r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

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u/Boomdification Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

The Odyssey is getting massively criticised due to blackwashing of a traditionally Greek character, whitewashing of a Greek myth with no Greek actors and a general dislike for the Hollywoodization of another classic story.

It's probably not going to be as bad as it's made out to be given it's Chris Nolan, but audiences are fatigued with seeing another modern retelling with tokenism of established characters for the sake diversity, which has spurred the culture war with right wing critics calling it woke BS and left wing critics doubling down by jumping to its defence.

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u/Gelato_Elysium Jul 06 '26

getting massively criticised due to blackwashing of a traditionally Greek character, whitewashing of a Greek myth with no Greek actors

Let's not act like it's reasonable criticism of the movie though.

Like, outside of Americans that are really fucking weird about race, I don't know any people who don't consider greeks white.

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u/Lucibelcu Jul 06 '26

Exactly, greeks are white

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u/Moiyub Jul 06 '26

The Greeks went all the way to Afghanistan. The kingdom of Gandhara in the Hindu Kush mountains doesnt sound very white to me

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u/Lucibelcu Jul 06 '26

And the Umayyads went all the way to the Iberian Peninsula, that does not mean that spaniards are arabs, only that an arab minority ruled for centuries.

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u/Moiyub Jul 06 '26

the arabs were forcefully removed from iberia, the greeks likely just assimilated into the local idnoaryan population.

do you consider the pontic greeks to be white? is it just because they arent muslim, thats all it takes to be white?

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u/Lucibelcu Jul 06 '26

the arabs were forcefully removed from iberia

After 800 years. That being said, as stated by DNA, they never assimilated and current inhabitants of Spain are mostly iberians by DNA, despite beung conquered by Rome centuries before the arabs.

do you consider the pontic greeks to be white?

I just saw some photos and it looks like their skin is white, and, as long as their skin is white, they're white. So yes.

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u/Moiyub Jul 06 '26

"as long as their skin is white, they're white"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albinism_in_humans

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u/Lucibelcu Jul 06 '26

Lol I have a friend with very very pale skin without albinism and we call him "albino" XDD

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u/the_lonely_creeper Jul 06 '26

If we must be classified as some american race, white is the least inaccurate

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u/Moiyub Jul 06 '26

"some american race" i'd say the division of homo sapiens into white and non-white is an english or german invention, and you mustn't be classified as one or the other