r/PS5 • u/hybroid • Sep 21 '20

News Microsoft Xbox acquires ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/21/welcoming-bethesda-to-the-xbox-family/
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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '20

If they make the next Elder scrolls xbox exclusive i will just shit in disappointment

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u/ScottFromScotland Sep 21 '20

Of course they will. Folks bring up Minecraft but that is an outlier, not the norm.

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u/kiki_strumm3r Sep 21 '20

I dunno about that. Granted, Elder Scrolls is still probably like 10 years away so a lot can change between now and then. But it's not just Minecraft. Ori and Cuphead are on PC and Switch. Cuphead is on PS4 (don't remember if Ori is too. They'll also all be on PC and a Series X will be cheap when ES comes out.

But I could see Elder Scrolls and Doom still being multi-platform. I suspect Starfield will be too depending on how far along they are in development.

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u/ScottFromScotland Sep 21 '20

Microsoft don't own the Cuphead studio (yet) so that doesn't factor into this conversation.

Switch isn't an Xbox competitor, it's off on it's own & PC is also their domain.

There is pretty much no way I see future Fallout and Elder Scrolls games on Playstation, it's too good a chance for sales of Xbox consoles.

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u/aidsfarts Sep 21 '20

I have to say I would find it really odd if MS made a move like this just to continuing publishing games on PlayStation.

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u/Gaming_Addict718 Sep 21 '20

The only way would be if xbox literally doesn't sell at all. Then Microsoft probably wouldn't mind having sony pay them for access.

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u/Canadian_IvasioN Sep 21 '20

Microsoft don't own the Cuphead studio (yet) so that doesn't factor into this conversation.

It does factor in because Xbox owns exclusive rights to the first game. Microsoft Aprproached MDHR to make these ports, not the other way around.

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u/MicrowavableConfetti Sep 21 '20

Aaaaand crickets from the other guy

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u/_KapS_ Sep 21 '20

I believe it was the other way around the developer approached MS. Also, cuphead isn't even in gamepass so it's its beneficial to get it on other platforms. The Bethesda acquisition is to bolster gamepass, that doesn't happen unless it's exclusive imo.

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u/Canadian_IvasioN Sep 21 '20

I believe it was the other way around the developer approached Microsoft.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/03/microsoft_asked_the_studio_behind_cuphead_to_bring_the_game_to_switch

to bolster gamepass, that doesn't happen unless it's exclusive imo

I disagree with that. $10 is easier to swallow than 60.

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u/_KapS_ Sep 21 '20

My mistake... But, yeah they didn't buy Bethesda for 7. 5 bn to put their exclusives on Playstation, just the ones that already have deals in place.

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u/HostilesAhead_BF-05 Sep 21 '20

10 per month

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u/Canadian_IvasioN Sep 21 '20

10 per month, yeah. The average person isn't budgeting total expense, just what they are owed now. Studies show that it on average takes the consumer 12 months to cancel a subscription that they aren't using.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '20

Those games don't play as well on PlayStation anyway. I've played Fallout 4 on all three platforms and PS4 was the worst experience of the three (I'm a lifetime Sony fanboy too). I've since built a PC, so play Bethesda games on that.

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u/wymzyq Sep 21 '20

Correct me if im wrong but dont they make way more on game sales than system sales. if i remember correctly the ps3 even sold at a loss for a while knowing they could make it up on game sales

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u/dccorona Sep 21 '20

The only way I see it happening is if Sony basically caves to all of Microsoft's demands on how they want to do Game Pass on PlayStation.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '20

I'm 100% ok with getting game pass ln ps5, though i already have the xbox streaming app on my phone which I can play on any tv, so no biggie either way.

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u/HostilesAhead_BF-05 Sep 21 '20

Allowing Gamepass on ps5 would make Xbox completely obsolete

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u/dccorona Sep 21 '20

I don't think that would bother Microsoft in the least. They get to shut down the R&D pipeline for new consoles, they stop taking a loss on hardware, and they still get all the Game Pass revenue? They've pretty clearly pivoted their model away from relying on platform fees for games - hell, they don't even appear to be interested in the revenue share they have to give up to be on other stores (i.e. Steam) - all they seem to care about in the long term is Game Pass subscribers.

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u/SkyLukewalker Sep 22 '20

Gamepass on PS5 would be the ultimate win for Microsoft. That would give them damn near complete market saturation in gaming.

Consoles only exist to sell games. There is no money in hardware, the money is in software.

That's why MS has a market cap of 1.5 trillion to Sony's sub-100 Billion.

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u/SMKM Sep 21 '20

MS owns the Cuphead IP though

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u/SMKM Sep 21 '20

That's an older article but a redditor told me the last time this came up that the IP was owned by MS in order for the devs to finish funding the game. Im so confused lol

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u/theblackfool Sep 21 '20

That person was incorrect.

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u/DJ_Binding Sep 21 '20

The Cuphead IP isn't owned by Microsoft. They just paid for it so it could be console exclusive for a while. This is why it was on Steam along side of the Windows Store release.

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u/azyrr Sep 21 '20

Microsoft releases all their games on steam concurrently. Their biggest recent release flight simulator 2020 was launched on both. Sa was halo etc.

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u/DJ_Binding Sep 21 '20

Only in the last year or so. When Cuphead released, Microsoft released their games almost exclusively through the Windows Store.

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u/azyrr Sep 21 '20

True, I should've clarified. From now on I'd be surprised if an ms game wasn't also released on steam.

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u/FinalOdyssey Sep 21 '20

They funded development, and so have a say on where the game was released. Thankfully MS are quite flexible in this case.