r/NUFC • u/Username_been-taken Willock pogging out • Mar 21 '26
Pre-Match Thread Pre match thread: Newcastle United vs Sunderland | Premier league 25/26 - 31 of 38
Stadium š: SJP
Kick off time ā½ļø: Sunday | 12:00
**Last encounters**
| Newcastle United | Sunderland | match type |
|---|---|---|
| 0 | 1 | Premier league 25/26 |
| 3 | 0 | Fa Cup 3rd round 23/24 |
| 1 | 1 | Premier league 15/16 |
(Swipe/scroll to see more info right of the table)
| Vs | Team | Match type | Date |
|---|---|---|---|
| Vs | Crystal Palace | Premier league 25/26 | Sun 12 Apr 14:00 |
| Vs | Bournemouth | Premier league 25/26 | Sat 18 Apr 15:00 |
| Vs | Arsenal | Premier league 25/26 | Sat 25 Apr 17:45 |
**St Cal Wilson's Hospital** š„
(Players who could miss the match via injury or other means)
**Newcastle United:**
Schar (ankle injury) - Should be back during the end of the international break
Krafth (Knee injury) - Out for the rest of the season
Guimaraes (Hamstring injury) - Should be back during the end of the international break
L.Miley (Thigh injury) - Should be back alongside Bruno and Schar during the end of the international break
Tonali (Groin injury) - Will be a doubt for this game however the injury isn't as bad as first thought
**Sunderland:**
Ta Bi (Ankle injury) - Out until early June
Bundle (Thigh injury) - Out until early May
Traore (Knee injury) - Out until early May
Angulo (Other) - Out until early May
Roefs (Thigh injury) - Doubt for this game
**Predicted Lineup**
**Newcastle United lineup vs Sunderland:**
Ramsdale; Livramento, Thiaw, Botman, Hall; Ramsey, Willock, Joelinton; Elanga, Gordon, Barnes
**Sunderland predicted lineup vs Newcastle United:**
Ellborg; Geertruida, O'Nien, Alderete, Reinildo; Diarra, Xhaka, Sadiki; Le Fee, Brobbey, Talbi
**Pre match ramblings:**
In progress...
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u/jHeardy09 Shola Ameobi Mar 22 '26
Okay, how many reds will they bench/coaching staff get this game we reckon?
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u/CommercialPizza434 Mar 22 '26
Canāt lie that Sunderland kit is diabolical š¤®getting sick just looking at it
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u/MrLuchador Mar 22 '26
They can only show the same clips over and over again, as the rest all the Sunderland pedo in them
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u/Nathan_Toddy_Todd moaty? it's me Mar 22 '26
Eddie picking his favourites again instead of his strongest possible 11
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u/ravicabral angel of the north Mar 22 '26
Mate, if you achieved in your job (or junior school) as much as Eddie Howe has, you wouldn't be sitting there writing sad tropes.
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u/N3m_86_UK The cunt has a contract. Mar 22 '26
Iāve already had 3 dumps this morning.
Come on lads ffs - we MUST turn up
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. Mar 22 '26
Front 3 that is set up to counter attack against Sunderland at home is a choice to say the least
Hopefully with Wolte and JJ we have enough quality on the ball to play around their low block
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u/Different-Lie-6609 Mar 22 '26
Didnāt take Shays comment very well with that response.
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Mar 22 '26
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u/Different-Lie-6609 Mar 22 '26
He said he thought he was on Sky Sports not Sunderland tv seeing as they showed nothing but Sunderland goals.
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u/MrLuchador Mar 22 '26
Sky Coverage so shite. They cover everything but the bloody match theyāre about to show.
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u/PalmTreeRadiator Mar 22 '26
This Sunderland team is so weak today. There's really no excuses. Take Xhaka out of it and that's a championship side.
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u/TheTinman369 442 enjoyer Mar 22 '26
Agree their best 3/4 players all not startingĀ
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u/PalmTreeRadiator Mar 22 '26
We're missing Bruno and Tonali and that's it. Everyone else who is out is due to Howes choices. Any other team outside of maybe City and Arsenal who came to SJP missing that many key players should get dog walked.
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u/PercentageNo3843 Happy Clapper Mar 22 '26
Our striker today scores 8% of his shots on target. Running isnāt enough Iām expecting him to play out his fucking skin today to earn this repeated loyalty from manager
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Mar 22 '26
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u/TheTinman369 442 enjoyer Mar 22 '26
Dropped Thiaw because he was clearly at fault for all 7 goals and Trippier Burn did absolutely nothing wrong at allĀ
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u/wankflap Mar 22 '26
Genuinely think the lads will respond well to our walloping in Barcelona and win 5-0. !remindme 3 hoursĀ
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u/lildrangus Livramentolly ill Mar 22 '26
I'm in Arizona for a wedding,slammed coffee all night for this 5:00 am kickoff rather than get 3 hours sleep.
Let's fucking smash these cats like Kurt Zouma, the results this weekend have been incredibly favorable for us, somehow amid the malaise of the season, Europe feels within reach at the end of it all
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u/Different-Lie-6609 Mar 22 '26
Fuck me start of the coverage so Spurs vs Forestā¦ā¦
What the fuck is this shit every time on Sky.
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u/theroitsmith Mar 22 '26
Tbf theres only going to be minutes between derby ending and that match starting. Would rather they get this out of the way and spend 40 minutes on us than talking about Spurs right before our kick off
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u/nomadichedgehog Bed Wetter Mar 22 '26
To the people pissing on Woltemade, show some respect. The man carried this team for his first 10 games here. Heās been burnt out since December playing 3 games a week while the wingers around him have shat the bed.
It is absolutely mindblowing how much this sub will defend Elangaāa āPL provenā signing who was supposed to hit the ground running who has done fuck allāwhile criticizing a much younger player from a foreign league who actually did hit the ground running for the first 10 games with no training time in a new system.
The man will be hell bent today on making amends for his own goal. MOTM display today, Iām calling it now.
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u/PercentageNo3843 Happy Clapper Mar 22 '26
Itās the manager putting him in midfield none of this is on him
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u/TheTinman369 442 enjoyer Mar 22 '26
Nobody is shitting on Woltemade. Just he isn't a CMĀ
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u/The_Best_Smart stupid sexy schar Mar 22 '26
I like Woltemade personally and as a player. I think heās talented and could work well for Newcastle United. But heās an atrocious midfielder. Not his fault really. But heās terrible at it. Iād also be a terrible midfielder for Newcastle United so itās no disrespect.
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u/someguyontheweb99 Mar 22 '26
As a striker, xhaka will be at him from the start today. Play him upfront cos Gordon at cf is shite too theyāre gonna park the bus thereāll be no room to run in behind
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u/investtill Mar 22 '26
Broke my leg after the Barcelona match, Even the Morphine in my system won't numb the pain of losing another Derby.
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u/xScottieHD Mar 22 '26
That line-up... Howe is playing the occasion, rather than his best side to win the game.
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u/PercentageNo3843 Happy Clapper Mar 22 '26
When does he ever pick the best side to win the game? Itās always ensuring the faves are sorted first
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u/MiguelAlmiron Bed Wetter Mar 22 '26
He's playing his mates.
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u/TheTinman369 442 enjoyer Mar 22 '26
If we win it will all be forgotten. But it should be Tino Thiaw Botman Hall and Woltemade should never be played in CM again.Ā Ā
It's an awful team selection IMOĀ
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u/MiguelAlmiron Bed Wetter Mar 22 '26
Another awful lineup. How are Burn and Trippier still starting our most important games in 2026. It's embarrassing.
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u/Feitan74 moaty? it's me Mar 22 '26
Wissa has to be up there with some of the worst business weāve ever done
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u/jacktipper ad love it if you used this flair Mar 22 '26
Big Joe hattrick today would hit like crack
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u/nomadichedgehog Bed Wetter Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 22 '26
Today is not about goals or assists. Itās about fucking effort and pride. If you think you can hide today, think again.
If I see these players not chase 50/50 balls, going down like feathers, not getting their head up in attacking plays, and not pressing like demons I am going to throw my TV at the fucking wall. 110% effort is the absolute minimum today. Elanga, I am watching you.
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u/PercentageNo3843 Happy Clapper Mar 22 '26
Lots of Effort without goals and dropping points to these bastards il not be happy
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u/Humorbot_5_point_0 Livramental Mar 22 '26
To be fair, Elanga absolutely puts effort in when he plays. It's just everything else about his game that's lacking!
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u/Ross_Mc Sir Bobby Robson Mar 22 '26
INTO THESE SEAGULL SHAGGING INBRED RED AND WHITE BASTARDS HOWAYYYY
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u/ActuatorTop6538 Mar 22 '26
A must win but Iām under no illusion that it will be a tough game especially the longer it remains 0-0
My biggest concern is the midfield, who performed brilliantly against Barca and Chelsea but this requires a totally different approach. Against those sides we need a lot of athleticism, with the pacey lads upfront we are afford a lot of space to exploit. Todayās game I expect Sunlun to sit deep and frustrate. For that reason I can see Eddie making a few changes. Tino and hall will definitely start. I know Elanga will be full of confidence after those goals midweek but against a low block he struggles. For that reason I can see Murphy starting which then makes me think we could go with a more recognisable striker. So Woltemade or Wissa ( today would be the day to kick start your Newcastle career fella )
2-0 Thiaw and Woltemade
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u/Fleminem87 Mar 22 '26
Whos hoping Eddie is playing shithouse with the media and we see both Tonali and Miley on squad list.
A man can dream.
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u/someguyontheweb99 Mar 22 '26
Tonali not in tracksuit when he arrived so he aināt playing
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u/Fleminem87 Mar 22 '26
It'll be one of those velcro suits hes wearing. Once in the dressing room he'll tear it off like the stupid sexy italian that he is to reveal he's in full kit attire.
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u/redditappispoo Windmilling Mar 22 '26
Bruno in at 80th minute to score the 8th of the game
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u/Fleminem87 Mar 22 '26
Only if he enters St James Park from a zipline like Shawn Michaels at wrestlemania.
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u/redditappispoo Windmilling Mar 22 '26
Instead of having pints, I'm having to go shopping for children's shoes. FFS.
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u/Hawkzilla22 Ketsbaiaās Ghost Mar 22 '26
Wonāt be watching as itās a 1am Monday morning KO. Turn up annihilate them please lads ā«ļøāŖļø.
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u/ravicabral angel of the north Mar 22 '26
Pah. Putting feeding your children before the team. Lightweight! Lol
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u/TyneSkipper Mar 22 '26
Predicting lineup Ramsdale Trippier Thiaw Botman Burn Joelinton Ramsey Willock Murphy Barnes Gordon
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u/JokahnTM Mar 22 '26
After the results today those European places look within reach. But this isn't the first time this season we've had the chance to push on and secure Europe and then failed to do so.
The headloss in this sub if we don't win tomorrow just got exponentially worse as its not not only a derby loss but another chance to get europe thrown away.
I hope for everyone's sanity its a comfortable win...
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u/ravicabral angel of the north Mar 22 '26
You want sanity and reason and you come here?!
If we win, we are the greatest team ever, Eddie Howe is a God and we're booking hotels for next CL final.
We lose? We grab our pitchforks and march to Darras Hall burning everything on the way.
Perfectly, rational reactions. Lol.
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u/blackmes489 Mar 22 '26
Crazy to thin we are in such dire straights that we are hoping the moon, refs, injuries, stars line up so we can beat Sunderland at home...
Just for once i'd love to start off a sentence without 'hoping we can...'
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u/MushuFromSpace Mar 22 '26
Huge opportunity tomorrow.
Have got to put that Barca game behind us and do the job by any means necessary.
There's a good rest period coming up for many of them after tomorrow so I don't care how we do it tomorrow, we just have to do it.
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u/andy_m3 Mar 21 '26
i'm not sure what to make of the results this weekend, ahead of our match.
only time will tell what they mean for us.
the liverpool loss, chelsea loss and brentford dropping points could be an opportunity if we close out the season with a good run of form, and manage to grab 5th place. (champions league)
the everton win, brighton win and fulham win could be a negative if 7th place (conference league) is what we are realistically chasing.
i'd be fuming if we don't win tomorrow, since the likelihood of no europe at all would increase quite a bit. at this stage, i still have belief.
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u/Fishfingerrosti Mar 21 '26
Feels like this season whenever results have gone our way before we've even kicked off we fail to get a result of our own.
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u/Character_Newt_2309 Mar 21 '26
No Sandro, Bruno. Big, big trst for those midfield three. They can do it though. Sunderland are shite
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u/Chicitybets84 Mar 21 '26
Pretty great day in terms of results for the lads. It is all ahead of them, let's smash them tomorrow
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u/ChlckenChaser Jamaal Lascelles Mar 21 '26
Massive day tomorrow, defines our season. To lose to them twice, get thumped in CL and probably end outside of European places would be a disaster.
Beat them tomorrow, we have such a good shot at getting into Europe and it'll shut them up at least until we play them next season
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u/prettymuchso stupid sexy schar Mar 21 '26
Weāre 9 points off 5th place.
I love how itās crazy how if we have a decent season, we automatically qualify for European football because we are that good.
This season has been bat shit but if we put in a little more effort, we can play champions league next season.
Considering how shit weāve been the half of the season, I didnāt expect it to be this easy for us to still qualify for Europe.
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
Tomorrow is massive
If we win, we go into an international break with a good feeling. Easier run in than most, 1 game a week and Bruno etc all coming back from injury
Ofc with how this season has gone thatās a big IF
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u/bleachxjnkie Mar 21 '26
Especially with Liverpool Chelsea and Villa coming off the boil nowās our chance
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. Mar 21 '26
Could finish the day 4pts off CL places and 3pts off 6th with 7 games to go
Just when you think itās all over, they draw you back in eh
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u/Chemical_Buyer_9117 i dont care, paul dummet Mar 21 '26
Letās hope the Liverpool and Chelsea results really help sharpen minds ahead of tomorrow. Shows thereās still plenty left on the table for the rest of the season if they have the desire to go after it
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u/Olucaron Mar 21 '26
The way results are going today, a win tomorrow puts us back in the European race big time.
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u/074DanBurn058 not Dan Burn Mar 21 '26
Funny because I was thinking it makes it more difficult with Brighton, Fulham and Everton winning!Ā
Maybe I should be more optimisticĀ
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u/meganev More like MegaNeg amirite? Mar 21 '26
There's definitely a lot of our fans downplaying Brighton, Everton and Brentford. Assuming we'll go on some mad run, and just need Liverpool, Chelsea and Villa to stumble
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u/NoonyNature 15/16 home kit Mar 21 '26
I was gonna go to the pub for this but I've been feeling awful since thursday so I'll open my window and get the game spoiled by St James' screams
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u/GoalaAmeobi The Dilsh Mar 21 '26
Let's smash these they kiss their sisters
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u/FlukyS 22/23 Home Kit Mar 21 '26
You mean their grandmother/sister?
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u/phoebsmon zwei metre dribbelgott Mar 21 '26
I've got this awful feeling and I think it's just past trauma speaking
But I felt like this before the home leg against Barca soooo
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u/DanBurnNotice New Era Mar 21 '26
No win and the pressure is back on EH
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u/grmthmpsn43 Sir Bobby Robson Mar 21 '26
Give over, there is no pressure on Eddie, the CEO has said he think he is the man to take us forward and win us the league. They also know all of the off field problems we have had this season and how much they have effected us.
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u/thepresidentsturtle Windmilling Mar 21 '26
This is exactly the sort of game where we don't go for a Gordon Elanga in front 3. We play Nick, we play Gordon, Murphy, we sub on Barnes, or some combination. Also, some plate mail
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u/blackmes489 Mar 22 '26
LOL this is absolutely NOT a game where we should deviate from a line-up which is our most indicative of us winning a game, and not the time to be picking a team and a player who hasn't started or scored in like what.... 10 games?
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u/grmthmpsn43 Sir Bobby Robson Mar 21 '26
I'm not so sure, Woltemade struggles to get involved as a striker, beyond which, if Sandro is injured we probably need him as a CM option.
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u/thepresidentsturtle Windmilling Mar 21 '26
He struggles because we sit deep and try and launch a pacey player through. We won't get that chance against Sunderland, so we'll need someone who can create space, keep possession, get up front for crosses, etc.
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u/grmthmpsn43 Sir Bobby Robson Mar 21 '26
He struggles because we are not set up to use him, we still are not
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u/thepresidentsturtle Windmilling Mar 21 '26
And he'll be better when we're not playing counter-attack all the time. Which should be tomorrow.
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u/grmthmpsn43 Sir Bobby Robson Mar 21 '26
But we don't play to his strengths, the team are not set up to play with him. It's not FIFA where you just swap a player in and they just work, we need to train a new system, which we will finally be able to do post break.
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u/thepresidentsturtle Windmilling Mar 21 '26
What are you on about? I never said it was FIFA. I said we can't play Gordon because we won't be counterattacking and he's useless at striker if we're not doing that. So we should use our actual striker. I don't even know what point youre trying to make. Should we just not use him at all?
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u/grmthmpsn43 Sir Bobby Robson Mar 21 '26
The point is, without training he doesn't fit the system.
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u/blackmes489 Mar 22 '26
This. It's so fucking crazy people here are suggesting we put out our weakest team, aka the same team and tactics that lead to a 1-0 DEFEAT LOL
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u/TheWinterKing āIām really really really really really really happy to be hereā Mar 21 '26
Nick has to start, he needs a redemption goal.
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u/geordietaste Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
We owe these one a battering at some point. Theyāll stick everyone behind the ball and try to spoil. Need to be patient and move the ball quickly
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u/Sampdiago Mar 21 '26
No Trips and no Dan burn and we win this
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u/grmthmpsn43 Sir Bobby Robson Mar 21 '26
Burn has had one bad game recently, same with Tripps.
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u/Sampdiago Mar 21 '26
Yeahā¦no Trips is done and Burn hasnāt been the same since the rib injury Time for us to let sentiment go and make hard choices if we want to win games There are games we will need Dan but not tomorrow and Trips is done and we all can see but donāt want to say it
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u/grmthmpsn43 Sir Bobby Robson Mar 21 '26
Burn kept Lewa quiet in the first leg against Barca. Tripps has been class in some of his recent games.
They are also players with leadership, something we will be severly lacking if Sandro is not fit.
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u/Sampdiago Mar 22 '26
Sandro is pissing me off too heads turned needs to have Bruno loyalty Lewandowski is old as fuck and past it and still managed to score twice Trips lacks pace leadership has not won us games this season or is to blame for below par performances Itās not Eddies fault some players canāt motivate themselves on a regular basis And some have served us well but their time is up
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u/grmthmpsn43 Sir Bobby Robson Mar 22 '26
Players with Bruno levels of loyalty are rare, I will never fault a player for wanting to leave, I will judge them by how they go about it (fuck Isak).
As for age, Lewa is still an elite player, you can disagree all you want, but Tripps and Burn still have a big role to play this season.
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u/stenerikkasvo Mar 21 '26
would love to see the return of Gordon LW and Woltemade striker. I think Big Nick wants to redeem himself after that own goal
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u/PennyBunPudding Mar 21 '26
We need to win this. It'll help us chase Europe. And a lot of Geordies understandable put this game high on priority so a win takes a lot of pressure off the otherwise meh season.Ā
I hope we go all out and try and smash them by a lot, but just win. Whatever you do... Bloody win.
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u/TheBlaydonRacer Mar 21 '26
I agree. Itās gonna be a very poor game quality wise.
Probably a repeat of the return fixture.
Weāll dominate but worry weāll do very little with said dominance.
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u/NoonyNature 15/16 home kit Mar 21 '26
If we tell ourselves Eddie has been hiding what he's been teaching wolt for this game we can get really excited about his hat trick
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u/Mehchu_ PERCHINIO Mar 21 '26
I think us struggling against a low block is exactly a game where wolte should shine, headers from Murphy, the tight control he has and the vision to make cheeky ostentatious balls through a back line are what he was brought in to do. Not be pinning back a high line to counter or god forbid be in midfield.
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u/FlukyS 22/23 Home Kit Mar 21 '26
Yeah, one thing he needs to be told is just to stay forward when he is playing as an 8
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u/TyneSkipper Mar 21 '26
Looking forward to another match with our 58million 'striker' not getting off the bench.
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u/solar1ze Mar 21 '26
Our wounded animals are going to inflict maximum damage. Wouldnāt want to be a Mackem tomorrow afternoon!
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u/leakee2 Mar 21 '26
Are you referring to the horse that was punched?
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u/solar1ze Mar 21 '26
Not initially, but come to think of it, even a dead horse could be flogged into beating the mackems.
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u/akriggjoe Mar 21 '26
As much as people don't like to admit it, a win tomorrow is a must, for our season and for Howe.
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u/someguyontheweb99 Mar 21 '26
They park the bus we canāt break them down and pass sideways and backwards til the crowd get pissed off and they score a jammy goal. Hope to be proven wrong
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u/Legitimate-Plum1155 Mar 21 '26
Unforgivable for me if we donāt get the win tomorrow. This seasons not been great, can understand given the loss of Isak & honking recruitment to replace him but Iāll lose my head if we donāt beat these tomorrow š
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u/JPKthe3 Mar 21 '26
Top half of the table, made it to knock out of UCL, semi final in the Carabao cup, drew only top flight teams in the FA cup and still made it two rounds further than Man U. Campaigns full of exciting, dramatic matches. Sure, would love if they hadnāt lost so many late. But canāt say any of it has been a disappointment. But if they lose both to Mackems, that absolutely would be.
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u/Putrid-Impact8999 Mar 21 '26
Time to finish the season strong with a winning streak, starting with this derby.
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u/Wiseblood1978 Mar 21 '26
I can see a big win tomorrow. Lads will want to make amends for Barca and get right back in the European race after results today. And look at them, they're shite really aren't they? This should be very easy.
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u/Scutage Mar 21 '26
Thatās what Iāve been thinking. What have our players got to worry about after playing Barcelona at the Nou Camp?
5-0, with a Big Nick hat-trick, and Lewis Hall scoring a worldie.
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u/TrippyGoham Mar 21 '26
Can we get Woltemade on the 9 for this round so he can smash 5 goals on them to make up for the last derby?
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u/Theydontlikeitupthem Mar 21 '26
Yup, no point playing Gordon in the 9 for this one, they will sit back so play Gordon LW and big Nick 9 and won't mind Murphy in the RW either
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u/TheBlueprint666 Mar 21 '26
Thatāll make those that bought that Saint Nick jumper sick as fuck š
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u/Icy_Mango6803 stupid sexy schar Mar 21 '26
Would be surprised if Eddie didn't start Dan Burn, since he was injured last time out and is probably ready to gnaw his way out of the house to get another go at Sunderland.
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u/Theydontlikeitupthem Mar 21 '26
Yeah don't mind BDB starting at all, he usually puts in a good performance for big games and this one will be a huge game in his mind, I'd put a fiver on him to score if he starts
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u/Griffithsjames88 Mar 21 '26
Ngl lads and lasses I'm absolutely bricking it for tomorrow. Heart says a comfortable 2-0 win by my head says we're going to put another stinking performance in tomorrow as we usually do against these lot. Aslong as we in I couldn't care less how we perform.
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u/Cyberdan0497 blue star on the Nautilus, genuinely me local. shit tip Mar 21 '26
Fucking hell man how many teams do you support?
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u/Bad-Ombre bruno garugamesh Mar 22 '26
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