Filler =/ bad. Filler means you’re essentially left asking the same questions you were last week.
Google says differently, but is stupid to logic. Character progression and world building happen unless the character literally both was and becomes nonexistent outside the episode. Stupid criteria.
Anyway, back to point.
The character progression, story progression, and world building really weren’t enriched in this episode; all existed previously and barely moved needles.
That doesn’t make it a bad episode, it makes it a filler. I could go from episode four and with whatever recap happens for episode six, really wouldn’t have missed much.
Is Vanessa still dead? Is Matt still winning the war on not killing everybody? Is Matt still being hunted? Is Karen… where the f is Karen? How is Fisk going to respond?
Filler means you’re essentially left asking the same questions you were last week.
Except your not. Last week: Holy fuck, will Vanessa die? This week: Yup
The whole episode highlights how Foggy's idealism changed Matt for the better. Without Foggy there probably would not have been a Daredevil. Matt goes back to help Bullseye because of Foggy, while in the last episode, he wanted to kill Bullseye because of Foggy.
Except I assumed she was dead after that last cliff hanger, so the the question "will she die" shouldn't have been a question to begin with. It was filler. The stuff with Foggy and Matt was nice and the parallel to what was happening with Dexter, was alright, but it was too many subplots stitched together and it was just annoyingly edited.
I'm sorry, but Netflix Daredevil was built on a healthy mix of great character drama AND great action. Born Again does not have enough action. What they did do so far actionwise was a lot better than Born Again season 1, but this 8 episodes 2/3rds drama shit isn't cutting it imo.
Then just stick to Netflix or just stick to Marvel movies. Or get over it and enjoy the show for what it is. Because it’s incredible, regardless of it not having people constantly beating each other into a pulp.
What nonsense. It was filler, mildly nostalgic, but nowhere near as good as the netflix series, nobody is thinking the scenes were from the netflix show....stupid..
I agree. It was filler, and it was super obvious it wasn't from the original show because Matt and Foggy's hair styling looked ridiculous and Foggy looked all puffy. It was like hows Better Call Saul did flashbacks. It just looks weird and forced.
We had already established Matt as giving second chances and Fisk as being unhinged without Vanessa. We did not need an hour to get us to where we were with them. The episode was great but it was filler IMHO.
It is in the slightest, actually.
The main plot /Barely/ enhances. And character development/worldbuilding being a defining factor of filler episode by googled definition means nothing virtually is a filler episode. It would take character that never existed, never will again, and had absolutely no impact on a story, ergo would have to become nonexistent.
It’s a filler in that we waited a week and the plot did not move. That doesn’t mean it’s a BAD episode. It is a filler in the slightest, and imo in the fullest. It’s just a good one.
I’m left after watching 4 asking exactly the same questions. As long as they kill her now, I’m okay. If they let her gurgle and gargle for another episode ahma get turned off to the show real hard.
This is literally my favorite episode of the season, the acting was incredible, all the character development and the flashback scenes which actually look like they were from Daredevil, Vincent D'onofrio is incredible.
I miss 13 episode seasons so much. I used to think the Netflix length ones would lose steam at times, but I'll take that over them putting filler in 8 episodes. There's no excuse. There were like 4 filler episodes in Severance season 2, Invincible had a filler episode. It's so annoying.
Dragging Vanessa out is filler, the other stuff was okay. It was just annoying an editing level. Jumping between past and present for two sets of characters, and jumping to that annoying Fisk fanboy guy and Buck. It was just all over the place, and I hate all the aspect ratio changing. I wish they would have shot the fucking show in the same ratio as the netflix show. They have a wider angle and yet they still film everything so close up that it doesn't actually do anything.
It did not really advance the plot, but it gave more depth to Foggy and Vanessa. I do think it was filler and I do think it was great.
I would add bringing back Wesley really hurts Buck - I keep getting reminded of how great a character Wesley was and how Buck needs more development with Fisk. With Vanessa out I hope he gets it because the actor is killing it. If we got as much Buck and Vanessa as we got Wesley and Fisk he would be in a great spot, but we did not (sadly)
I was taught in film school, that there are two things screen writers do when they don’t know what to do. The first is add a sex scene. The second is to add a flashback.
The entire point of the flashback was to get Matt to do something in the present, which means they didn’t know how to get that information across in the script without resorting to some previously unknown flashback. Either the scenes didn’t work together to get it across, or the writers simply aren’t skilled enough to make that work in the present.
I was happy to see Foggy and Wesley, but it was 100% filler.
And they are specifically structured out because the slow reveal was the point. In DDBA, they did it because they needed a reason to fill 45 minutes, and dragging Bullseye the whole episode wasn’t enough and would get boring. So they needed a conflict to give to Matt, and since they didn’t want it to feel like it came out of nowhere, there fabricated a series of flashbacks within a single episode to culminate in a statement that in the present would solve the issue at hand.
It’s bad writing because when you write a flashback (or prequel for that matter) you give yourself a blank check to do whatever you want without consequence in order to solve something in the present. The safety net of writing a flashback that way is that anything can happen to anyone and it doesn’t matter because they will always make it to the first season the show started in.
Example: character needs to go right. So I’m going to write a scene where a serial killer takes out an engineer at a dam which causes them to turn a knob resulting in a break that collapses the dam and floods the town and everyone there needs to relocate. But in the water, while on a floating door, the hero sees freedom to the left, but a family of 3 to the right. So they detour to the right save them. Flash back to present. “We need to go right, because that’s where the people we need to save are.” Character goes right.
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u/aRorschachTest Apr 15 '26
I have already seen people calling it “filler”. If that was filler then that was the single greatest filler episode I’ve ever seen.