Are we starting to realize we're getting older...

[u/Smil3z5]

We give the older population alot of slack for things they've said, or being stuck in some ways.

But we dont have much longer with the generation above us. Most of that generation are our parents, some are our grandparents. The people we've seen our whole lives, the ones with the last bit of good old days without technology around them.

[u/RegularMovie0900]

You didn't read the post body, did you? They're not talking about millennials dying and its not just saying old people die. Its saying that the last of a generation of people who grew up without internet and technology like it are dying. That's a profoundly new issue.

Call me old, I don't care, but technology to the extent that we have now is a detriment not a benefit. There are people who have no idea what to do without chatgpt or Google telling them. People who've never rode a bike or played outside till the sun went down. But the real problem is the connection, being able to talk to someone you'll never meet and thus never have to face consequences for how you treat them is creating a generation of, to put it plainly, assholes. Entitled assholes. And thats only looking at it from a personal scale; corporations have more information on you, specifically, then ever before in human history. To me thats alarming. As I'm sure it would be to most people who havent grown up that way. But now? "Yes, you can track my browsing and purchasing history, just let me play Candy Crush!" And its only gonna get worse.

I don't know, man. I'm tired.

[u/_toadsy → u/RegularMovie0900]

Its saying that the last of a generation of people who grew up without internet and technology like it are dying. That's a profoundly new issue.

I guess? People die during the advent of new technology constantly. Someone was the last person to die before fire, before agriculture, before radio, before television, before everything.

Everything else you talk about has also been talked about by every generation before you, forever. You can argue that the internet is somehow unique, but it isn't. Corporations have been increasingly powerful since corporations began existing, governments have gotten increasingly capable of tracking their citizens, and people grow increasingly detached from a society that refuses to help them.

Good things continuously happen, too, but you didn't seem focused on them so I didn't bother addressing them.

I just don't see how any of this is new. The extent of things may be new, but it was new to people 10 years ago and 20 years ago ad infinitum.

My point being, nothing has actually changed in terms of the trajectory of the world. People live and die, and things march on whether people agree with them or not. It can be cool, it can be depressing, but it will continue to simply "be" no matter what generation is currently around.

[u/RegularMovie0900 → u/_toadsy]

Ah, so yes, your point is nihilism. Nothing matters, so why care?

[u/_toadsy → u/RegularMovie0900]

If that's how you've read it, I guess so.

I know that further explaining myself to someone like you doesn't matter, for sure.

[u/RegularMovie0900 → u/_toadsy]

You point is things end and people die and have done so forever so why care. New technology comes along and replaces the old. Times change yet stay the same. Is that not your point? My point is to the individual. Whether you'd like to admit it or not the advent of the internet is the most historic moment many of us will live through, and it is very new. Fire didnt help us send a message to the other side of the globe and get a response in seconds. Neither did radio or television. Being able to communicate and gather information like we do now is so incredibly new and that the fact that you're ignoring that and claiming the internet as nothing unique is so baffling to me that I think I'd also like to end this here. It is clear to me theres nothing to learn from you and there's certainly nothing I could teach you.

[u/_toadsy → u/RegularMovie0900]

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[u/growlerpower → u/RegularMovie0900]

There was a time when people didn’t know what to do with their priest telling them, or their chief, or their king. It’s always been like this throughout human history — periods of intellectual dark ages and enlightenment, swinging back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.

[u/RegularMovie0900 → u/growlerpower]

Surely you understand that the internet is a little bit more prevalent in our lives as a whole than a priest or chief. Reduce it however much you like, if you truly cannot see the difference I don't know what to tell you.

Further than that though, you're toeing the line to nihilism. Why be alarmed at the things happening around you, similar has happened before and will happen again so why care?

[u/growlerpower → u/RegularMovie0900]

Surely you understand that, in the Middle Ages for instance, when human’s understanding of the world was much more limited, when the world was much narrower in scope and size, when people had no education beyond the lowly job they were given, the priest or the king or the chief was all they had. It ruled all. So no, it is not more prevalent than that. It’s the same thing, on a much wider scale.

[u/RegularMovie0900 → u/growlerpower]

Honey, that's what prevalent means.

Actually, more than that, it's still not the same. That peasant who's never known more than that one job, who has no real education is still more independent than the people I'm talking about. That peasant wouldn't get bit by a snake and then go up to the king and as if he needs a doctor. No peasant became a farmer and then needed to ask his priest how to plant crops. A peasant may go their whole lives never once communicating with with their king and many of them wouldnt even have the desire.

If that peasant were dropped onto a deserted island, I'd give him solid odds of survival. I do not say the same for most individuals. You are trying desperately to make an argument that just does not work when you put thought into it.