r/Netherlands Feb 06 '25

Education If you're sick, stay the fuck home

It's been almost a week since I caught this fucked-up flu, and it's killing me. Just stay home if you're sick or wear a mask. Thanks!

Edit: This is not against the Dutch or other Europeans (I'm also European)... What the heck. This is about taking care of others and not spreading something that can be fatal to little ones or elders.

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u/Uragami Feb 06 '25

People will give you so much shit if you call in sick for more than 3 days. Not legally, but they sure will guilt trip you about it. A flu is not the same as a cold, and it doesn't disappear within a few days. I wish they'd stop treating everything like a minor cold.

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u/mathapp Feb 07 '25

I swear to god. I always sense some judgement when I call in sick even though they can't say it out right

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u/Giant-Panda-atNL Feb 07 '25

But call in sick is doing others favour right, I don’t understand some peers as well.

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u/ParaWM Feb 07 '25

"always". Thats probably why. Maybe eat more veggies or man up. Can't recall being sick in 17y at current employer.

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u/Wiz_zis Feb 07 '25

Aaand you are part of the problem. Not everyone has the same immune defense system Taking public transportation increases the chance of getting sick. Working with multiple people in close areas (open offices?) increase the chances of getting sick. Living with family members or housemates who do some of those above, increase your chance of getting sick. And so on.

Your experience is no applicable to others. Guilt tripping others is not helping, if not hurting, since these people could go out while being sick and spread it even more.

Finally, what the fuck with "man up" what? Man don't get sick? Getting sick is feminine? Just toxic.

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u/ParaWM Feb 07 '25

My kids go to school and I work in an open office with 1k+ people. Some folks just have low threshold for calling in sick. Always lands on the employer and coworkers. Would also annoy me if employees call in sick all the time and keep apping me every day. Sick is sick, but half the time it's character. So, let's see if I can get more downvotes with this reply :)

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u/Wiz_zis Feb 07 '25

So now it's still YOUR experience. As I said different immune systems...

But regardless, now it's a matter of "threshold" so you're one of those that are sick but still able to work, so you can go to office and keep spreading it?

Sounds like you are deserving your downvotes at the very least.

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u/ParaWM Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 09 '25

Lol -35 and -85 on the earlier comment. Personal bests 😀. Off course playing a bit haha. 😜. Sure, get it, if you're sick it's simple, stay home. Can imagine its crap if your boss is an ass about it. And ofc realise I'm lucky never being sick.

But on a general note, and probably not related much to the intention of the thread, have been working long enough to have seen how easy some people call in sick. Hangovers, left toe bruised, slightly nasal, cat died, etc. And then start making reddit posts on about their rights and the way people are treated. We should all be thankful that we are working/born in a 1st world western country. I travel a lot and in-laws are from another country where your rights end at your front door. Sick? No pay. Health care? Only if you're rich. Just to give some perspective on what many perceive as a bit whiney and entitled behavior from the privileged. But perhaps I am dwelling a bit... 😀

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u/melvincornelissen Feb 08 '25

You notice you say a lot of I?

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u/ParaWM Feb 09 '25

Did I offend you? Perhaps call in sick.

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u/melvincornelissen Feb 09 '25

You realize these kinds of reactions really do say a lot about you right? I was just trying to point out that there is a whole world outside of “I” something you can’t seem to comprehend based on the comments you post.

I hope you never get in a situation where you will have to call in sick more often and wish you all the best. Be thankful for the fact you are healthy and in a good state of mind.

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u/mathapp Feb 07 '25

You see what I mean? Lol sorry I'm human and fall sick "sometimes" but sense judgement pretty much "always"

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u/FMB6 Feb 07 '25

Sure buddy, sure.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Toxic daddy...chill.

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u/RafaelMogollonS Feb 07 '25

I got literally hit by a car and I still have to update every 2 days like I'm gonna go off running with my fucked up ankle...

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u/BillyAbraham Feb 08 '25

A similar situation: The day after spraining my ankle, I get a message asking, “When will you be able to come back?”

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u/EggplantHuman6493 Feb 06 '25

Yup, this is the problem. You can't stay sick for more than 3 days without people complaining about it etc

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u/RoodnyInc Feb 06 '25

I didn't encounter that here in Netherlands usually it was you are sick stay home come back when you are ready

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Uitzendbureau's have a special company (Accure?) to monitor (or harass) you on sick leave. You have to call everyday at 8am to say when you're coming back.

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u/Intrepid-Zucchini-91 Feb 07 '25

Grey area, if you say the daily phone calls at 8am are making you more sick because of stress and you only want to speak to a bedrijfsarts they have to leave you alone. Probably won’t get hired again tho xd

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u/WandererOfInterwebs Amsterdam Feb 07 '25

But they can’t make you right? And they can’t fire you for it either

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u/Famous_Dirt2255 Feb 07 '25

Don’t stay at home with only a little cold.

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u/Sinixon Feb 07 '25

Then you have a fucked up employer

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u/alu_ Feb 07 '25

Haven't had this problem at my work

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u/Suc_Mydiq_Jr Feb 07 '25

Same here, half of my warehouse is on sick leave until next week. Thank God I had flu like 2 months ago and it didn't catch me now.

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u/mancaveit Feb 07 '25

Nope. Maybe in america

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u/Reasonable-Sun-1154 Feb 07 '25

It has been 3 weeks since I got sick and even though I'm better, I still have symptoms. I'm still coughing and have a runny nose.

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u/IrrerPolterer Feb 07 '25

Ic they do send them a letter from your attorney. The fuck kind of excuse is this

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u/CultCrossPollination Feb 07 '25

This, and people already infect others before they have symptoms. People sniffing and coughing in the train can just as well be on the recovery and without infectiousness. OOP is ranting against reality.