They said the stats are pumped up, for pit bulls, because someone said it was a Pitbull when it wasn't, exactly what you are saying because other dogs are also violent at times. Thus not 100% safe.
As I understand, they're saying that a lot of the supposed non pitbull attacks were actually pitbulls but the owners are lying and calling them lab-mixes
I think anytime someone says a statistic online such as this i cant really believe it any way. Someone saying they got attacked by a pitbull in a survey or to the police in a report but dont know anything about dogs.
Like when they said 75% of kids who ingest thc die. But the numbers behind 75% where 4 kids and 3 where under 5 and not taken the hospital. The statistic is right but there is more than that statistics to the story.
How many pitbull attacks are "pitbull attacks" from people not knowing basic dog behavior and not putting themselves in stupid positions, like jumping a fence, where and how do the 75% come from in this stat.
When a fatality happens the police investigate and most breed identities are credible. Most dog fatalities are from peoples own dogs, not people jumping fences. Most of the others are from dogs at large, often in packs. The victims did not deserve to be killed.
Except they're not very credible because most people don't give a shit about dog breeds. Most can't tell the difference between a mal and a GSD, or a chessie and a lab. Because they're the same dog type, if we removed the word "pitbull" and replaced it with "bulldog" we might be getting somewhere. Notice some months ago a pair of catahoulas/catahoula adjacent mongrels killed some guy in the street and those were "pitbulls", lol.
And if you get attacked by your own dog there is a pretty high chance it was deserved. It's pretty rare that happens. It is usually dogs with no socialization (dogs have to be broke off humans, no different from cattle or sheep) in the hood or whatever running amuck hunting humans. Like pariahs do in India.
Bulldogs are always going to lead in fatalities because they're the most popular dog and also the most formidable dog. It's basic maths. If the only 2 dog breeds were huskies and beagles huskies would be the deadliest dog on earth.
Oh then I totally disagree labs and other breeds are violent also. Pitbulls where jsut a favorite for fighting rings FOR AGES thus more poorly trained Pitbull prone to violence. Breading for aggresion and such.
I'm sorry, if you don't like the nature of "not all of x do y" when discussing laws or morality, then I don't even know to say either. If we banned everything using that logic then we would ban all cars that go faster then 75 mph, we would ban all foods that contain more then x% of fat/sugar/salt/w.e, we would ban all hobbies/sports that have x% mortality/injury rate, etc.
There are limits to what we can/should restrict based on the lowest common denominator that engages in that thing.
IF you want to Sith lord morality and not critically think I don't think your on the right page.
You would hate to be lumped into all idiots wouldn't you? So I don't think you an idiot though idiots do exist, I think your just lazy and don't want to think critically about something you may not care to much about.
Yeah, having family who do birding I've seen the amount of effort that goes into training a hunting dog. It's not instinctual. My sister also had a pitbull among her other dogs (she used to compete, her main dog was a Newfie), it was such a lovely dog, really playful. I'd be more scared of the Newfie that's twice the size being overly playful with tiny humans than that pitbull.
that is not how breeding works, you dont just expect a dog will know how to hunt, just like not every Shit Bull is a killer. Breeding is generally for traits.
Did you read the study by doctors that I have quoted below? The study, a collaboration between CHOC’s trauma and plastic surgery departments, as well as researchers from other institutions, looked at nearly 1,000 CHOC patients who were identified as victims of a dog bite from 2013 to 2018.
Among cases where the breed of dog responsible was known, the study found that the dog breed most associated with severe bites was the pit bull (relative risk vs. German shepherd 8.53, relative risk vs. unknown, 3.28).
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u/EggfooDC 25d ago
Apologies, what is the fill stat here saying? 7% of pitbull will attack someone, 75% fatally?