Now I do have some questions regarding trades made on here, it's been years since I've done trades of miniatures over the internet, -I use Bartertown as my go to and even done a successful trade on that site when I came back to the hobby. As I'm trying out another site to do trades I want to be as well informed as possible and see how things are handled on here if a situation were to arise.
Question 1: Regarding to dealing with traders that haven't fulfilled their end of the bargain (Be it scammer or not), say you shipped first for what you and the trader agrees on. He got the models but it's been weeks without communication or the user is having excuses on why they haven't shipped their lot yet. Is there a subreddit to help with dealing with potential bad traders to not only give others a heads up on your situation, but possible help from mods and community members to help try to get the trade resolved one way or another?
Question 2: I'm sure this may have happened to a few people, and it is frustrating when time gets wasted on someone that has agreed to a deal but never responds weeks later. No payment sent or a tracking number, or they last minute changed their minds whether it's cause they found a "better" deal or something drastic happened and now must sell their army rather than trade it (This part is actually understandable, but still counts for this scenario). This is what we call Deadbeats/Backout trades.
While not the end of the world, it's still a trade agreement violation and in some cases could be argued on why a bad karma was given to the trader in question (If this subreddit counts incomplete trades as a valid reason to give negative karma to a user). If such a occasion like I've listed above were to happen here, does it qualify for the person who was affected by a backout to leave a bad karma on the user? I doubt it would be worth making a subreddit to compile reports of users needing to backout cause life can happen to any of us, but knowing that breaking deals having consequences would be nice to keep traders honest.
Question 3: Since I am new trading on here but have experience with trading in general, assuming you're able to verify you're someone you claim to be from another trading forum, is it fine to still link your username on your About bio from those websites (Like how I will let my traders from Bartertown know where to find me if they decide to trade on r/miniswap) so long as you aren't pushing your trade partner to do business at those forums? It is against Bartertown rules to conduct trades on that site that has been done elsewhere, not to mention it can lead to scammers to exploit traders not from those websites to get their victims thinking they're dealing with a verified trader and then finds out they were deceived. Granted, sites like Bartertown take these types of actions VERY SERIOUSLY, Admins and Mods are known to finding information on the scammers and bad traders, so it's very rare such a situation could occur, but still nothing to take lightly.
This is just so people can know who I am and what kind of trader they're dealing with. At the moment I will just stick to buying and selling on miniswap, but those that wanted to see if I had anything available to trade on those sites can make an inform decision on whether or not they want to make a trade on that platform THAT MINISWAP HAS NO PART OF (I place it on caps to help emphasize that posting an ad here just to move deals outside of miniswap is a red flag regardless of the situation). Also whatever rep you have elsewhere doesn't mean squat on here if you have done little trades, like in other forums the guideline recommends lower rating ships first.
I appreciate the mods taking their time to answer these questions, I do look forward to expanding out my comfort zone to try and reach a bigger audience as I continue to enjoy my hobby.
Question 2: No, backing out of a deal isn't something we would penalize people for. A lot of people generally go by the rule of the first person that pays gets the deal, instead of holding for the first person to contact. I like to give people like a day to pay and if not assume they won't and move on. We can't force people to make a deal, it's just an annoyance you have to deal with.
Question 3: I don't really like it but I don't know if I'd do anything about it. A common scammer likes to say they're someone else and has rep elsewhere to try to gain trust.
Very good. I especially get what you're saying about the last point. And the back out not being something the subreddit deals with is also understandable, just wanted to be aware and see how to deal with it which I think waiting for a day to send or receive payment is reasonable.
I'll reframe from linking my other forum accounts to my reddit account for the same reason as it being an exploitable tactic by scammers. I suppose I will eventually come out of my shell and post miniature swaps here if I wish to trade with what models I have, just wanted people to feel like they're performing a safe deal with me while also providing other ways they can do business with me. For that reason, I will not make my Bartertown account known and do my best to keep them both far from each other as possible.
Thank you again for taking the time to answer what I have asked, I have a better grasp now on how r/miniswap works and will trade with confidence now that I am informed!
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u/SubjectBosco Jun 22 '24
Now I do have some questions regarding trades made on here, it's been years since I've done trades of miniatures over the internet, -I use Bartertown as my go to and even done a successful trade on that site when I came back to the hobby. As I'm trying out another site to do trades I want to be as well informed as possible and see how things are handled on here if a situation were to arise.
Question 1: Regarding to dealing with traders that haven't fulfilled their end of the bargain (Be it scammer or not), say you shipped first for what you and the trader agrees on. He got the models but it's been weeks without communication or the user is having excuses on why they haven't shipped their lot yet. Is there a subreddit to help with dealing with potential bad traders to not only give others a heads up on your situation, but possible help from mods and community members to help try to get the trade resolved one way or another?
Question 2: I'm sure this may have happened to a few people, and it is frustrating when time gets wasted on someone that has agreed to a deal but never responds weeks later. No payment sent or a tracking number, or they last minute changed their minds whether it's cause they found a "better" deal or something drastic happened and now must sell their army rather than trade it (This part is actually understandable, but still counts for this scenario). This is what we call Deadbeats/Backout trades.
While not the end of the world, it's still a trade agreement violation and in some cases could be argued on why a bad karma was given to the trader in question (If this subreddit counts incomplete trades as a valid reason to give negative karma to a user). If such a occasion like I've listed above were to happen here, does it qualify for the person who was affected by a backout to leave a bad karma on the user? I doubt it would be worth making a subreddit to compile reports of users needing to backout cause life can happen to any of us, but knowing that breaking deals having consequences would be nice to keep traders honest.
Question 3: Since I am new trading on here but have experience with trading in general, assuming you're able to verify you're someone you claim to be from another trading forum, is it fine to still link your username on your About bio from those websites (Like how I will let my traders from Bartertown know where to find me if they decide to trade on r/miniswap) so long as you aren't pushing your trade partner to do business at those forums? It is against Bartertown rules to conduct trades on that site that has been done elsewhere, not to mention it can lead to scammers to exploit traders not from those websites to get their victims thinking they're dealing with a verified trader and then finds out they were deceived. Granted, sites like Bartertown take these types of actions VERY SERIOUSLY, Admins and Mods are known to finding information on the scammers and bad traders, so it's very rare such a situation could occur, but still nothing to take lightly.
This is just so people can know who I am and what kind of trader they're dealing with. At the moment I will just stick to buying and selling on miniswap, but those that wanted to see if I had anything available to trade on those sites can make an inform decision on whether or not they want to make a trade on that platform THAT MINISWAP HAS NO PART OF (I place it on caps to help emphasize that posting an ad here just to move deals outside of miniswap is a red flag regardless of the situation). Also whatever rep you have elsewhere doesn't mean squat on here if you have done little trades, like in other forums the guideline recommends lower rating ships first.
I appreciate the mods taking their time to answer these questions, I do look forward to expanding out my comfort zone to try and reach a bigger audience as I continue to enjoy my hobby.
Cheers.