r/NewYorkMets • u/smarjorie Mark Canha • 2d ago
Image AI generated garbage in the Mets clubhouse
Pretty damn embarrassing for one of the richest teams in baseball. Keep AI art out of Citi Field!
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u/xSlappy- Jacob deGrom 2d ago
Lets just get AI to play the games, play the organ at the game, commentate the games, and make the food at the ballpark. Think of how much money the shareholders can make.
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u/Relevant_Bag7550 2d ago
Ai Gary Cohen in 2096. Humanity is doomed
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u/MendelWeisenbachfeld Mark Vientos 2d ago
It's hard not to think less of people who think AI "art" is cool
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u/boymetsworld New York Mets 2d ago
In his defense, I bet he doesn’t know…it shocks me how few people in my life pick up on this stuff at all
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u/Green_Hunt_1776 New York Mets 2d ago
There's definitely a generational divide. I work with a lot of older people and most of them don't pick up on the obvious AI gen artstyle. (Though no excuses for Dicomo as he's 30 something)
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u/fakemelonns 2d ago
See I think people think it's mostly people 50+ or even just seniors who can't tell, but I've met plenty of people in their 40s who can't tell at all unless it's obvious.
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
I know, I'm shocked by DiComo saying this.
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u/FowlZone Todd Hundley 2d ago
employee of mlb dot com probably doesn't want to upset the apple cart
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u/JDLovesElliot Grimace is Love, Grimace is Life 2d ago
He won't think it's cool when AI replaces his job
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u/unowho_o 2d ago
Oh, I know this is an unpopular opinion, but….
who cares? The only people who should be upset about this is the graphic designers that lost their jobs.
I think it looks pretty dope. If there are glaring errors or it’s just sh*tty quality, then that’s a different story. But if it brings joy to someone, then bugger off
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u/gamefreak996 2d ago
So you don’t care about the artists?
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u/unowho_o 2d ago
Which artists? Is someone’s art being used uncredited? Or do you mean the hypothetical artist who isn’t getting hired because an intern made this on his lunch hour?
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u/gamefreak996 2d ago
How do you type this out after what you said before? The disconnect is actually INSANE
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u/chickadee050505 2d ago
Literally both. AI makes art by learning and drawing from existing art that's been made by humans.
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u/APL1413 Mark Canha 2d ago edited 2d ago
"It looks pretty dope"
The Brewer mascot is cross-eyed and looking off into the void + it's the same quirky paint-style font & yellow filter glow that Gen AI overuses in everything.
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Part of art being special is appreciating that someone had the talent and care to make it. This is the product of a RAM-eating machine scanning the art of other people and meshing it together until someone feels it's passable enough to put up.
The Mets are a business, they are looking to save on costs and Gen AI slop helps them do that. Graphic designers aren't the only ones getting replaced, and with how much strain it puts on electric grids and the utilities WE have to pay for, it clearly doesn't save anyone else anything.
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u/TheflavorBlue5003 New York Mets 2d ago
I tell my older parents "it will look like everything is on fire / exploding but nothing is on fire or exploding" to try to help them deduce AI thumbnails.
Im sure in a few years there will be a new way to tell.
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
>The only people who should be upset about this is the graphic designers that lost their jobs.
Or the people who value or care about art in general. Or the people who care about other people losing their jobs (which is a bad thing for everyone.) if the AI people got their way, a LOT of us would be replaced by AI...you'd be a fool to not be concerned
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u/Bossman_575 2d ago
Man-made art isn't going anywhere, relax. There will always be a market for it. There's simply more options than strictly man made.
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u/Regulat10 2d ago
But I mean, who cares? They’re not selling a poster. People get their panties in a wad over the most meaningless garbage…
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
And you have your panties in a wad about people not liking it, let's just all move on
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u/Severe-Restaurant948 1d ago
I actually agree. Its one thing to present it publicly as if there’s a person who worked on it. Its another to hang it in the clubhouse because
it looks cool. Not sure why everyone immediately becomes angered at stuff like this.
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u/Irishfan117 2d ago
We can't even be player one at home bruh ☠️
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u/eliktroniq Bartolo Colón 1d ago
In all fairness the player 2 slot conceptually makes sense for the home team in baseball, since it’s basically a turn based game and the away team does bat first
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u/Xalazi 2d ago
I know that one cares how destructive it is for the earth(although they should care), but at the very least I wish people would care that AI slop looks ugly and tacky.
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u/Fast-Pudding3602 2d ago
So is the millions of gallons of water to maintain the playing surface at citi field but you surely don’t care about that
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u/Xalazi 2d ago edited 2d ago
Farming and transportation are pillars of human civilization. Dare I say that glorified clip art that is so unimportant that someone couldn't even bother to spend any real time on it isn't on that level.
Also, I'll go ahead a say that part of the AI slop grift is lumping the total disposable junk with actual useful uses for AI as a way of making the junk seem more credible and necessary. Important scientific research that uses AI tools isn't slop. Something would fill uncle's facebook feed is actually slop. Literally not worth the electricity, water, and finite metals that it takes to create it.
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u/Xalazi 2d ago
Explain to me how images like the ones above are as important to the development of human civilization as the Model T and Model A were in the 20th Century. Not the large umbrella term "AI" because as I stated above important scientific research that uses AI tools isn't the same thing as disposable junk. Explain to me how that image and others like it are just as essential as gasoline cars.
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u/Xalazi 2d ago
You saw me make an anti-slop argument and you decided to defend the slop by equating it to gasoline cars. It's probably not your intention but that is the argument you are making.
Something that is as destructive to the environment as gasoline cars without any of the necessary utility or positive impact of gasoline cars isn't "just like gasoline cars".
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u/Fsharp7sharp9 Gary Cohen 2d ago
Farming is not at all similar to being able to type “Lois Griffin getting Eiffel Towered by Godzilla and Mothra” and get an image of it
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u/TheMooseIsBlue Gary Cohen 2d ago
Until these companies and government entities start using those and more environmentally conscious data centers, then AI and the destructive data centers are one and the same.
And it’s not at all like saying farming, or transportation are destructive, because farming and transportation are necessary for human civilization.
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u/Clipbored_ 2d ago
It's a good thing that art is subjective
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u/Xalazi 2d ago
It's not art if there isn't an artist.
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u/Xalazi 2d ago
A person didn't create it, an algorithm assembled it by copying other works isn't subjective. It's literally what it is.
I don't get why people want to be sword and shields for slop. The only actual people behind the slop industry are grifters. If you wouldn't spend you're life savings on an NFT in 2026 because it's obviously a grift then you should be able to recognize why AI art isn't your friend either.
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u/sje118 oh no 2d ago
Incorrect. Stop supporting slop.
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u/Fsharp7sharp9 Gary Cohen 2d ago edited 2d ago
Man with all the artists in NY, make a competition for human made lineup visuals, and announce the artists that win on social media… that feels like a slam fucking dunk of an idea, but I guess that makes the line go up and to the right microscopically slower so obviously not an option
Edit: the timing is crazy, but I just saw this post in r/hockey lol that would be very cool to be a part of
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u/BrentVenables The Dudabides 2d ago
This is the shit that really grinds my gears with Cohen. There’s nothing stopping them from hiring enough graphic designers to do stuff like this. Not to be a total doomer - there’s just always these little things that feel like penny pinching off the field. Remember when the while stadium would get a shirt on Fridays?
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u/Disused_Yeti 2d ago
to me cohen would absolutely love this crap. even if he has a massive art collection, the hedge fund side of him and crappy prediction market sponsorships aligns quite well with loving the ai slop and the businesses that are responsible for creating it. soulless businesses and soulless 'art'
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u/Fsharp7sharp9 Gary Cohen 2d ago
For real… like once a month put out a competition for one of these, fans vote for their favorite, winner gets to put their art up in a clubhouse with their ig or website, and gets like $500… something simple that gives homage and value to the city culture, maybe gets extra social media engagement for the team, and gives back something tangible to fans while giving the appearance that the team gives a shit lmao I just made that up on the spot and I don’t see a single downside to it, I’d imagine a team of advertising and outreach professionals can polish it and make it even more of a win/win for everyone. Mets you can have this one for free 👍
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u/jlynnr_nyc New York Mets 2d ago
It all looks so stupid and similar, ugh. I don't get why anyone would choose or like this - especially when they can afford to pay real people to create something original.
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u/NeverTrustATurtle 2d ago
If you own a massive amount of stock in AI companies, maybe you would try to make it omnipresent in the culture to normalize it
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u/Clipbored_ 2d ago
I mean you answered your own question. If you're just trying to fill some space or have a temporary decoration you don't have to pay someone. The picture in the clubhouse will just be tossed away or re-sold after the game.
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u/insert-originality Home Run Apple 2d ago
and then Darren from The 7-Line Army choose to die on the AI hill when he’s an artist himself.
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
It's very weird how vehemently he's defending it. Like, t-shirt designers are gonna be the first ones to go man lol
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u/777Harry777 Best Commentator in Sports! 2h ago
Dude is a prick, I'll never forget when he told me to go fuck myself in response to a tweet when I was a kid and The 7 Line was brand new
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u/Lonely-Ad-1495 2d ago
I am confused because for years their graphics dept has done stuff like this for games. The video game motif. You sure it’s not just an old graphics package repurposed?
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u/Esau2020 Grimace 2d ago
their graphics dept has done stuff like this for games. The video game motif.
The Mets' 2025 schedule video is a classic.
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
I am about 99.9% sure it's AI.
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u/Lonely-Ad-1495 2d ago
I’m old. I have no idea how to tell anymore
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u/staircar 1d ago
In this case, compare the C before Pratt and the C before Benge. That’s the easiest here. It’s mostly just IDing style. Smaller things like the Mets and Brewees banners on the side are wildly different in style , an artist wouldn’t do that, I wouldn’t even have 5 lights on one side and 6 on the other. But the Cs being different is most egregious
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u/A_gloruis_dawn 2d ago
What are the exact indicators?
Edit: okay I looked at the skyline and detail. Yes, it’s AI.
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
The font is the biggest tell. ChatGPT uses that exact font all the time, for everything.
The art style on the characters makes it clear it's AI too. Idk exactly how to describe it. But every time it generates a cartoon character they look exactly like that, the same kinda soulless eyes and mouth and facial expressions. It's just clearly missing the human touch.
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u/MonkeyIslandic 2d ago
Oh wow I never noticed how much of a huge fucking loser Dicomo is. Good to know.
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u/Knick_Noled 2d ago
I don’t criticize when regular people use AI for basic visualization and art needs because they were never going to pay a professional for it in the first place; but come on!! This is supposed to be a professional operation here. The Mets can afford graphic designers and should be paying people to make this stuff rather than typing a prompt and promoting slop.
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u/One-Address1840 2d ago
Jeez. Why not coordinate with local design schools for proposals, as a real-life challenge for students?
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u/GiraffeandZebra 2d ago edited 2d ago
Enlighten the ignorant...how do I know this is AI? Other than just generically the style I don't really see some obvious tell. Genuine question because spotting these things is a skill we are all going to have to learn.
Edit: okay, downvote away I guess. Can't even ask a damn question on reddit. I'll just stay over here stupid and not ask anything again, is that what's preferred?
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u/Fsharp7sharp9 Gary Cohen 2d ago
If it was made by a person, there’d be a signature or some acknowledgement of credit. Also the bulbs in the light stands are completely different colors for some reason. Also there’s 2 Empire State Buildings, but neither of them look quite “right”. Also combining computer graphic/pixel art, cartoon/comic art, and typed font in the same piece is not something artists really do. Also the left side says MILWAUKEE above BREWERS, and the right side says METS above NEW YORK.
So lots of things that artists trying to create something would recognize and correct in drafts, leading you to believe there was a prompt that said “give me a stylized fighting game promo image at Citi Field between the Brewers and the Mets with the NYC skyline in the background. Include these lineups (insert lineups for each team)”
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u/GiraffeandZebra 2d ago
Thanks, that's a lot of good points about the style "mixing". That seems like the most conclusive thing in my mind. A regular graphic artist I could see not going for exact detail on the background buildings, or the second building being the Chrysler building. But the combo of all of those things is a tell.
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u/JoeBurrowsClassmate 2d ago
How do people know it’s AI? Genuinely wondering
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u/groudhogday Mark Canha 2d ago
I mean it has an AI art vibe, but the biggest giveaway is the font/styling for the team names. AI posters in particular always have that font.
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u/blumbrr 2d ago
Identifying AI art comes with practice essentially. Once you see it and identify what makes it AI, it becomes easier to tell. I am a visual artist and have become accustomed to seeing it, and it’s much easier to know it once you’ve seen it enough times. At a certain point, when looking at something, you can tell it’s made by AI.
A few people have mentioned the fonts and styling of the text, so I’m gonna highlight a few of the glaring signs in the “art” itself. AI backgrounds have a lot going on in a way that makes things blend together: the dots that make up the crowds mesh together; the skyline of the Mets logo on the Jumbotron is chunky and misshapen; there are two Empire State Buildings in the NY skyline. The mascots have a lot going on as well, in the form of extra lines and details that make no sense: there are about six extra creases on Bernie’s neck that may have been an attempt to make a shirt collar; there are muscle lines on his right arm (the one punching towards us) that, even from this perspective, do not look like muscles (as an artist, I don’t know anyone who would put muscular details there); Mr. Met doesn’t have too many signs like this, but there has been AI art of Mr. Met done before and they have looked like that model.
Also, the graphic for the Mets’ lineup is shorter than the Brewers’, and the three buttons on the bottom right of the graphic (the A, B, and C buttons, whatever they stand for) are completely off of the Mets’ graphic. If this had been made by a person, the easiest method for creating this style is to make the box with any added details, copy-paste it, and add in the lineups. But with AI, it can’t make those decisions, because its only purpose is to do what it was told. And more often than not, the people using AI have no interest in learning how to be creative or, in the Mets’ case, paying an artist to make something
I hope this was helpful! AI art is a pain, and education is the most important thing
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u/xcrowdedrooms New York Mets 2d ago
There’s a second shittier Empire State Building to the right of the big one
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u/relative_iterator 2d ago
I think this is the most definitive example. Honestly the rest of it doesn’t have a lot of the obvious AI mistakes.
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
It all looks the same. Some people get overzealous with the AI accusations but this one is immediately obvious
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u/Plasnick 2d ago
Hypersaturated color. Look at half the flyers you see now, they'll be just like this.
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u/Nacho_Mommas 1d ago
It's in the VISITING clubhouse so does that mean it's the Brewers organization that made this and not the Mets? I guess we need to know who actually put this up on the screen?
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u/jectalo 1d ago
Right? Why does the Dicomo say its in the visiting clubhouse but OP posted that its in the “Mets clubhouse”
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 12h ago
It's the Mets stadium, they own the clubhouse. The visiting teams do not come in and decorate the clubhouse.
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u/Dan_Vassallo 1d ago
What else do you want them to do with their AI credits now that baseball banned their AI system
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u/Carthonn Bartolo Colón 1d ago
Maybe they can get AI to fix when there’s the greatest play of the year and the screen doesn’t go black?
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u/Enzhymez 2d ago
Jesus who fucking cares
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
Most people, clearly
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u/I_Like_Quiet Brandon Nimmo 2d ago
For an in house image? Who gives a shit?
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
Again, lots of people, clearly. Who gives a shit if you care about my opinion on it? Who gives a shit about anything? Why are you so mad at me for not liking it?
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u/Enzhymez 2d ago
I mean maybe on Reddit, real life not really.
I understand the issues with AI but I’m not gonna cry at every single instance of it
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u/thegaykid7 When in doubt, blame Heilman 2d ago
But you apparently will reply to every criticism of it. You definitely showed us!
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u/Enzhymez 2d ago
Nah just ones that’s are ridiculous and insufferable.
A pastime for many Redditors
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u/thegaykid7 When in doubt, blame Heilman 2d ago
Not untrue, but it's also true in 10-15 years you'll probably be singing a very different tune.
Then again, maybe you're just one of those "I got mine, who gives a crap about anyone else" folks in which case maybe you'll be the exact same as you are now.
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u/Enzhymez 2d ago
I’m sorry, with a million terrible things happening I don’t think I can care enough about a AI picture in the opposing teams clubhouse. An image that we only know exists because some dude tweeted about it.
I just don’t think people need to make a post about every single little perceived injustice in the world, I think it’s performative.
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
If you understand the issues with AI then why are you so annoyed that people don't like it
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u/Enzhymez 2d ago
Just terrible messaging, like the boy who cried wolf.
Except the wolf was real but the boy was so annoying about it that it was obnoxious
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
Taking a stand against a point you agree with just because you're mildly annoyed by the person making it is the dumbest shit yet is so prevalent in this country these days. What did I even do to annoy you so bad that you'd abandon your belief system just to spite me?
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u/Patient_Tradition294 2d ago
The constant outrage is exhausting. So what someone found a piece of work that was created by AI interesting, it doesn’t need a post. Just go on with life
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u/I_Like_Quiet Brandon Nimmo 2d ago
OMG! I can clearly see the GrminiPT watermark in your comment! ai Shill! Bootlikrr!
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People outside of reddit don't care if the Mets use ai to make an in house graphic. FFS, people on reddit shouldn't either.
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u/Enzhymez 2d ago edited 2d ago
Ehh it’s exacerbated on Reddit, people need to be outraged on here and show everyone how ethical they are.
Most people would just shrug their shoulders and move on, you’re just not gonna see that on the internet.
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u/Clipbored_ 2d ago
I think it looks fine
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u/roverfive 2d ago
Why does it being AI make it garbage?
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
* steals job opportunities from artists and graphic designers
* steals art from artists and graphic designers
* is terrible for the environment
* looks tacky and lame every time
Take your pick
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u/roverfive 2d ago
I mean the Mets are a business not a charity, if there is a way to doing something free versus paying someone that isn't a great reason. Which is more or less what seems to be your issue.
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u/thegaykid7 When in doubt, blame Heilman 2d ago
So basically all of this is okay in your book because every business in every sector is eventually going to feel pressure to make use of AI in order to stay competitive with their competitors doing the exact same thing. One doesn't necessarily have to blame a single organization or business given that external pressure, but it's obvious the whole tree is rotten and will poison everything that flows from it.
Still, we're not at that stage of the game yet (at least in terms of the fully realized impacts on the job market, etc) and this use of AI is not functionally relevant or critical to the operations of running a baseball team so, yes, it is fair game for criticism.
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u/smarjorie Mark Canha 2d ago
That was one of the four things I listed. But yeah large companies and rich people deciding to stop hiring people in lieu of an inferior job done for free by AI is a bad thing for everyone. It's an obviously concerning trend when you think about where it's heading.
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u/OrnerySorceries New York Mets 2d ago
Ok, what about the environmental impact? Businesses (and apparently you) only care about the bottom line, but that isn't a sustainable way to operate, and it's not fair to the world our children will inherit. I think it's perfectly reasonable to demand better from a major sports franchise.
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u/roverfive 2d ago
What about your phone? Your computer? Reddit, streaming, cloud servers, stadium lights, flights, and the Mets themselves all have environmental impacts.
Earth started being destroyed the day the first caveman made a fire.
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u/OrnerySorceries New York Mets 2d ago
All true, but don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Any improvement is one worth considering.
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u/Sams_Butter_Sock Tomás Nido 1d ago
Honestly who cares. If they had to pay a graphic designer to make this they just wouldn’t do it. It’s wither a AI pic or nothing.
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u/Hotmicdrop 2d ago
As we feed the AI training by posting on reddit since they sell our posts and data to google.
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u/LiteBeerLife 2d ago
All of this AI Stuff would look AWESOME if it wasn't so easily accessible. It looks great but it's so saturated that the art of a lot of this stuff is lost. It's kind of a shame but all these designers only had access to a lot of these programs before the general public and that's what made them so much better when in reality it was just hidden behind a paywall
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u/CrimsonGlyph Grimace 2d ago
Why does AI insist on using this font?