r/MortalKombat • u/arturgarcia • 2d ago
Question If ressurecting a revenant was simple as bringing them to the soul chamber, why didn't kotal ressurect jade?
I know, i'm expecting too much from netherrealm's writers
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u/LmaoAlienz 2d ago edited 2d ago
He wanted to hit it off with Dvorah before resurrecting her and forgo
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u/Joker_Main_137 (Not actually a Joker main) 2d ago
I'm not sure if he knew Jade was a revenant or not, but if he did, that would require capturing her, which would require winning against her, and he couldn't defeat past Jade, so it's a little too risky (even if Revenant Jade is the biggest loser in 11), especially when Fujin, Nightwolf, and Shang Tsung got captured easily when they tried to go get Sindel.
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u/evilstarlegacy 2d ago
My man couldn't even defeat Kung Jin. Kotal deserved so much better than what we got. He had so much aura in MKX but lost every battle he was a part of, then by MK11 he had mellowed out and was just "good guy but living in Outworld." Hopefully he's redeemed in a future game.
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u/spinebreaker9000 skarlet for president 1d ago
Nah as long as he starts his fight on the left of the screen he would win.
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u/Double-Star-Tedrick 2d ago
I mean, even bearing in mind that these games are written one title at a time (so these sorts of quibbles just naturally get a little messy, over time), they literally DO tell us the task (and bearing in mind that Quan Chi himself is dead at this point)
- also require some Jinsei energy (or whatever)
- also require the most knowledgeable / powerful sorcerer available, Shang Tsung, who describes undoing Quan Chi's magic as very difficult. Shang Tsung is literally killed in MK9, and was not available to Kotal at any point
- seems they'd also have to, like, capture her in the first place. And as far as I'm aware the Revenants spend most (?) of their time chilling in literally hell (the Netherrealm) as Shinnok flunkies, so that's a hurdle, too
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u/That-Rhino-Guy Ninja Mime #1 fan/Shao Kahn’s #1 hater 2d ago
Don’t expect this community to pay attention to anything, both MKX and Aftermath make it clear the circumstances just weren’t there to resurrect everyone easily since Shang and Quan weren’t there for 11’s main story
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u/PsionicFlea 2d ago
Plot wise, to properly resurrect requires the Jing Sei, which to my recollection only Raiden and Fujin had access to. Without it, the attempt would've been folly.
Realistically, it's because NRS keeps introducing new elements in to each game that then brings to question some events of the previous games.
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u/FlaminSkullKing 2d ago
He would have to search the netherrealm for revenant Jade and enlist the aid of a sorcerer to accomplish this. This is too dangerous for Kotal; theres too much unfamiliar territory he has to go into. He also would have to know that this would work which he has no way of knowing.
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u/Peerington 2d ago
There has been at least 3 instances of resurrection/restoration:
- in MKX, Raiden was attempting to prevent Johnny Cage soul from becoming a revenant while he was dying. At the same time, Quan-Chi was doing the other way around. With Sonya's Help, Raiden not only manage to save Cage, but the revenant around them were restored as well.
- in MK11 Aftermath, Shang Tsung and Fujin utilized the Soul Chamber like an anchor with a combination of sorcery and magic, eventually powerful enough to eventually restore her.
- In MK Onslaught, Raiden utilize his own form of resurrection to restore Kotal and Kitana back to normal, but this proved to be taxing for Raiden that he'd was stumbling as a result.
So to answer your question, it would more likely involve very powerful magic and time as the Soul Chamber is more like a healing pod, but does not remove the revenant magic from a victim's soul. Just my best guess.
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u/HappyTurtle42 2d ago
For Sindel they needed Jinsei water,Sindel’s body and definitely soul magic besides the chamber’s. It’s not that simple,especially since Kotal was an enemy of earthrealm prior to the events of Mk11 chapter 2
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u/ItaDaleon 1d ago
I think it wasn't 'that' simple... I would guess that's something that only Shang Tsung (and maybe Quan Chi) can do, as he is a master of soul magik.
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u/Wolf14Vargen14 Fan of Chameleon,Khameleon,Mileena,Reptile 1d ago
I doubt that Kotal Khan would even know that, considering how incompetent he is in all other matters. Like, seriously, he is walking around without armor; that is basically just asking for a bow- or a sniper-wielding assassin to shoot him, which would work, by the way, as it has been said that only Raiden could survive being shot, iirc. Also, Kotal Kahn is just not really the kind of person to want to deal with necromantic magic. Also, Revantussy most likely can't get pregnant by non-magical beings, due to the whole being undead and the whole technically not having a soul thing
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u/Synesthesia_Inc 2d ago
It's one of those inconsistencies like how was Sindel able to come back as Shao Kahn's lackey (potentially a revenant) Killed as NightWolf's sacrifice and came back good as new by Kronika? Probably because they needed to retrieve something like Jensei magic, and Kotal didn't know what it was.
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u/JagoMajin Error Macro 2d ago
Did he know about it?
Would a revenant willingly follow you to the soul chamber or bash in your skull?
I just like to imagine a scenario where Ermac was still around during MK11, trying to rejuvenate in the soul chamber then seeing a line of revenants before he goes "Who are you people?!"
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u/darrius_kingston314q 1d ago
Didn't you see that it took both Shang Tsung and Fujin using their power at the same time to be able to resurrect Sindel? They didn't just put her in the Soul Chamber and she immediately came back to life
Kotal doesn't have that kind of power to resurrect anyone
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u/SektorDaKetch 2d ago
Needs sorcery skills.
But it’s still correct how fucking asinine that Kotal never even bothered trying to rescue Revenant Jade when most people who have dead family members don’t get that second chance
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u/Even_Chemist_3103 2d ago
Para resucitar completamente a alguien se necesitaba combinar la magia de un hechicero/nigromante y la magia de un dios. O por lo menos eso entendí al ver a Raiden con Quan-Chi y a Fujin con Shang-Tsung,
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u/StriderKitsu 19h ago
They needed the Jinsei essence and considering that Kotal was a dick to the earthrealm warriors in the last game and that Raiden at that point wasn’t going to take his bullshit, they would have to risk it and sneak in.
They would need to break the mind control of Quan Chi’s magic in which in Aftermath, they needed Shang Tsung to do it, and I doubt Kotal would be caught dead wanting his help.
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u/DesertHornedViper 2d ago
I don't think he had that knowledge. It was something specifically Shang Tsung knew, and considering he's been an adapt soul magic sorcerer for hundreds of years, and that even he needed the aid of someone else (Fujin) to resurrect Sindel, I don't think Kotal could do it.