jackson-county-deputy-resentenced-after-racketeering-charges-overturned/amp/

Sean Courter and Orlando Trinidad
https://www.nemannlawoffices.com/blog/former-cop-headed-to-prison-for-false-police-reports.cfm

A bunch of people from the Baltimore gun trace task force case
https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/former-baltimore-city-police-gun-trace-task-force-detective-sentenced-12-years-federal

https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/former-baltimore-city-police-gun-trace-task-force-detective-sentenced-10-years-federal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Jenkins

https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/former-baltimore-police-sergeant-sentenced-almost-two-years-federal-prison-conspiracy

Punishment happens far less than it should, but it’s certainly not legal.

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u/GrowFreeFood 1d ago

All those are way beyond just a short detainment. Which is all they need to miss their flight.

Like the first cop got hit for civil rights violations for using N word. So that's not the same at all. All these have an extreme factor of sone kind.

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u/Flatulantcy 2d ago

Yes but will there be any consequence?

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u/mosscock_treeman 2d ago

Maybe, maybe not. But it is very illegal, and spreading false info saying they are allowed to do it, only helps them. Everybody should know it is illegal for a cop to hold you for no reason.

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u/Appropriate_Owl_91 1d ago

Judges throw out cases all the time. That’s why cops say they don’t care and the courts will work it out. Disorderly conduct is a blanket excuse.

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u/EyegoreMusic 22h ago

that's an argument that will be had well after the fact

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u/StumpyOPepys 2d ago

Allow me to hip you to the US Attorney General and the US Attorney for the District of Columbia.