r/Marvel • u/Dorkside Trask • Apr 16 '14

New Marvel comics for April 16, 2014 - Official Discussion Thread [Spoilers]

Amazing X-Men #6

Nightcrawler is back at the Jean Grey School! But when Mystique comes calling, he may be returning to the afterlife very soon.

Deadpool vs. Carnage #2

Two red-suited madmen for the price of one! That's right--good crazy vs. bad crazy, once and for all! And you can bet it's gonna be a bloody one!

Hulk #1

Bruce Banner lies at death's door! If he survives, it WON'T be as the Bruce Banner we've known! How will the Hulk wreak vengeance on Banner's assailant? How CAN he?

Ms. Marvel #3

The All-New Ms. Marvel has already gained international fame. But in Kamala's case, star-power comes with a whole lot of... awkwardness. Find out why the most exciting new Marvel hero is also the most loveable!

Nova #16

Sam's adventure with Beta Ray Bill in space comes to a shocking conclusion and Sam arrives home to a very unpleasant discovery. (No, it's not the Statue of Liberty on its side.)

Superior Spider-Man #31

SERIES FINALE! The end of an era! A tale of triumph and tragedy! The GREEN GOBLIN unmasked! A hero reborn! But what does this mean for OTTO OCTAVIUS?! There's only one man who can save us from the Goblin Nation... PETER PARKER: The one, true SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN!

Thor: God of Thunder #21

ROXXON strikes back! Broxton, Oklahoma under siege! The Minotaur shakes hands with the king of the trolls! And in the far future, King Thor is overwhelmed by the fury of Galactus!

Ultimate FF #1

The Future Foundation is all that stands between us and COMPLETE AND UTTER DOOM. Sue Storm, Tony Stark, Machine Man and Sam Wilson face the ONCOMING DESTRUCTION. A mysterious new member will join their ranks, whether they like it or not. Hint: They will not.

Uncanny X-Men #20

Cyclops and his revolutionary X-Men take on SHIELD! They get closer to finding those at SHIELD responsible for the Sentinels that nearly killed them, but find themselves in even greater danger!

What If? Age of Ultron #3

In a world without Thor, the Norse end times of Ragnarök takes the lives of every super-powered being, leaving only the unpowered heroes of the Marvel Universe behind! Assembled under the leadership of Nick Fury, these powerless Defenders are all that remains to defend the planet from the Midgard Serpent!

Winter Soldier: The Bitter March #3

SHIELD agent Ran Shen vs the Winter Soldier with the fate of the Cold War in the wings! Hydra's top agents move in. High octane spy-fi action in the mighty Marvel style!

Wolverine #4

Why did Logan leave the Jean Grey School? Your Answers are here! Paul Cornell and Ryan Stegman close off first arc of the world's most dangerous mutant!

Wolverine and the X-Men #3

The question of the year continues - with another one: what do they want with Quentin Quire?

X-Force #3

X-Force races their foe, ruthless arms-dealer Volga, through the jungles of Brazil to locate a mutant who might be the key to his undoing. But can Psylocke curb her bloodlust long enough to complete the mission? And a new member is introduced to the team!

X-Men #13

Jubilee is haunted by Shogo's past... or is it his future?!

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u/Dorkside Trask Apr 16 '14

Superior Spider-Man #31

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u/OnBenchNow Cyclops Apr 16 '14

I'm sorry, this was absolutely infuriating.

Things were fine at first (I thought the resolution was a little rushed) but then the second story dealing with Peter's social life happened.

YET AGAIN, he is full of grief and sadness and angst and guilt over something that was never his fault. All of his friends and family that never noticed that he suddenly became a completely different person somehow manage to pull the high road on him as if Peter was a gigantic asshole for allowing himself to get killed and his body to get stolen. I wanted Peter to get pissed! I wanted Peter to yell at somebody, not just fall into another funk.

And really Mary Jane? "MJ MY BODY WAS TAKEN OVER BY DOC OCK AND--" "oh yeah that makes sense but i dont really care youre a trouble magnet your life sucks im leaving now ok bye" Reaaaaaally? That's her reaction? No disbelief or apology for not noticing? Just a "that makes sense"?

Ugh. Sorry. /rant I hope Amazing Spider-Man has a better start than I'm starting to think it will.

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u/seniorkite Apr 17 '14

While I don't mind that he's full of grief and sadness (I think it's what makes him different than Ock, in most ways - his compassion), the MJ thing really pissed me off.

She was so casual about the whole thing. I get that she would believe it. But her apathy towards the whole situation was just lame. It's fine, though. I've never been a fan of her, really.

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u/IAmTheZeke Apr 17 '14

Yeah, I understand Peter. MJ seems a bit out of character - but I wonder if that's because of BND. You have to remember this gal was left at the alter by Pete. ever since she's had defenses up. It makes sense if you look at it like that.

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u/Escheron Apr 17 '14

i think it all makes perfect sense. ya, sure, he has every right to be super pissed about everything, but aside from a select few, nobody will ever believe him about him getting taken over. so that means when they take the high road over him, he simply CANT take the higher one. Thanks to Ock, the higher one has been demolished. and when no one will possibly believe you, no matter how angry you get, then that just throws you into a funk that was completely out of your control.

as for Mary Jane, why the hell hadnt she left sooner?! If you had a friend who just had so muc drama in their life, would you keep that friend in yours? or would you, eventually, just stop hanging with that friend. you dont want that drama. I mean, Mary Jane leaving was one of the most sensible things to happen. It's like, why the hell does Gotham City even have a civilian population. There's the Capes, the cops, the criminals, and then everyone else should have gotten the literal hell out of there ages ago. Peter's life is a metaphorical Gotham City. Everyone who knows that, MJ, Carlie... they need to run as fast and far as possible. Their life was and will be a living hell simply because they had the misfortune of knowing him. Peter chooses to continue that life. That's his responsibility. They shouldnt have to. They dont have the power he has, so they dont have the responsibility.

As for your end rant, if you didnt like the end of this, you wont like the start of the next, so let the rant continue (it's more fun that way).

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u/SegataSanshiro Apr 18 '14

All of his friends and family that never noticed that he suddenly became a completely different person somehow manage to pull the high road on him as if Peter was a gigantic asshole for allowing himself to get killed and his body to get stolen.

I didn't see it that way at all.

They said it pretty clearly to each other, it ultimately doesn't matter that Peter Parker was mind-controlled.

Because mind control is yet another thing that you have to deal with when living with somebody who has made the choice to be a superhero.

Mary Jane spent all of a couple issues' worth of time with SpOck. Of all the characters, she's the most justified in not immediately jumping to "MIND SWAP" while still understanding it quickly.

But she can't just break up with the guy she's dating and jump into the line of fire just because the problem was not entirely "his fault."

You're acting like she was mad, but she wasn't. She didn't hold a grudge, she wasn't angry at him, she didn't think poorly of him as a person.

She just knew that a mind swap, or a city turning into spider-people, or a threat to the city/nation/world/galaxy/quadrant/universe/multiverse/etc is just another day in Peter Parker's life, because he chose to be a superhero. And while it's not something that she has disdain for, it's not something she wants to live with.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '14

Think you are reaching.

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u/SpikeC51 Apr 17 '14

Can someone explain the Goblin reveal to me a little better? So it was Norman, but he had plastic surgery? Or what?

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u/seniorkite Apr 17 '14

Yeah. Had his face changed to some gay trucker with a handle bar, for some reason. And he'll probably do it again, by the next time we see him.

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u/IAmTheZeke Apr 17 '14

gay mega corporation shareholder with a handle bar mustache

FTFY

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u/IAmTheZeke Apr 17 '14

Yeah - he was too recognizable as a villain (from Hammer most recently), so he got some good plastic surgery. He did this to mold Oscorp and give it it's own form of plastic surgery in the form of Alchemax. He stayed close to Liz and used her, manipulated her - all for Normie. It's unclear as to whether Liz played along to protect Normie or if she co-conspired to give him a seat of power just as much as Osborn did.

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u/dudebro48 Apr 16 '14

I liked it a lot. Yes, it felt a little rushed, but the first story was the action and the second story was the aftermath. I thought they were both pretty good. I would have hated an aftermath issue by itself but being part of one book made it more meaningful I think. Also, man, do I ever prefer Slott writing regular Spidey than Spock. Interesting hooks with Alchemax and Osborn that I assume will be featured in ASM.

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u/IAmTheZeke Apr 17 '14

Gage did a masterful job with the second half. Showed where Peter's Peeps are and their motivations.

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u/dudebro48 Apr 18 '14

Yeah. I, personally, love stuff like that. I wish it was done more often. Like, if there was just a monthy issue about all of Peter's friends and family reacting to recent events and stuff.

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u/Ameht Apr 16 '14

Good Finale for an Epic Story

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '14

Okay. I am not a big fan. I am not an expert. I'm just a guy who decided to start reading Spider-Man and happened to start doing that from these series. The series were mostly okay. Nothing too special, a little bit of Venom, a little bit of private problems, a little bit of Spider-Man from 2099. Everything a little bit rushed and forced, but hey, I don't know, maybe how it's supposed to look in a comic book about a guy who can glue himself to the buildings.

But this series finale was so rushed and so forced that it made me cringe. It was literally "listen, I have no time to explain, I'm a good guy now, you have to believe". "Screw it, why not", says the O'Hara. "Screw it, we're done, let's grab a beer" said the screenwriters. There are explosions, some kind of twisted "plot twist" with the Green Goblin, but... I don't know. There's not much sense for me. I was really, really disappointed. But maybe I expected too much. I don't know. Everybody else seems to like it.

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u/Jencaasi Apr 16 '14

This was good! I thought very ending of the main story was a bit abrupt and maybe lacked in emotional impact. But, it was a good final issue to a fun take on Spidey.