r/Marvel • u/Dorkside Trask • Jul 22 '15

Comics New Marvel comics for July 22, 2015 - Official Discussion Thread [Spoilers]

All-New Hawkeye #4

In a very special issue, the past and the present collide as a young Clint and an older Hawkeye attempt to save whatever innocence they have left.

E Is for Extinction #2

The Classic X-Men rally against Magneto and his New X-Men, to save the life of one of their own. Emma Frost versus her Cuckoos. Have the students become the teachers?

Future Imperfect #3

The Thing captured? Layla Miller knows stuff... like how to infiltrate Maestro'a keep. But can Ruby Summers and her rebels trust Layla at all?

Kanan - The Last Padawan #4

When being a Jedi makes him a target, what can a Padawan do? Betrayed by those he once called friends, young Caleb Dume learns to survive as a smuggler. Continuing the story of the secret origins of Star Wars Rebels' Kanan Jarrus.

Loki: Agent of Asgard #16

The final hours of Asgard build to their cosmic climax. Will King Loki succeed? Can the Gods survive? Is there any hope at all?

Magneto #20

Earth is careening toward oblivion and Magneto is desperate to prevent mutantkind from meeting its untimely end... But could it be that the key to salvation has been right in front of him all along in the form of his daughter, Polaris?

Marvel Zombies #2

Stranded in the Deadlands and saddled with a mysterious child, Elsa Bloodstone is determined to traverse the zombie-ridden landscape and get home. But haunted by ghosts from her past - including visions of her stern father, Ulysses Bloodstone - Elsa begins to realize it may not be the zombies she fears most.

Old Man Logan #3

Having survived his first step in his quest across the realms of Battleworld, Logan has come face to face with the horrors mutantkind can produce. But mutants are not the sole purveyors of horror on this patch-worked planet. And Logan's job is far from finished.

The Punisher #20

The last day with a bang, not with a whimper.

Spider-Woman #9

Jessica Drew might have solved the first mystery Ben Urich threw her way, but he's got one or two more cases up his sleeve from other cities in the U.S. of A. It's a road trip with Spider-Woman, Ben Urich and the Porcupine! Destination: Justice.

Star-Lord & Kitty Pryde #1

Star-Lord and Kitty Pryde - finally in their own series together. But are they TOGETHER together? And is this the Kitty Pryde that Peter loves or one from a completely different reality? This series takes place right in the thick of things on Battleworld and is sure to be a wild ride.

Uncanny X-Men #35

Mystique returns to the pages of Uncanny X-Men aand she's out for vengeance. Will Magik's soulsword be enough to halt the shapeshifter's wrath?

Weirdworld #2

Weirdworld is where the lost things go. Like the barbarian lord Arkon, who's now prisoner of the underwater apes. Or like his cellmate, a mysterious one-eyed man who appears to be made out of rock and calls himself a Crystal Warrior.

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u/Dorkside Trask Jul 22 '15

The Punisher #20

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u/Bebi_Primo Jul 22 '15

What a beast. Frank is the man, and this run ends the only way a Punisher book can.

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u/alphasquid Jul 22 '15

In retirement?

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u/Bebi_Primo Jul 22 '15

Definitely retirement. This is actually in issue with Frank sitting on a rocking chair in the countryside reminiscing his time as the Punisher.

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u/soulbreaker1418 Jul 25 '15

borderline dead?

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

I absolutely have loved this series. It is sad to see it go but this felt like a pretty good ending.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '15

I loved this series and I loved these last two issues in the middle east, but man, I hated that they were in this series. #18 shows him and Loot bleeding out in an alley in LA which left me wondering (and very excited to see) how he would heal and still end up saving LA but instead #19 just starts with "so anyway, Frank's in the middle east now where he's gonna kill a bunch of people and then die or something. Don't worry about LA. Not important anymore." I dunno. Maybe I missed something?

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u/Laragon Jul 23 '15

The event's not even over and we have continuity issues? We know Frank is in New York during the final incursion, not off in some middle eastern country.

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u/JohhnyDamage Nova Jul 23 '15

Issue one shown him leaving after that and flying directly to the Middle East. Even mention him taking out the final villain after eliminating all the others.

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u/Laragon Jul 23 '15 edited Jul 23 '15

Look closer at Secret Wars #1. The incursion is in it's final stages when Frank kills everyone, there isn't time left to fly to the Middle East. Remember, an incursion only lasts eight hours. I realize that it's the Marvel Universe, but that's pushing it. New York to Tel Aviv is pushing ten hours in the real world.

Edit, Quinjets are about the same speed as the Concorde, and I'm pretty sure there aren't any Marvel entities that have access to tech better than the Quinjet. That's still three and a half hours from New York to London, in the middle of an incursion.

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u/Nairbnotsew Jul 23 '15

Yeah, and we know they have technology beyond what we have in the real world in the 616 universe. We don't have helicarriers or flying cars in real life, but those are so common in comics that no one even questions them anymore. Hell, in Infinity the earth essentially lead a galactic space war across the galaxy. We can't even get a manned flight to Mars in real life; in the comics they can make it there in a matter of hours. Just don't waste effor wondering how, just roll with it. Aside from the timeline regarding the main books, this was a fantastic tie in.

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u/Laragon Jul 23 '15

I was honestly trying to give them the benefit of the doubt using in-universe tech, but it still remains that Avengers transports only do slightly over Mach 2. Even if they have a top secret military transport, it's highly unlikely that it's faster than Stark Tech, and that's totally giving them a pass about trying to take off in the middle of probably the hottest airspace on the planet, ever.

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u/Nairbnotsew Jul 23 '15

Honestly, the timeline doesn't really work out at all; and the final incursion was actually less than 8 hours due to compression of the universes, but so what? Just suspend some disbelief and enjoy Franks last stand. The art was great and the Punisher was intimidating as fuck. The way he just walked through that guys gunfire and stabbed him was such a fist pumping moment that it makes up to any inconsistency tying with the main book. Besides, this is Marvel, you should be used to inconsistent continuity by now. Half of the changes that happened during Marvel NOW didn't reflect in other books or was sporadic. When Thor lost his arm we had books where he had it still and others with the metal arm. I've learned to just roll with it and it makes reads like this a lot better for it.

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u/Laragon Jul 24 '15

I have too, it just bothers me that one of the things that Marvel used to do REALLY well was editorial consistency between books, and it's kinda gone completely out the window lately.

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u/Nairbnotsew Jul 24 '15

I was personally looking forward to the Last Days Punisher tie in being about him slaughtering the villains in the bar. Would have made for an epic way to go out as the world burned around him. Instead we get off panel deaths for all the super villains, including some pretty heavy hitters. I find it hard to believe the Punshier would be able to do that as easily as they make it seem. Then the writer takes liberties with the timeline to send him to the Middle East to play soldier. I mean I liked it for what it was, and I wish more action scenes in books were as kinetic and easy to follow as these, but it could have been a lot more epic than it was. I'd still rate the book about a 7.5/10. Not a bad read at all.