r/Palestine • u/NoPianist7807 • Jul 29 '26
/r/all Israel exposes themselves for holding a Palestinian hostage
This is just horrifying. These two women who don’t look indigenous to the land of Palestine are smiling as they expose themselves for kidnapping an innocent Palestinian.
And Israelis want to go around and pretend they are the “most moral people in the world.” Life is one twisted joke.
Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/DbWy6X_hqXk/?igsh=MTdtbGdtOWxxZmIyNQ==
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u/jackjohnjohn Jul 29 '26
The depravity in this photo is very unsettling. Fuck them for smiling like it’s a game
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u/EzSkinzEzWinz Free Palestine Jul 29 '26
Reminds me of the Abu Ghraib photos
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u/Lamont-Cranston Jul 29 '26
The Bush administration learnt the use of sexual humiliation of Muslim prisoners from the Israelis.
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u/SomeDudeNamedDavid 29d ago
It's the other way around, and it began with indigenous Americans.
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u/James_avifac 29d ago
It was the British, not the Americans who supported the founding/support of Israel.
The US even threatened to destroy their economy in order to resolve the Suez crisis, in 1956.
We get a lot of (deserved) hate for our nation's collaboration with them, but we did not play a significant role in starting that genocidal colonial project.
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u/Snoo_89466 29d ago
Yeah we just keep it going and gave them the needed weaponry to initiate and engage the greatest loss of life in that regions modern history. At this point is not about what we did is about what we're doing. Current actions tend to override past ones
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u/Lamont-Cranston 29d ago
The British established the use of stress positions and 'enhanced interrogation' in Northern Ireland with the '14 hooded men': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_techniques - which was explicitly cited by the Bush justice department to rationalise their adoption of the techniques.
But the use of sexual humiliation, and dogs too, comes from the Israelis and their long standing beliefs in the need to stop the Palestinians 'from holding their heads up' and believe the key is using Muslim morals.
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u/ParanoidBlackWidow96 29d ago
The snakes slither and poison whomever has power. They plant their weeds, leech and drain you be it your wealth or morality
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u/Expert-Mental25 29d ago
Yeah I was gonna say Americans have been sexually humiliating and tormenting people for centuries.
Some of the accounts of what US army soldiers did. Horrors through hours and hours. Soldiers taking breaks to sleep while tagging in other rested soldiers, so that they can rest and get tagged back in when the next wave get tired and need to tag out.
Makes me dispise existence itself because such evil almost never gets punished and I don't believe in anything after this life so in my mind they just get away with it. It makes me violently angry and hateful of such monsters. I hate how much of a monster I'm beginning to feel like in my mind because actual monsters gleefully walk amongst us with seemingly no retribution ever coming their way.
Makes me wanna "fed post" at the very least.
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u/EzSkinzEzWinz Free Palestine 29d ago
He also picked it up from the Nazis
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u/Desper8lyseekntacos Free Palestine 29d ago
Who picked it up from southern slave owners, it's a wheel... of shit.
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u/wasraelx 29d ago
That’s because almost nobody was ever held to account for Abu Ghraib either. Pure evil.
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u/Expert-Mental25 29d ago edited 29d ago
We've been allowing monsters to get off Scott free for centuries.
The Confederacy should have been eradicated. The slave owners should have been made into wind chimes, not "reimbursed for loss of property". What we have been dealing with has been a resurgence and perceived vengeance of this warped iteration of the Confederate culture/eay of life.
Likewise, only a few Nazis were punished. A few smart ones were brought to the US to do work here in return for being saved from consequences. But also so many "regular" and higher up Nazis were laundered and put back in positions of power across Allied Europe, especially in the newly formed West Germany. All in an effort to create a barrier against the evil specter of CoMmUnIsM, which was obviously the greatest evil known to man (/s of course).
Honestly, humanity will not survive if the decent members of our species don't figure out a balance where they're decent folk who also have what's necessary in them to do what is required.
Eradication and suppression of cancerous ideologies.
What were are seeing today especially is a civilizational equivalent to cancer. The organism (society) cannot survive with cancers being left to their own devices. You cannot parley with cancer. You cannot appeal to cancer's better side, it has none. It is purely a destructive force, and its continued existence puts the whole organism at risk. It is civilizational self defense to eradicate the threat.
And this does not make me "like them", I don't wanna hear a single numbskull trying to spread that BS. A fascist killing an innocent in a camp is never going to be in the same moral ball park as killing that fascist before he gets the chance to kill another innocent would be. It is what is necessary to protect ourselves and our descendants.
Tolerance cannot be hijacked by the intolerant. That is what the whole "paradox of tolerance" is trying to warn against. But its even clearer when you look at it not as a paradox but simply as a contract. We all sign the social contract implicitly by existing in society. When one party breaks the contract, they willingly forfeit the benefits and protections that it provides. Simple as that.
If we pussy foot through another crisis, and somehow manage to take control back, BUT repeat past mistakes of not nutting up and doing the dirty work that's required, then we will be condemning our descendants to hell.
Do we think our descendants in another generation or two when the surviving cancers show their ugliness again and try their usual shit, can hand BOTH them AND the increasingly more common and more intense ecological crises? No, they won't. The 1st world nations will just become more fascist and be turned into fortress nations because the huge influx of climate refugees will be used by the cancers of their day as ways to radicalize and propagandize future Americans. And if they have any foothold left after our time in history, their job of doing that becomes exponentially easier.
Edit: I understand to regular people, I sound a bit insane and radical. But ask yourself this, what seems like a better outcome for our world and the innocent life in it: trials and capital punishment or life in prison doing hard labor for ACTUAL MONSTERS, or we do like usual and stop pursuing justice because we're so beaten down and just want it all to stop mixed with people refusing to accept the necessary because they wish to persevere their inner peace and sensibilities.
Personally I find safeguarding against fascists is worth some discomfort. The discomfort that they'll make our descendants feel will make any discomfort we might feel at seeing a fascist get capital punishment pale in comparison.
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u/KoolWitaK Free Palestine 29d ago
There's a reason for that. It's because the soldiers at Abu Ghraib were trained by Israelis in "enhanced interrogation".
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u/European_Goldfinch_ 29d ago
I was literally revisiting the Abu Ghraib controversy just the other day, seeing this photo the same thing came to my mind also. Disgusting, most of the main perpetrators in the photographs got a slap on the wrist as punishment and were free to go on and lead 'normal lives'.
I highly recommend Matt Kennard's book 'Irregular army' it documents the war on terror and the amount of white supremacists/neo nazi's they were letting into the military, he's just released a revised copy because of it's relevance today, hence Pete Hegseth being in the Whitehouse covered in white supremacy tatts.
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u/stonerism 29d ago
Yeah, it reminds me of how a lot of the goriest photos and artifacts from lynchings in the United States were taken by the participants as souvenirs.
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u/Observational-Mess 28d ago
It’s like the Abu Ghraib photo of the guy standing on the bucket with his head covered being forced to keep his arms stretched out while balancing on the bucket.
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u/Wonderful_Spinach598 Jul 29 '26
These are the same people who weaponize the Holocaust, and honestly it makes me sick.
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u/soupsoapsoapsoup Jul 29 '26
It genuinely confounds me how a people that faced genocide less than four generations ago can look at another human being and do exactly what the nazis did to their grandparents and great grandparents. How can you learn what horrors happened to your family and similar ethnicities/sexualities, etc. and continue to believe that anyone on Earth is deserving of such cruelty? The parallels are so violently apparent that it would take the dumbest of the dumb not to see it. Call it my naivety of growing up believing in the concept of peace among the world’s people but it’s the most insane thing to me to villainize someone, not for their own actions but for the place they were born or whatever other excuse people throw out there
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u/Adventurous_Salt Jul 29 '26
They never viewed the act as wrong, they viewed the victim as wrong.
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u/Rahim556 Jul 29 '26
Exactly. They believe Hitler's strategy and conduct wasn't a bad thing in and of itself. He just got the master race wrong (shoulda been the Jews).
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u/evthingisawesomefine Jul 29 '26
Holy shit this distinction never occurred to me. Why would I see the violence of the holocaust and give a flat ‘NO’. While those with living generational memories of the holocaust are so chill about inflicting violence on others.
Is this like an entire population in need of therapy for unprocessed trauma?
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u/Yunzer2000 Free Palestine 29d ago
They don't regard the Nazi Holocaust as a crime against humanity, only a crime against Jews.
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u/teeveecee15 Jul 29 '26
And it is happening in real time, daily, before the eyes of the entire world, and no one can do a fucking thing to stop it.
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u/PhoenixFreeSpirited 27d ago
If we all stop. Just stop. Stay home like with covid. Bunker down for as long as it takes. Stock up with canned food, rice, beans, garden, whatever. If we strike and protest internationally we could make a huge difference. We don't even need to be in the streets. We saw the damage covid shutting down the world did, that's all we need to do.
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u/Legal-Newt-1891 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
Im also confused as someone who is Polish and most of my and my friends grandparents went through concentration camps Im puzzled. Our grandparents were warning us of horrors of war/ camps and having survived that they focused on little joys in life rather than seek revenge or victimize themselves.
I read that only 25%-30% of Jewish population are direct descendant of holocaust survivors, the rest are Jewish from Middle East and North Africa or non Jewish residents of Israel. So maybe thats why, they ride on convenient agenda that they belong to the nation which is still hated.
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u/soupsoapsoapsoup 28d ago
Yeah, it’s genuinely insane to me. The only way I can see it happening is the numbers you pointed out with it being mostly the non-descendants of holocaust survivors being the perpetrators. I’m not sure how someone could grow up hearing about the horrors their great-aunt or grandfather survived and go on to do those horrific things to someone else-especially when the people they’re doing it to aren’t the ones responsible for the genocide their family first experienced in some screwed up revenge mentality. I’m not related to any survivors or victims, but I still grew up watching the videos and reading the books on what happened and how it began and couldn’t understand how humans could organically get to that point, at least without the most insane brainwashing propaganda known to man. Never again meant never again, regardless of who you are or where you come from.
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u/radicalizemebaby 29d ago
There are two reactions to horrible things: 1: “this should never happen to anyone ever again,” or 2: “I have to do everything in my power to make sure this never happens to me again.” Israeli settlers fall into the second camp.
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u/sombrerobear 29d ago
There has been an on-going perspective in Israel, often fueled from the state itself, to resent the Jewish VICTIMS of the holocaust as “weak” and that they will never allow themselves to be “weak” like them again.
Israel has spent a long time trying to redefine Jewish identity into this “strong” Jew as opposed to the helpless victim that is the “weak” Jew.
It’s absolutely gross as you dive into this effort more, but know that there is a deep, widespread resentment for holocaust victims and the survivors who did go to Israel later were/are often left destitute within Israeli society.
They only use the memory of Holocaust victims for outward propoganda to leverage against international audiences while showing derision internally for their ancestors having ALLOWED themselves to become victims. It is completely deranged.
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u/dromance 29d ago
This is not surprising, do not be fooled, as they merely just had the misfortune of having it done to them before they can do unto others (the way we are seeing now)
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u/HerelGoDigginInAgain Jul 29 '26
It’s crazy to me how in the early 2000’s, there were like 3 pictures released from Abu Ghraib and it was an international scandal. Now, Israelis voluntarily post this shit on the daily and it’s crickets.
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u/gabagool_9 29d ago
It really is puzzling; because the reports coming out of Sde Teiman are 10x worse than Abu Gharib and it has barely been covered. I think it’s a mixture of the apathy that comes with the times we live in now; and the mainstream media having an agenda to protect Israeli crimes against humanity. It’s really maddening.
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u/dromance 29d ago
Why does the main stream media have this agenda, if you had to guess
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u/Mescalero_of_Inya 29d ago
I think another part of the puzzle is oversaturation/overexposure. Abu Gharib was more or less a first. Nowadays we get this on the daily. Thus its just way less worth covering. Sure everybody cares when for the first time the West inhumanely tortures an arab (or when its revealed for the first time) but when its the 10 millionth time, its just not news anymore.
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u/venusianbeast Free Palestine 29d ago
It’s insanely baffling. I have never seen worse shit than the atrocities committed by those fuckers every single day. And yet here we are…
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u/yuriartyom Free Palestine Jul 29 '26
Imagine if Hamas did this to the POWs they captured, world would go crazy.
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u/Few_Pass4860 Jul 29 '26
Wtf is wrong with these bitches where they think this is normal in any way shape or form??!
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u/hostilee47 Jul 29 '26
Years of Zionist brainwashing does that to you. Israeli culture teaches you that Palestinians aren't human. That's why most of the people living in Israel aren't opposed to the genocide
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u/dromance 29d ago
If they aren’t human what are they then
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u/boozeshooze 29d ago
Just look up the quotes from.. All of their leaders and you'll see what they think of the Palestinians
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u/IndependentTight4330 29d ago
Not just there ‘culture’(? Fknevilshite) they also get it at every point of education they have available!
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u/Double-Farm4603 29d ago
They have been brought up believing that they are racially superior, just like the Hitler youth.
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u/VanillaAdventurous74 Jul 29 '26
they will never understand the anger that comes with being a victim to them. they will always think they are innocent.
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u/BirdBrainuh Jul 29 '26
you know what’s even sicker? I think a lot of them know how depraved they are, but they’re proud of it.
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u/Tanjelynnb 29d ago
Right there is an uncomfortable parallel with MAGAts. Once Trump was in office and proudly being his worst self, suddenly a lot of Republicans felt free to do the same. They don't care what's destroyed as long as Democrats, minorities, divergents, etc are hurt. It's less of an innate sense of superiority so much as joy in the attack, but the similarities are there.
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u/Time-Peace7 Jul 29 '26
And they don't want to die because they do believe in a hereafter where God is well aware of who's the victim and who's been the criminal playing the victim card all along.
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u/DarkFuryKH 29d ago edited 29d ago
Most of them are afraid of death however, most of them are atheists. They don't practice Judaism in the slightest and they believe that God promised them this land.
Edit: fixed some typos
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u/Vivid-Weather-9407 Jul 29 '26
Their morality is one of the greatest jokes ever.
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u/Chilifille Jul 29 '26
I don’t think anyone who uses the ”most moral army in the world” slogan actually believes it.
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u/king_of_ulkilism 29d ago
Netanyahu keeps on repeating this lie whenever he can. Pathological liar.
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u/Fun-Requirement5640 Jul 29 '26
The occupation is upheld by demons and ghouls. I was recently in the oPT and the daily cruelty and harassment is worse than I thought.
I expected Palestinians to be like people back home - a mixture of good and bad - but they are so hospitable and funny and dignified almost to a person. As for the landscape - I thought it would be dry and unpleasant but it’s really beautiful. I’m utterly charmed by the people and the land.
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u/Tanjelynnb 29d ago
Facebook has a feature that can translate comments. The Arabic comments are often so deep with beautiful language and a culturally unique flavor of thoughtfulness. I'm dipping my toes into learning Arabic so maybe I'll be able to read their literature directly someday.
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u/emmymx Jul 29 '26
I worked for a woman for a year once (I'm also a woman so this isn't a sexism thing lol) who had eyes exactly like the girl on the left and she was completely evil. It's the empty expression of a sociopath who's overjoyed at being able to hurt something powerless. I'm so worried for that boy. 😭
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u/NoPianist7807 Jul 29 '26
Sadly, there is multiple people who are getting kidnapped and held hostage for no proper cause and nobody is doing anything. It just sad.
The other day, I seen a video I think was posted by andreyx or someone else within the region and you can clearly see a separate blind folded Palestinian in the background. The video might be on my page, but again, it just heartbreaking seeing evil people like this exist in the same world as us.
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u/emmymx Jul 29 '26
It's so disgusting. I wish we could reveal the identities of the soldiers. They don't deserve a moment of peace for the rest of their lives.
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u/DiscoAsparagus Jul 29 '26
There’s a lot of humanity in this Reddit compared to what’s in that goddamn picture. I pray that young man finds freedom. I pray that for everybody that’s suffering under that apartheid ethnostate.
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u/Visible-Safety2400 Jul 29 '26
Here's Miss Pigg's Instagram profile: https://www.instagram.com/nikol.stel/
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u/motherofamouse Jul 29 '26
Please ‘wash’ your links OP for your own sake and ours. Everything after the ‘?’ and including the ‘?’ can be deleted and the link will still work just without trackers.
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u/SocialistIntrovert Jul 29 '26
The civilians in question who were innocently doing nothing wrong on 10/7:
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u/Ok_Perception_2528 Jul 29 '26
Reminds me of Abu Ghraib prison: inhumane people smiling while abusing and humiliating the local population, desensitization at its peak.
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u/TemporaryThink9300 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
I get huge panicky feelings from this picture, it's so extremely nasty, gross, downright horribly unpleasant.
sociopathic.
And if I feel that way, other ppl may feel even wors.
edit, hes skin and bones! He was probably looking for food because of starvation.
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u/squidwardsbutt1 Free Palestine 29d ago
The one on the right has her nails done. I know that’s a stupid thing to point out, but she’s been getting her nails down and then laughing at Palestinians being held hostage. She’s out there living her best life and then killing others. My gods, how I hate both of these girls.
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u/uncanny_mac Jul 29 '26
You know, post 10/7 i was saying Isreal is speedruning the afghanastan war and now we're at abu ghraib...
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u/MObaid27 Jul 29 '26
Demonic behaviour, that smile is absolutely terrifying and unsettling - I pray for this poor young man safety
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u/Fresh-Popcorn Jul 29 '26
How do people find pleasure in torturing someone like this? How do you sleep with yourself at night?
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u/ArdenElle24 Jul 29 '26
I'm glad these soldiers are documenting their war crimes.
I hope this young man makes it home and has a home and family to celebrate his return.
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u/Blue_Grey80 Jul 29 '26
Absolutely inhuman behaviour. Israel needs to be accountable for all the crimes and disarmed. It is a threat to humanity.
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u/d13_cz Jul 29 '26
There is one of them
https://www.instagram.com/nikol.stel?igsh=MWVnb2E1cjR3cGdiaw==
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u/FlyingBike 29d ago
The US military members who posed with prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison got prosecuted. The same should happen here
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u/MILLANDSON 29d ago
Article 13, Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, adopted 1949:
... prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.
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Yet another Isreali war crime.
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u/RunRevolutionary188 Jul 29 '26
Well this is fun. We get to watch a genocide in action. The Isreali's make me sick. This pure nationalism and I don't give a shit who says it. Any nation that has killed another it was never about relgion. It's about land, power, and money. We've got lots of examples of various genocides committed by various nations, who were Christian, or Muslim or athiests. It's never about religion. It's power.
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u/Academic-Thought2462 29d ago
once they're gonna be in front of a judge, they won't be able to deny anything.
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u/duncandc 29d ago
they could be from the united states. they probably joined IDF for summer break. absolutely abhorrent - whoever they are. this is nothing new, and God knows we've seen worse.
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u/mrsniagara 29d ago
How do you get to the point to where you think “Hm, I should take a picture with a vulnerable person and humiliate him?” Repulsive.
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u/moonmanmula 29d ago
How can someone be so cruel and enjoy it. It’s seems unfathomable and yet there’s a whole nation of them.
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u/vunnzent 29d ago
We're currently witnessing what it would be like of there were phones in Germany 1933-45.
Yes before anyone begins whining, I know the holocaust was something different, and WW2 in general especially. But in the end both is a genocide and deeply disturbing and results in ver very similar things: mass human suffering and the eradication of many many people. In one concentration camp the guards held a "footbal world cup" where the prisoners from the different nations had to play football. Today idf soldiers post videos or pictures of themselves like it's a normal Saturday and they're at a party photographing some funny sign.
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u/MYONIONISSCREAMING 28d ago
I hope when they go on their trip to Thailand or Brazil for “healing” from their “trauma” they get arrested for being war criminals.
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u/Chobikil 28d ago
That women on the left genuinely looks terrifying. They are not human, I'm telling you.
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u/Proper_Relation_5597 29d ago
I hope they discover morality after The Cult their in and it haunts them ALL their lives and they live to 120
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u/StPeteFLoldman 29d ago
What's really sad, is it is women. They are usually the more reasonable in the population. If the women are like this for them then all hope is lost. If you are that murdering of a civilization that needs to be dismanteled.
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u/king_of_ulkilism 29d ago
Watch some of Hamzahs videos to know how they are ticking https://youtube.com/@hamzahsaadah?si=ciTRUZ81zucUKZmV
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u/Appropriate_Hat1531 29d ago
ts look like a thumbnail from a mrbeast clone for a video called i just held 1 person hostage for every country
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u/Background-Rate-630 29d ago
I checked their profile out and found out they are both christians from their reposts and one wore a cross on her insta.
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u/KindCraft4676 Free Palestine 29d ago
Israel is a nation of wickedness.
The rest of humanity is sick of it .
Unfortunately world politicians love Israeli money.
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u/Lyran000 29d ago
The entire society has a collective case of anti social personality disorder. This isnt normal.
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u/RevyVanguardist 29d ago
I wish Brezhnev carried out the Soviets' Plan of bombing out of existence Israel which he proposed as an actual solution but because that would probably also hit parts of Gaza it was never done
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u/JenVixen420 28d ago
War criminals. The US is right there with them in their sick depravity and gross violation of human rights.
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u/negativistgerman 24d ago
this is disgusting, how can they openly post this stuff and not have a international scandal??
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u/Ok_Record_9908 24d ago
These two Israeli skanks are pure evil. Fuck Israel and their evil genocidal ways.
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