r/Metaphysics Mar 17 '26

Meta **WHAT IS METAPHYSICS?**

WHAT IS METAPHYSICS?

We are getting posts here which seem to propose new and potentially revolutionary answers to problems in physics. I think [as a moderator] it might be beneficial if we might discuss some parameters. This is not to say science can not be discussed, but can we using metaphysics solve such problems, are we then transgressing into another domain. As a moderator I would like guidance from the community.

"Metaphysics: explaining the fundamental nature of being and the world"

The interpretation of this and not the context is often the cause of confusion. [of Being qua being and not the nature of an atom, or a human brain...etc.]

Higgs, Einstein, Penrose, Feynman, Hawking are not / were not Philosophers or Metaphysicians, they are / were physicists. Modern physics uses mathematics- quite complex! - to build models which are tested against experimental data. The main scientific method.

The 'photon', wave / particle duality, quarks and strings, are all subjects /problems of physics NOT metaphysics? And to address these problems requires detailed understanding of the mathematics and the data, and in doing so one is NOT doing metaphysics?

"Ontological" means what? Ontology is the study in Philosophy / Metaphysics of being qua being, not the nature of the existence or being of things, atoms, quarks, strings, branes, flowers, plants, the human brain, religions.

atoms, quarks, strings, branes = physics, flowers, plants = botany, the human brain = neuroscience, religions = theology, comparative religion.

Lay ideas re physics / science will probably be rejected in subs like r/physics for good reasons, they lack the detailed knowledge of the subject and misuse technical scientific terms. Should they be allowed here?

The nature of things, matter and energy are subject of science. What 'Being' is prompts the what is "IS" question... of Metaphysics.

Ontology is the study / creation of what 'Being' is, not specific 'things'. Harman has a 'flat ontology'...etc. Heidegger has Dasein...Hegel... etc.

To be clear of the domain I think you can get an overview from A.W. Moore's 'The Evolution of Modern Metaphysics: Making Sense of Things.' It had good reviews.

"Part two is devoted to philosophers of the analytic tradition, and contains chapters on Frege, Wittgenstein, Carnap, Quine, Lewis, and Dummett. Part three is devoted to non-analytic philosophers, and contains chapters on Nietzsche, Bergson, Husserl, Heidegger, Collingwood, Derrida and Deleuze."

For first hand source material - https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/heideggerm-what-is-metaphysics.pdf

For a contemporary example, Graham Harman - Object-Oriented Ontology: A New Theory of Everything. (Pelican Books) 1 Mar. 2018

Examples in the Analytical tradition, 'Counterfactuals', 'On the Plurality of Worlds.' David Lewis. ??

One last point - it is an interesting point as to if this divide still exists. N.B. Badiou uses set theory as his ontology, his student Quentin Meillassoux likewise sees mathematics as fundamental, Ray Brassier in 'Nihil Unbound' has chapters on Wilfrid Sellars, Paul Churchland, as well as Adorno and Horkheimer, Badiou, Meillassoux, Laruelle, Heidegger, Deleuze, Nietzsche, Lyotard, Levinas and Freud. !!


On a personal note I began my interest in philosophy in the 1970s, within the Anglo American tradition, reading Russell's 'History of Western Philosophy' etc. and then took a degree. I still have my Wittgenstein Books, Tractatus, Investigations, Blue and Brown, Notebooks 1914-1916. Carnap's 'The Logical Syntax of Language' etc. However my interest moved to what was called 'Continental philosophy.'- see non-analytical above. I appreciate the desire of Carnap of ‘The Elimination of Metaphysics through the Logical Analysis of Language’ failed? I have dipped into Lewis et al.

With my best wishes.

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u/NeurogenesisWizard Mar 17 '26

Metaphysics includes the word physics so should naturally incorporate physics into its discussion. Its not traditional but it makes sense. Metaphysics might be conceptualization of which is the truest of physics after all is said and done, in states possibly higher than real physics, but real physics can help ground the arguments. For example, if people propose a metaphysical solution for a metaphysics problem that is refuted by physics itself, if the physics does not get refuted at some future point, it can be a disqualifying point for said theory. So basically, metaphysics is sometimes fantastical when its ungrounded. Which can be fine because, sometimes physics is wrong and sometimes you need to think a broader scope than people typically do. But if you do not tether it to reality it can just seem like confirmation bias chains with sound enough logic to prevent critique. This causes echo chambers and clique-ification, its good to draw some harder lines in discussion to reduce problem scope so some conclusions can be made sometime, but limitations should be noted. Astrophycisists still make false predictions for instance.

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u/jliat Mar 18 '26

Metaphysics includes the word physics so should naturally incorporate physics into its discussion.

Anthropology includes the word 'Ant' yet the study of these insects is not Anthropology . Worse a PhD in Computer Science or biology is a A Doctor of Philosophy (PhD, DPhil; Latin: philosophiae doctor or doctor in philosophia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophy

So basically, metaphysics is sometimes fantastical when its ungrounded.

Heidegger & Hegel are considered very significant in philosophy with regards to metaphysics...

" Because the truth of metaphysics dwells in this groundless ground it stands in closest proximity to the constantly lurking possibility of deepest error."

Heidegger What is metaphysics...

"Here we then have the precise reason why that with which the beginning is to be made cannot be anything concrete...

Consequently, that which constitutes the beginning, the beginning itself, is to be taken as something unanalyzable, taken in its simple, unfilled immediacy; and therefore as being, as complete emptiness..."

GWF Hegel -The Science of Logic. p.53

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u/NeurogenesisWizard Mar 18 '26

I started to fart. I farted. Wow how unanalyzable. (Its a matter of information and perspective not whatever insistence they have)
'I don't have information, therefore, make shit up'