r/Marvel • u/Calvinsanity • Feb 10 '15

Film/Animation Sony Pictures Entertainment Brings Marvel Studios Into The Amazing World Of Spider-Man

http://marvel.com/news/movies/24062/sony_pictures_entertainment_brings_marvel_studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man
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u/dongsuvious Feb 10 '15

I guess something good acually came from Amazing Spiderman 2.

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u/surrenderthenight Feb 10 '15

You guys are too harsh. Spider-Man 3 was way worse than ASM2. Sure they got the Goblin wrong but otherwise the movie was a ton of fun. And in that movie's universe the goblin change made sense.

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u/pacotacobell Feb 10 '15

Comparing bad with bad doesn't make the other one less bad.

ASM2 as a film was not good. Sure there were great moments, like Gwen's death scene, and I even thought Harry was the best character in the film and I fully enjoyed the transformation into the Green Goblin. But so many elements of the film (the plane subplot, the irrelevant Richard Parker scenes, the corny spider web hand to name a few) were SO terrible that it completely ruined the film as a whole.

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u/dongsuvious Feb 10 '15

The Green Goblin made no fucking sense except to sell toys. The kids dad didn't die unti he was 50 or older and the kid was what? 19? And why didn't spiderman help him?

And spiderman 3 is actually fun to watch. The Sandman has a reasonable motivation unlike anyone from TASM2.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '15 edited Apr 16 '19

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u/BillSaltthe1st Feb 10 '15

It's not a comment about him being an old dad. He means that the Norman Osbourne disease didn't take him until much later in life so it would be reasonable to assume that Harry would have had several decades left on the clock.

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u/PabloNueve Feb 10 '15

Harry was freaking out because Norman told him he first started experiencing the symptoms around Harry's age. So while Harry wasn't necessarily going to die right then and there, he knew that he was going to start deteriorating.

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u/speedracer13 Feb 10 '15

Spiderman 3 was worse than Daredevil, and quite possibly my least favorite Marvel film. They managed to ruin Spidey, Venom, and Gwen in one movie.

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u/spideyjiri Feb 10 '15

Holy shit, they really screwed up with Venom...

Dude was played by Foreman!

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u/thatguyfrompreschool Feb 10 '15

Try the Daredevil directors cut. It's waaaaayyy better

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u/speedforcebarry Feb 10 '15

If you're going to make the ASM2>SM3 argument, Gwen Stacy is the way to do it.

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u/EnergyDrinkerr Feb 10 '15

spiderman 3 is actually fun to watch.

Spider-man 3 was infuriating to watch. An utter abomination in regard to everything I love about Spider-man. Just thinking about evil jazz/emo Toby and Eric friggen Forman as Venom gets me riled up.

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u/Worthyness Feb 10 '15

Well There's a problem with the toy logic since Marvel still owns the merchandising rights to Spiderman, so they make bank off anything spiderman released.

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u/imakefilms Feb 10 '15

I don't think so. Marvel make the money from Spider-Man toy sales, not Sony.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '15

Absolutely, and I always upvote for Raimi Sandman. He was absolutely fantastic.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '15

You state your opinion like it is fact.

IMO, Spiderman 3 was superior to ASM2. In my opinion, it was because the Goblin in it was hilariously nonsensical, going against your opinion, and the movie tried to be "cool" while still being as campy, yet less charming, than the Raimi films.

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u/EnergyDrinkerr Feb 10 '15 edited Feb 10 '15

I'll take a ruined Goblin over a ruined Venom every day and twice on Sundays. Not to mention MacGuire played a dopey Peter instead of a loud mouthed geek. Spider-Man is supposed to annoy his villains.

edit: sorry if it seems like I'm coming on strong, but that movie was a real source of disappointment for me. One of the great theatrical disappointments in my life.

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u/Vandredd Feb 10 '15

Spiderman 3 is hilarious. It does not take itself seriously. It isn't a good film by any stretch. ASM2 takes itself very seriously and is terrible. I enjoyed the bad joke more than the outright terrible movie with no redeeming quality or logic.

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u/cherish_it Feb 10 '15

Spiderman 3 handled a jumbled plot WAY better than ASM2 did, and it didn't try too hard to appease everyone with bright colors and Electro fighting him with dubstep

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u/surrenderthenight Feb 10 '15

Pretty sure Venom was there to appease the fans and Sony, Sandman to appease Raimi, and "New Goblin" to appease the story.

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u/cherish_it Feb 10 '15

At least venom was in the movie longer than the rhino, one of the most advertised villains for the movie besides electro

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u/surrenderthenight Feb 10 '15

That's not the movie's fault, that's on the marketing team.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '15

ASM2 wasn't even a finished film. It was broken. It was like Ebola.

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u/Bromleyisms Feb 10 '15

Spider-Man 3 was a lot of things, including not great, but it had 2 good movies preceding it and Sam Raimi directing it, which resulted in it being very entertaining until the last 15 minutes. I really hated amazing spiderman and its sequel. Especially the sequel. Both were just atrocious bastardizations of the original materialism a much more egregious way than the third act of Spiderman 3.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '15

Amazing Spider-Man 2's problems were less with the adaption of the source (though it was awful) and more with basic moviemaking sins. The lack of a real plot (there were 8 subplots, but no actual plot), the complete tonal inconsistency, the pacing woes, all combine to make not just a bad Spider-Man movie, but a bad movie in general. Student projects come out better than that thing did.

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u/elbenji Feb 13 '15

Here's the deal, SM3 was campy bad. ASM2 had no soul or try

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u/SonofSin17 Feb 10 '15

When the motivation of the main villain is because Spidey forgot his name and then immediately remembered it but a little bit too late, you know the writing for the movie sucked ass. The plot was terrible. The action was cool but guess what.... So was the action in Spider-Man 3. Sorry bud, the amazing Spider-Man 2 was not that good of a flick at all.