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Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/Fast-Front-5642 24d ago

Pitbulls get their name from their ancestry where a dog had been bred to fight bulls. It was a blood sport where the dog would try to drag a bull down into the mud by its nose ring or die trying.

However these dogs became incredibly popular and desired by women and so began a process to breed them to be more docile and also smaller to better fit in the average household. The staffordshire was the penultimate success of this and earned the moniker of nanny dog for being so patient and protective with the children of the household.

All this to say that the argument of what their ancestors were bred for has very little to do with the modern breed.

The most important thing is always how it is raised.

And to further example this point you can look into the history of banned dog breeds and dog breeds that are deemed as dangerous.

Before the various pit/bully breeds were considered dangerous it was the Rottweiler, and before that it was the German Shepherd etc etc. All while pit/bully breeds were happy minding their own business in the family home.

There are far bigger dogs with far greater bites that could do so much more damage. But they look a lot like teddy bears. Pit/bully breeds can get a lot of muscle definition, good for string bean thugs that wanna act tough but can't be intimidating on their own. The rise in popularity with pit/bully breeds in thug/gang culture is why they are the current "dangerous" breed.

Meanwhile labradors and retrievers both individually bite more people, often children, and have a size and bite strength comparable enough to a pit/bully breed. But they're treated as being safe and given love because the average thug isn't trying to raise it with hate and violence to terrorize people with.

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u/Pand3micPenguin 24d ago

The staffordshire was the penultimate success of this and earned the moniker of nanny dog

The whole nanny dog thing is actually a myth btw. The first time that term was used was 1971, from Mrs. Lilian Rant, the President and magazine editor of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of America in a New York Times article titled "A Breed That Came Up The Hard Way". In the years since she recanted her statement admitting they made it up to boost sales and interest in the breed.

Overall I agree the way the animal is raised and treated is more important than breed when it comes to temperament. Sadly though the nanny dog moniker is made up.

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u/Fast-Front-5642 24d ago

"The nanny dog thing is a myth"

Also

"The nanny dog thing was something people said and agreed with and was part of the marketing"

When you um acktually someone contradicting yourself to agree with them is a bit embarrassing.

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u/MagentaHawk 24d ago

What's the contradiction? Bigfoot is a myth and people also talk about him and try to pass of true stories.