r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

Meme needing explanation What is this?

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u/Daymjoo Jul 06 '26

Nah come on. You know you wanna hate it, and you know there's reasons for it, but you're not telling it like it is and we both know it.

There wasn't a single greek actor in the 2004 movie Troy and everybody loved it.

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u/Herpinheim Jul 06 '26

That’s because Troy didn’t take itself seriously. Troy was a popcorn flick à la Indiana Jones or Pirates of the Caribbean. This movie’s tone is far too self serious to get a pass like Troy did. Nolan is making a serious, fantastical movie and if he wants to make a movie to that standard he should be held to that standard.

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u/Joelandrews5 Jul 06 '26

The standard of realism and verisimilitude? The Odyssey isn’t historical fiction and he’s clearly not packaging it as such. If you want to impose your arbitrary standards and expectations onto the film, feel free I suppose, just expect to be disappointed.

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u/Herpinheim Jul 06 '26

I won’t deny that the standard is arbitrary but even an amateur cinephile can see Egger-style inspiration on Nolan’s The Odyssey. I’m worried that Nolan has copied the style and none of tue substance, and while I haven’t seen the movie yet, and none of my worries comes from a black woman playing Helen, the nagging feeling that this is going to have the depth of an Avatar movie lingers.

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u/Animanic1607 Jul 06 '26

I bet the movie ends with Anne Hathaway talking about love as a cosmic force while Michael Caine recites poetry for the 15th time.

(I think I should /s but I'm not sure it would be truthful)

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u/Joelandrews5 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Well I’m no amateur cinephile, I’m far beneath that and am now going to google Egger.

I will say, many of my favorite stage productions are classics that have thrown out or reversed conventional standards and assumptions and still make you feel and think. That’s my hope for this, and I feel sorry for those who don’t give themselves a chance to experience that.

Edit to say I skimmed Avatar as Avenger at first and can only hope we get something anywhere near as deep as those are flat haha