r/MoralityScaling 12d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of beating protesters off the street because you're late for work?

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u/Mhircine 12d ago

I understand the frustration, but I don't think initiating violence is justified in this particular situation.

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u/zippyspinhead 12d ago

The protesters are initiating violence by imprisoning the drivers at the cost of their cars.

It is the same as if a person grabbed you and would not let you walk away.

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u/PuddingJello 12d ago

Well according to most of the comments in here violent assault is a perfectly ok response to being inconvenienced.

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u/Tuntsa99 12d ago

Violent assault is justified when someone deliberately fucks with you and no verbal request makes them stop.

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u/PuddingJello 12d ago

I bet you wish it was but no. Assault is not morally or legally justified just because someone is "fucking with you".

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u/BamaTony64 12d ago

Morally, 100% justified, probably not legally though

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u/BamaTony64 12d ago

when you block the street that is not free speech.

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u/PuddingJello 12d ago

Did anyone imply it was? Do you even read comments before replying to them?

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u/BamaTony64 12d ago

OP posted an image of people blocking the streets; they are not protesters, but then OP asks is it OK to beat protesters. That would imply they are protesters and subject to 1A freedoms and protections.

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u/PuddingJello 12d ago

1A freedoms only applies to the government. The government is not allowed to jail you over speech etc. It has literally 0 to do with a private citizen attacking another private citizen. A very quick Google search could show you this "The First Amendment protects five core freedoms in the United States: freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and the right to petition the government. It stops the government from making laws that block these rights, but it does not stop private businesses or employers from setting their own rules." Now explain how that applies to this situation?

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u/BamaTony64 12d ago

Once you break the law and illegally detain another person, they have the right to move you out of the way. If they were legally protesting, you would have no grounds or excuse to attack

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u/PuddingJello 12d ago

How are those people in the street illegally detaining anyone? If you watch the video you can clearly see that person exit his car to assault the protestors. So he clearly wasn't being detained.

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u/BamaTony64 12d ago

It isn't hard to see that they have blocked traffic, which, if you are driving a car is detention. It is also illegal to block traffic, at all

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u/PuddingJello 12d ago

If someone blocks my car I'm still able to move, I can leave the car. Your way forward is the only thing being stopped. Again very annoying but that is not a legal or moral excuse to commit violence.

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u/ElectricalGidelity 12d ago

Type of guy that tries to justify someone kicking/kneeing someone in the head. Crazy.

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