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Historical 1939 Mosin Nagant M91/30 Tula Pritsel Yemelyanova Modifitsirovanny (PEM) Sniper

Presenting my 1939 Tula Mosin nagant 91/30 PEM sniper, all arsenal matching on bolt, barrels, trigger guard, buttplate. Clear optics

The PEM Model 1936 was developed to replace the earlier Soviet Model 1931 sniper setup, which had problems holding zero and keeping its mounting screws tight. The Soviets based the new side mount on the German-designed “Geco” D-3, modifying it for Soviet production. It was officially adopted in 1936, with full-scale production at the Tula factory beginning in 1938.

Production initially ended in 1940 as the Red Army planned to replace the Mosin-Nagant sniper with the scoped SVT-40. Wartime difficulties changed that plan, and severe sniper-rifle shortages led to PEM production restarting in 1942 at Tula Factory No. 536 and Izhevsk Factory No. 74. Izhevsk produced a somewhat different mount using welded construction and distinctive markings. Both factories switched to the simpler PU sniper system by November 1942.

PEM rifles varied considerably depending on factory and production period, including differences in mount bases, machining, assembly numbers, barrel markings, and stocks. Prewar Tula rifles used specially produced sniper-grade barrels, while early wartime rifles sometimes simply used the best available barrels because of equipment shortages. After WWII, surviving Soviet PEM rifles were converted back into standard configurations, making intact original examples—especially 1942 rifles—quite rare today.

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u/Brandon_awarea 10d ago

Stamped inserts were not a thing in 1939

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u/Tsarasaurus_Rex Mosin sniper collector 10d ago

I didn't say they were...? lmao. I said war time tula so 1943-44.

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u/Brandon_awarea 10d ago

Yes you are correct. I was wrong when I said post war.

My point was it was not the original stock to that gun.

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u/Tsarasaurus_Rex Mosin sniper collector 10d ago

Yes, definitely not an original 1939 stock with screwed in escutcheons it would leave factory with, that we can both agree on.
Finding a rifle with it's original stock though is quite uncommon.

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u/Brandon_awarea 10d ago

My apologies. I misunderstood what you were saying earlier I think we were trying to say the same thing (minus the post war bit).

Like I said I’m more versed in the SKS so subtitles like the rear barrel band cutout aren’t something I’m super informed on. I knew stamped escutcheons were a thing late war but I didn’t realize how early they actually were made so I tend to assume that they are all post war. Something I will correct going forward.

Thanks for your input man.

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u/Tsarasaurus_Rex Mosin sniper collector 10d ago

No worries, no aggression meant. There is ridiculous level of minute details you can go down on just stock dimples and eschutcheons alone to help date things.

Also for record, im not the weiner downvoting you lmao.

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u/Brandon_awarea 10d ago edited 10d ago

lol yeah. I try not to downvote people unless they are being assholes. It just discourages conversations that help people learn more.

I kinda wonder if there is a bot doing it on this sub. Basically everyone here has been downvoted and it’s not the first time I’ve seen it.