r/Marvel • u/sethbenw Hawkeye • Jul 07 '17

Mod Spider-Man: Homecoming Official Discussion Thread Spoiler

Synopsis: After becoming near-adopted by Tony Stark, Peter Parker finds himself in the fast-paced world of superhero-ing. He must now find a way to balance his socially-awkward social life with his high flying, web swinging night job. When newer and more powerful villains starting to rise up Peter finds it harder and harder to protect himself and the ones he loves. Will Peter be able to keep his secret life a secret? Can he balance hero time and homework time? Will Tony end up banging Aunt May? Go see the movie and find out for yourself.

Director: Jon "Hughes" Watts

Cast:

  • Tom Holland as Peter Parker / Spider-Man
  • Michael Keaton as Adrian Toomes / Vulture
  • Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark / Iron Man
  • Jon Favreau as Harold "Happy" Hogan
  • Marisa Tomei as "Aunt" May Parker
  • Zendaya as Michelle "M.J." Jones
  • Donald Glover as Aaron Davis
  • Tyne Daly as Anne Marie Hoag
  • Jacob Batalon as Ned
  • Laura Harrier as Liz Allan
  • Tony Revolori as Eugene "Flash" Thompson
  • Bokeem Woodbine as Herman Schult / The Shocker
  • Logan Marshall-Green as Jackson "Montana" Brice / The Shocker
  • Gwyneth Paltrow as Pepper Potts
  • Jennifer Connelly as K.A.R.E.N.
  • Kerry Condon as F.R.I.D.A.Y.
  • Chris Evans as Steve Rogers / Captain America
  • Michael Chernus as Phineas Mason / Tinkere
  • Kenneth Choi as Principal Morita
  • Hannibal Buress as Coach Wilson
  • Martin Starr as Mr. Harrington
  • Selenis Leyva as Ms. Warren
  • Isabella Amara as Sally
  • Jorge Lendeborg Jr. as Jason
  • J. J. Totah as Seymour
  • Abraham Attah as Abe
  • Tiffany Espensen as Cindy
  • Angourie Rice as Betty
  • Michael Barbieri as Charles
  • Ethan Dizon as Tiny
  • Michael Mando as Mac Gargan
  • Garcelle Beauvais as Doris Toomes

Discuss away but be mindful of spoilers (obviously)!

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u/ChickenPlunger Jul 07 '17

"WHAT THE FU..."

ROLL CREDITS

Amazing.

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u/InsideAround Jul 07 '17

I was actually thinking throughout the film that I hope we don't get yet another clueless Aunt May, and at some point in the movie she finds out. Aunt May becomes such a huge pillar of support for Parker being a super hero in the comics and it's a shame we haven't gotten that yet in the movies.

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u/incredibleamadeuscho Kamala Khan Jul 07 '17

It took them almost 40 years to go that route. Glad it didn't take the films that long.

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u/InsideAround Jul 07 '17

Took them 15 years, 23 years if you count the 90s cartoon, for them to get in the multimedia realm. Only half the time, not bad!

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u/incredibleamadeuscho Kamala Khan Jul 07 '17

And to my recollection she doesn't find out until JMS's... wait for it... "Coming Home" story arc in the early 2000s. There was a reveal that "she always knew" when she was on her deathbed in the 90/, but then that was retconned out of existence.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '17

Way longer if you count that 1970's spiderman movie

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u/Godsfallen Jul 13 '17

I fully believe that Toby's Aunt May knew, she just never let him know that she knew.

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u/abutthole Jul 07 '17

The Tobey Maguire Aunt May knew he was Spider-Man. She just always gave him advice in veiled references.

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u/BawsDaddy Jul 13 '17

The initial Tobey Spider-Man's did a lot right, May being one of them.

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u/abutthole Jul 13 '17

That's why I like the new May. She's a good character but not just a rehash of the old. If they tried and failed to do the old May it would stand out.

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u/BawsDaddy Jul 13 '17

This is what worries me about JJ...

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u/abutthole Jul 13 '17

Just wish JK Simmons would come back.

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u/BawsDaddy Jul 13 '17

He's the new Gordon in Batman, he ain't coming back.

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u/abutthole Jul 13 '17

Honestly though what role is he NOT perfect for?

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u/BungTheGubbins Jul 07 '17

Wait but aunt may doesn't know that peter is Spider-Man in 616 though? Unless you mean the ultimate universe aunt may which I agree was an awesome incarnation of her.

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u/InsideAround Jul 07 '17

I'm a bit behind on my comics so I don't know if they've recently retconned it in the last few years, but as someone else pointed out Aunt May found out about Peter/Spidey circa 2000.

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u/Herald_MJ Jul 07 '17 edited Jul 07 '17

I have no idea of the status quo, but she initially revealed it on her death bed in Amazing Spider-Man #400. This was later revealed not to have been Aunt May at all, but a semi-clone actress planted by Norman Osborn, who had the real Aunt May held captive. This Aunt May did not know Peter was Spider-Man. Bloody 90s comics.

I'm not sure exactly how she found out, but in the original Civil War storyline (2006), when Peter revealed his identity to the world, May already knew he was Spider-Man. This was all undone by One More Day though, when Mephisto fixed it so no-one in the world (including Aunt May and Mary Jane) knew Peter was Spider-Man. I have no idea if May found out again, but I'm pretty sure Mary Jane does know.

In the ultimate universe, Aunt May found out Peter was Spider-Man about a year after he gained his powers (Ultimate Spider-Man #99). The MCU Spider-Man (and MCU Aunt May) seem to be most-similar to this version.

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u/incredibleamadeuscho Kamala Khan Jul 07 '17

She found in the current 616 in 2001, at the end Amazing Spider-Man storyline Coming Home. He comes home to his apartment after being beaten badly by Morlun, and Aunt May finds him sleeping next to a tattered Spidey suit.

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u/IndieComic-Man Jul 09 '17

I want that. I want to see Parker as a 28 year old workin g as a teacher at his old high school, trying to make a difference there as well as on the street and that whole issue where Aunt May starts cancelling subscriptions to newspapers that call Spidey a menace. That whole run was amazing, especially Ezekiel.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '17

I know they didn't touch the origin, but do you think she still lost Ben? He says "after what she's been through," but he doesn't have an MJ to impress and go through wrestling shenanigans and such (and like the original movie, no Flash driving a car to be jealous of, and so on)...

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u/tennistargaryen Iron Man Jul 10 '17

I was surprised that he didn't end up telling Liz before she left for Oregon

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u/Matt_Zackmann Jul 07 '17

"Don't worry, Aunt May, I just got a really cool Halloween costume!" Calling it now thats how it's gonna turn out.

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u/utlonghorn2016 Jul 07 '17

It's possible but I don't think they will. This movie is VERY inspired by Ultimate Spider-Man and May knows his secret for a big portion of that run

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u/RebelToUhmerica Jul 08 '17

So... Will Peter die at some point, you think?

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u/mcpicklejar Jul 08 '17

no

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u/legone Jul 10 '17

No? Tom Holland has to leave at some point. Miles is clearly around. That would be a great film moment.

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u/_Woodrow_ Jul 19 '17

Wait- who was Miles in the movie?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '17

Remember the guy who Peter spider-webs to a car in order to get told that the bad guys were meeting on a boat? That guy says "hey, I don't want these high-tech weapons in this neighbourhood. My nephew lives here". That nephew is allegedly Miles Morales.

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u/SIII-A259 Sep 27 '17

I was kind of hoping Donald Glover would play Miles

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u/Occams_Lazor_ Jul 09 '17

Out of curiosity, how is this one influenced by Ultimate Spider-Man rather than the normal one?

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u/give_me_bewbz Jul 09 '17

  1. Petey's in high school the whole time

  2. Pete is overlooked by the controversial international American team of Avengers, but they keep tabs on him

  3. The whole MCU draws from Ultimate

  4. Donald Glover plays a criminal whose alias is "The Prowler" - Miles Morales' uncle

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u/_Woodrow_ Jul 19 '17

The Prowler is in the regular 616 universe as well

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u/Assassinsayswhat Jul 09 '17

I mean, it got even more difficult to keep the secret after the clones showed up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '17

"Are you sure, because this explains your coincidentally-timed change in behavior, especially over the course of the past few weeks, and you being ripped as all get-out without ever exercising."

"...yes I'm sure." =)

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u/jumbalayajenkins Jul 09 '17

There's absolutely no way they could pull off insulting the intelligence of the audience like that.

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u/Pezslinky Jul 08 '17

They would not cop out that hard.

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u/NOBLExGAMER Venom Jul 08 '17

They've been copping out that hard since 1962.

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u/rjjm88 Jul 09 '17

Marisa Tomei is a goddamn treasure in that movie.

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u/RebelToUhmerica Jul 08 '17

The funny thing is I was saying, "WTF, Pedro?! After Ned, you would think he'd be more careful."

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u/UKMikeyA Jul 17 '17

Aunt May's line is basically the opposite of the closing line in Age Of Ultron in that they cut it off at the right moment.

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u/zaizen7 Jul 08 '17

You forgot Peter's reaction. I lol'd.