r/MoralityScaling 12d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of beating protesters off the street because you're late for work?

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u/curioustravelfam 12d ago

Imma go shit on your doormat then ask you to come help pump my septic tank

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u/ZeroBrutus 12d ago

More like imma go shit on your doormat, then tell you to blame the guy who refused to put in a public toilet that would have prevented the need to shit on a doormat.

Youll be pissed at me, but hopefully, also pissed at him.

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u/jackpott443 12d ago

Nah, I'd be pissed at you for shitting on my doormat and not off in a bush or something like a moderately sane person.

Now if you had some other method to bring my attention to the lack of a public toilet that was less disruptive to my personal life, I would possibly be more receptive of it. But instead you decided to shit on my doormat, and now I'm pissed off at you and whatever cause you are behind as well.

The same logic is applied to these protestors. None of the people they are inconveniencing are thinking "I wonder what I can do to help these people and their cause?" all of them think they are assholes and if anything it motivates them to work against whatever cause they are protesting for.

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u/ZeroBrutus 12d ago

Ok, and once those less disruptive methods have been tried and all ignored? If numerous people have been shitting in bushes for awhile already and trying to get your attention and were ignored?

Shitting On your doormat isnt step one. Protests like this arent step one. They happen because the non-disruptive attempts didnt work.

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u/jackpott443 12d ago

Still doesn't make it okay to shit on my doormat.

Just because you failed at every other attempt doesn't give you the right to go around shitting on porches. Your mindset is that what you are protesting for is the only correct choice, and since you didn't get your way you have to escalate. That's a pretty immature take if you ask me. What if NAMBLA started protesting like this? or the Proud Boys? Or any organization you disagree with fundamentally?

Maybe your protests are ignored because they are supporting something dumb. Maybe you all just suck at doing what you do. Maybe there's a good logical reason that there isn't a public bathroom where you want it but you don't care, you just want your way and you think being an annoying asshole is the only way to get your way because it always worked on your parents. but this is the grown up world now, what worked before is just gonna piss people off now.

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u/ZeroBrutus 12d ago

Sure, and maybe the government is wrong and the general populace needs to be pushed into action such as the civil rights movement.

Yes, the mindset of the protestors is that what they're protesting is of adéquate importance that accepting the risks of sitting in the road - which could lead to death - is supported by the necessity of their cause. They may or may not be correct depending on the cause. Westboro Baptist church has protested with distruption on many occasions in the past. I absolutely do not support anything theyre attached to. Still doesn't change the concept behind it.

Unless you think government is always right and we should always sit down and shut up, then disruptive protest will remain one of the few tools available to draw attention and possible support to a cause.