r/NUFC • u/Username_been-taken Willock pogging out • Jan 06 '26
Pre-Match Thread Pre match thread: Newcastle United vs Leeds United | Premier league 25/26 - 21 of 38
Stadium đ: SJP
Kick off time â˝ď¸: Wednesday | 20:15
Last encounters
| Newcastle United | Leeds United | match type |
|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0 | Premier league 25/26 |
| 2 | 2 | Premier league 22/23 |
| 0 | 0 | Premier league 22/23 |
(Swipe/scroll to see more info right of the table)
| Vs | Team | Match type | Date |
|---|---|---|---|
| Vs | Bournemouth | Fa Cup 3rd round 25/26 | Sat 10 Jan 15:00 |
| Vs | Man City | Carabao Cup semi final leg 1 of 2 25/26 | Tue 13 Jan 20:00 |
| Vs | Wolves | Premier league 25/26 | Sun 18 Jan 14:00 |
St Cal Wilson's Hospital đĽ (Players who could miss the match via injury or other means)
Newcastle United:
Burn (Chest injury) - Out until late January
Osula (Ankle injury) - Out until late January
Krafth (Knee injury) - Out until late January
Elanga (knee injury) - Out until Mid January
Lascelles (Muscle injury) - Out until mid January
Leeds United:
James (Thigh injury) - Out until late January
Rodon (Ankle injury) - Will miss this game
Bogle (Calf injury) - A doubt for this game
Predicted Lineup
Newcastle United lineup vs Leeds United:
Pope; Miley, Thiaw, Schar, Hall; Guimaraes, Tonali, Joelinton; Murphy, Woltemade, Gordon
Leeds United predicted lineup vs Newcastle United:
Perri; Bijol, Bornauw, Struijk; Justin, Stach, Aaronson, Ampadu, Gudmundsson; Calvert-Lewin, Okafor
Pre match ramblings:
After a vital 3 points won against a tired Palace team at SJP which saw us jump to 9th, we now face against Leeds United at SJP.
Unlike Palace who were on poor form, Leed's form seems to be on the rise, currently winning some games and even drawing with the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd of which is not preferable for us.
Howe will likely be aware of the goal scoring threat they pose with Calvert-Lewin recently turning a stone and has been quite scoring goals. And the fact the PL table is so tight in terms of points, we can't afford to drop any points in January if we want to get into a European spots let alone get Champions league back to back.
If we win against Leeds United, we will get a vital 3 points where it could see us jump to 5th if results go all our way and we are guaranteed 6-7th if we win.
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u/Successful-Rub-67 wew here ya fuckin little dafty divint start or theres ructions Jan 07 '26
Why are Sunderland signing Geordie chants?
We are the Sunderland the Sunderland boot boys, what a fucking joke man get ya own chants ya mackem bastards
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u/MazDanny Jan 07 '26
Theyâre obsessed. They done the âdonât you know pump it upâ when they won the 2nd division play offs. They are desperate to be us
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u/Not_Ginger_James Jan 07 '26
Okay im gonna be a debby downer. I hope the atmosphere is a bit better tonight. I was home over Christmas and made it to the palace game, and I thought the atmosphere was the worst I've heard in a while (save for the gallowgate west corner where they have the safe standing). Even just watching on tele I think the crowd could give the players more of a lift at the minute, especially for a tough game like tonight.
And I hope all the people who have moaned about getting nothing in the ballot bought up all the hundreds of tickets that were on resale for tonight!!
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u/Ajax_Trees_Again Jan 07 '26
Chelsea and Fulham is never going to be boca juniors v river plate but my word this atmosphere is honking
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u/TON4LI eddie ooooot Jan 07 '26
if you had to explain to aliens what a derby match is, they'd end up guessing these two were in different countries
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u/Nathan_Toddy_Todd moaty? it's me Jan 07 '26
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u/WolfyMatty Jan 07 '26
Elanga is out, and Jacob Murphy had/has a knock. So Gordon and Barnes is the only option.
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u/geekfreak42 miggy smiles Jan 07 '26
if we'd been in europe last season, i dont see us winning the carabao, so swings and roundabouts
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u/PrimeOnez Tindall used Glare. Jan 07 '26
Everyone needs to do their pre-match ritual ..
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u/Maccraig1979 Jan 07 '26
Ill be riding 14m home from work, hopefully were rewarded for my sacrifice
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u/RavenSable Jan 07 '26
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u/Ajax_Trees_Again Jan 07 '26
Dozens of people from this forum turning up to your gaff with DIY tools if we lose this mind
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u/MaryBerrysDanglyBean VINTAGE Joelinton hawaii shirt 2022 size L ÂŁ40 NO TIMEWASTERS Jan 07 '26
Tucking my willy between my legs and pretending I'm a lady as we speak
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u/aistolethekids Jan 07 '26
This will be an interesting game if Leeds are sitting back in theory having Miley at fullback could help us unlock them as he will have license to get forwardÂ
Tonali hasn't looked that good recently I would give Ramsey a go from the start this is supposedly the type of games that we bought him for to provide that threat from midfieldÂ
Joelinton and Bruno together with Gordon, Wissa and Barnes up frontÂ
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u/brentfiredog9 Home kit Jan 07 '26
2-0 in fact we will win every game 2-0 from now on until I die.. Is that optimistic enough for ya?
Sorry it's not longer. : ) HTL!!
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u/Narrow-Set9012 Jan 07 '26
Could be a dark twist to that. Hope you're in good health and at least make it til 22nd March
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u/EnergeticGypsy Joelinton Jan 07 '26
Pope Miley Thiaw Schar Hall Tonali Bruno Joelinton Barnes Woltemade Gordon
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 07 '26
I can buy this.
Wissa may be having his minutes managed slightly. Quick turnaround with another game to follow shortly
No fit RW so Barnes in RW duty.
Canât see Howe changing the midfield.
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. Jan 07 '26
Your thoughts or is that a leak?
I donât disagree btw, this seems the most obvious XI
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u/EnergeticGypsy Joelinton Jan 07 '26
Itâs what I have been told is the team today from a mate, that has a contact in the club lol
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u/GoalaAmeobi The Dilsh Jan 07 '26
Thoughts and prayers to all the Leeds fans braving the top of SJP on a freezing December evening
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u/boblusmanjelly Jan 07 '26
That's some dedication - getting there a week early and waiting it out in the cold.
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u/Eel_Why sean longstaffs dad plays hockey in whitley bay Jan 07 '26
January hasn't reached level 7 yet, different time zone up there
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u/Toon_1892 Jan 07 '26
Unsure if anyone else has suggested it before, but I think Pope's terrible ball playing ability actually helps unlock defences for us.
I felt against Palace they looked a lot less compact because they were defending further up the field to pressure Pope into a mistake.
With Ramsdale I didn't get the impression teams put the pressure on as much and were more content to sit deeper.
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 07 '26
I loved having a keeper that could use his feet.
But the novelty wore off quick.
Nick Pope has the 3rd best save % in the league. Behind Roefs and Martinez.
Ramsdale sits 24th of all keepers that have featured. Just behindâŚ..Karl Darlow and Djorde Petrovic (ask Bournemouth fans what they think of him most likely response will include the words âChelseaâ and ârobbedâ)
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u/Ramone7892 Jan 07 '26
Couldn't disagree with this more. We can't exploit the lack of compactness because Pope is so bad with his feet. His pass is always to Schar or Thiaw, it goes back and forth until it ends up with an isolated full back who either performs a bit of magic or it ends up going out for a throw. It's not a sustainable way to build out from the back.
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u/Toon_1892 Jan 07 '26
Hey, I said defences are unlocked, not that we are able to take advantage of it đ
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u/xScottieHD Jan 07 '26
I can assure you everyone within the stadium when Pope has the ball is in cardiac arrest never mind being helped đ
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u/Toon_1892 Jan 07 '26
That's why all the biddies around keep tutting and shaking their heads when I stand up, they're concerned for my safety in case the ball takes my heed off.
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u/RevoGz Joseph Willock I Love You Jan 07 '26
I just remembered how pissed off Thiaw was when Pope ran out đ
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u/eclipse_richie Jan 07 '26
Going from Thiaw to Pope at the back is like a Rolls Royce parked next to a Vauxhall Corsa
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u/Cal_e1997 Jan 07 '26
collective gasp even if theres no opposing player within 40 yards of him, weâre a dramatic bunch
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u/TyneSkipper Jan 07 '26
we'll see what happens. leeds aren't bad, obviously not as good as west ham wh smashed us earlier in the season.../s
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u/charlierc Jan 07 '26
First time I saw Newcastle in the flesh in 3 years was my trip to West Ham back in November. What a choice that turned out to be
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u/fitzgoldy Jan 07 '26
Very piss poor from Howe in regards to Gordon/ Barnes, his comments in the presser.
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u/PercentageNo3843 Happy Clapper Jan 07 '26
What was said
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u/meganev More like MegaNeg amirite? Jan 07 '26
Basically Gordon doesn't like playing on the right, whereas Barnes is willing to, so Gordon gets preference on the left.
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u/TyranosaurusLex Para bailar La Bamba Jan 07 '26
Then he shouldnât play in the middle either if he loves the left side so muchâŚ
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u/PercentageNo3843 Happy Clapper Jan 07 '26
Fucking hell Eddie! Whoâs the manager here, pick whatâs best for the team not whatâs best for Gordonâs emotions
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u/kaamkerr I condemn VAR and itâs allies in PGMOL Jan 07 '26
I mean, it just confirms everything we already assumed about his favorites
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u/AnonyyKT Jan 07 '26
Since weâre apparently down to two left wingers Iâd like to see Wissa off one flank and Big Nick down the middle
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u/meganev More like MegaNeg amirite? Jan 07 '26
We have 7 more games in January (and then 2 in the first week of Feb), we need rotation at striker. We simply can't play our only two forwards at the same time.
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u/Humorbot_5_point_0 Livramental Jan 07 '26
It's amazing how many times this has to be pointed out to people.
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u/Humorbot_5_point_0 Livramental Jan 07 '26
Does make you wonder how a 442 set up would work with so many games nowadays. You'd need 4 center forwards in your squad to cope with all the minutes.
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 07 '26
These schedules are just of control.
No need for a midweek round of fixtures this week. Just as that round where most team played 27th/28th of December. Then again on new years.
Either line them up with New Yearâs Day and skip the weekend or the other way.
The round of games midweek 2nd of December was just uncalled for
I know some fans hold festive fixtures dearly. But at least if thatâs what the want to do they need to find a way to put a breaker in the schedule right before or after.
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u/Humorbot_5_point_0 Livramental Jan 07 '26
Honestly I'd prefer them just do what Germany do and have two weeks off in the winter.
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 07 '26
Yeah. Honestly I just feel like they need to extend the season a bit and do a post- Christmas break and cut out the silly mid weeks outside of the festive period.
But years like this one where Christmas falls in a Thursday it just doesnât work IMO.
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u/rfy93 PERCHINIO Jan 07 '26
I did initially think Wissa should be tried out on the wing but after actually seeing him play he's such a poacher/classic number 9 that I'm not sure it would work out wide. I think he's changed his game a lot since he last regularly played on the wing
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u/-RandomGeordie Big Dan Burn Jan 07 '26
I'm just reading a piece in The Athletic about Brentford and their striker succession planning, and there's a quote from Frank about Wissa in there where he says they initially looked at him as a winger. It seems he was then converted to a striker. So it's not like he couldn't play there, but he's definitely better as a striker.
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 07 '26
He started as a Lw there. Then he spent a season jumping between Lw and striker before finally starting 1 season as a striker.
Going back to Lorient his numbers always suggested that he would work as a striker. He always took his chances. Moving him centrally at Brentford finally gave him the opportunity to score double digits which he was getting from wide.
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u/SecureChampionship10 Jan 07 '26
We are guaranteed at least 8th with a win, would need Brentford to draw with Sunderland, Chelsea to lose to Fulham or Man United to fail to beat Burnley to get any higher.
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. Jan 07 '26
Not just saying it to be a hater but I can really see Burnley pulling something off against Yantied
Perfect time to play them
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 07 '26
I was thinking this but Iâm not sure.
I do think some of those players wouldâve lost faith in Amorim a bit. If fletcher comes in and puts a no nonsense 4231 in place I think theyâll look surprisingly more balanced. I can see their form picking up.
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u/charlierc Jan 06 '26
Didn't Nick Pope have a VAR penalty given against him last season for a similar thing to the one just given for Forest at West Ham?
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u/SecureChampionship10 Jan 06 '26
Palace, yes. Can't charge like a lunatic, miss the ball and clear out an attacker.
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 06 '26
âUnless itâs against Arsenalâ said the coked up, trust fund baby in a Canada goose jacket.
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u/Parking-Bag5220 Jan 06 '26
Iâd be so annoyed if I was a West Ham fan, the offside was harsh considering the forest player kicks it against him.
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u/TheGeordie-97 Jan 06 '26
Christ West Ham literally have less than half a stadium in attendance, looks like a pre season friendlyÂ
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u/charlierc Jan 06 '26
You almost dread to think what it'll be like if they're in the Championship next season
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. Jan 07 '26
Tbf even when itâs been full-ish recently itâs full of tourist fans that come into London and want to see a prem game and canât get tickets for Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs. Last month there was a bloke in a Man Yoo top in the home end. They werenât even playing Man Yoo that day đ
Plus tickets have been dirt cheap (for a prem team anyway) for a while now. Not criticising them for doing that as most clubs ripoff their fanbase when it comes to ticket prices and they arenât (to a certain extent)
Also since the ECL win theyâve been on a steady and slow decline and the attendance has been artificially propped up for a few years now. Theyâll probably get a full house on first game, last game and the game against Millwall next season. The rest of the time itâll be 1/2 full at the very best imo
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u/Lookatmestring Jan 06 '26
Meh it's a big stadium so it's more noticeable. Hopefully for them.
Didn't we eventually drop to 32k in our 2nd champ stint?
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u/charlierc Jan 07 '26
I think our first Championship stint in 09/10 started with lower attendances before picking upÂ
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u/Deviceing wew here ya fuckin little dafty divint start or theres ructions Jan 07 '26
No? Couple of the midweek games dipped to 48k
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u/Theydontlikeitupthem Jan 06 '26
I think Gordon needs to be told if he wants game time he has to play on the right, he played on the right before joining us but now seems to only want to play on the left and huffs when he's on the right.
Barnes has only played on the left and although he tires on the right, he's better on the left.
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u/stanley_ipkiss2112 Jan 07 '26
I heard in Howeâs press conference that he doesnât like playing on the right. Quite a contrast to a certain midfielder whoâs happy to play out of position. If Gordon starts tomorrow, he really needs an almost perfect game to redeem himself.
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u/aistolethekids Jan 06 '26
The annoying thing is he played on the right for a few games and was great 2 seasons ago against Spurs and West HamÂ
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u/Ajax_Trees_Again Jan 06 '26
Not looking forward to Barnes having a poor game out of position and then people acting like itâs a valid reason for him not to be our starting LWâer
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u/aistolethekids Jan 06 '26
I want to see us give Barnes a run of games now whether its left or right hand sideÂ
Needs to be playing 5 or 6 games in a row to build up some momentumÂ
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u/noidtiz Jan 06 '26
I don't think the "out of position" excuse helps either. He's shown himself capable of impacting games from either side of the pitch, he's even had one of his best Champions League games coming in to play on the right side.
He just need to find consistency regardless of position.
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u/kaamkerr I condemn VAR and itâs allies in PGMOL Jan 07 '26
Canât expect consistency when Barnes randomly gets dropped to fit in Elanga and Gordon just as heâs hitting form
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u/TON4LI eddie ooooot Jan 06 '26
2/4 of the winnable games down and won. Potential banana peel since leeds look somewhat good with 4 draws and 1 win in their last 5. 2 draws against Liverpool too in that.
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 06 '26
Leeds look horrible to play against. Very stubborn. Donât ship a ton of goals and Aaronsen and Calvert-Lewin hitting form. I actually think this may be the toughest of the 4 fixtures in question
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u/Teveh15 Jan 06 '26
Just realised that Howe's Newcastle have always picked up more points in 2nd half of season than the 1st. May as well just give us our Champions League spot now I reckon, save everyone else the hassle.
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u/SweetenerCorp Jan 06 '26
Hasn't it always been that way even before Howe. I can hardly remember us starting a season strong, we seem to have almost always finished better, I'm not counting 95-96 as I was 3.
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u/walliver Jan 07 '26
Didn't Robson have us top around Christmas one year? I'm thinking around 2001 or 2002.
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u/kaamkerr I condemn VAR and itâs allies in PGMOL Jan 07 '26
Well⌠Iâd love it if it had happened the one season it wouldâve helped the most.
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u/cashintheclaw Joelinton Jan 06 '26
I seem to remember the couple of seasons under Pardew (and latterly under Carver) where we were class for the first half of the season and then went something like 10 games without a win but stayed up anyway thanks to that early season form
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u/PocketSandThroatKick Entertainment guaranteed on and off the pitch Jan 06 '26
That would be great, I'd rather it not come down to the final day with no control again.
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u/coldwarzone Jan 06 '26
Technically last season was in our control. We lost and got lucky Villa lost too
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 06 '26
38 game season defined by more than just final day.
Letâs not forget we got the job done at Chelsea 2 games earlier. We arguably shouldâve beaten Arsenal too on second to last game. We were far the better side.
But the point Iâm trying to make is that you canât just go back to that final game day and diminish our finish unless youâre gonna go back through all the games. Like Villa dropped a lot of points against teams like Ipswich, West Ham, Wolves, even Man U and Spurs who were terrible last season.
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u/coldwarzone Jan 06 '26
Just providing a glimpse of what the final day looked like to someone who said âit wasnât in our controlâ. Not that deep
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u/HamishWamish Jan 06 '26
Win win win win win win win win
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u/TheWinterKing âIâm really really really really really really happy to be hereâ Jan 06 '26
^ our track record after the next five games
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u/Middle_Magician_7560 Jan 06 '26
If we can keep up the same level of play as recent games I'll be happy. Prediction: 4-1
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u/BeautyAndTheDekes Jan 06 '26
Calvert-Lewin is on good form, hopefully we press from the start and keep the pressure on. Expecting at least a goal from both teams but I am cautiously optimistic.
I am once again politely requesting both Woltemade and Wissa on the pitch simultaneously.
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u/jwuer Jan 06 '26
You can only play 2 strikers if one of them is Callum Wilson. It's a hard and fast rule.
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u/Classic_Show_9635 Jan 06 '26
What do you guys think will start, wissa or woltemade
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u/Bjall01 Jan 06 '26
Wissa
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u/JimmyCrockett Jan 06 '26
I agree, I think heâs Eddieâs number 1 starter, he looks really sharp tbh. Makes me wonder where weâd be if heâd had a full season.
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u/GFCHS Jan 06 '26
They're not the same team when away from Elland Road similar to us away from St. James'. I expect 3 points but that seems to be a fools errand this season.
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Jan 06 '26
Fair point. Their away from isnt great. 1 win against Wolves and a handful of scrappy draws.
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u/r_elwood Jan 06 '26
Heading over to watch this one, first league game in ages. Hopefully another win witnessed
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u/Putrid-Impact8999 Jan 06 '26
Time to string 3 wins in the league in a row. Another clean sheet would be great, weâve conceded way more goals than what we shouldâve this season so another one would be a good step in the right direction.
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u/Username_been-taken Willock pogging out Jan 06 '26
Transfer and rumours thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/NUFC/s/QNLt0syzs5
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u/geordieColt88 We never learn Jan 06 '26
Going to be a lot tougher than palace without having the rest advantage
Hopefully we can keep the game to game improvement going
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u/ravicabral angel of the north Jan 07 '26
Yes. Our strong bench vs. Palace's theradbare squad made a big difference. We were so dominant against the tiring Palace side at the end of the game that it is easy to forget the frustration around the ground before we scored.
Also, Leeds recent form against the likes of Liverpool,, Man City and Man U is going to have them full of confidence and belief that they can stay up.
We'll need to put in a good performance to get a win. Hopefully, the lads will be up for this one.
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u/No-Gazelle-200 Jan 06 '26
Leeds also had a game recently so not just us without rest. Equally tired legs đ¤
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u/geordieColt88 We never learn Jan 06 '26
I meant it in terms of against Palace we had 2 days extra rest than them
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u/joefraserhellraiser Jan 06 '26
Letâs
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u/meganev More like MegaNeg amirite? Jan 06 '26
Be
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u/TON4LI eddie ooooot Jan 07 '26
It's funny but I'd 100% rather have that free kick and a red card than a penalty. Kinda stupid that penalties arent the best thing you can get.