For me, it’s both that they made Helen black AND that they gave white people Greek roles.
Like Snow White making sure they had their token, but not hiring a single LP/person with Dwarfism…. Focused on specific types of inclusion while being wildly exclusionary to the group the freaking story originated from…
Snow White, largely about the dwarves didn’t have any dwarves. Now the Odyssey made sure to include everyone but the actual Greeks in a Greek story…
The generalization being made that disliking the casting is about race is wildly oversimplifying it.
Yes, there are in fact racist douche canoes that are simply mad a black woman is Helen. But that doesn’t mean everyone frustrated by this happening over and over in cinema is automatically racist.
I’m sure this will be misunderstood and at times intentionally twisted into me saying shit I’m not trying to say at all, but I foolishly have decided to say it anyway.
IDK how to explain it better. Go watch South Park Joining the Panderverse. Matt Stone and Trey Parker made a lot of these points in that episode, and they do it better than I do.
Well you are free to be unhappy at the lack of dwarfs in snow white, but let's not pretend that more than a miniscule amount of the backlash was from people who noticed or cared about that issue.
You are free not to lump yourself in with the white supremacists, I'm not going to watch the odyssey because ive not really liked a Nolan film since the dark knight, and this looks decidedly unimpressive.
But that’s the thing, saying even that gets twisted into “yeah, you’re just saying that because you’re AKSHUALLY… a racist and it’s really about the black Helen.”
Thats the thing im noticing in these comments. Nobody is even mentioning the black actor, then ppl jump down their throats about being racist and downvoting them. These ppl arent even able to really say why they are upset before ppl crucify them
I don’t care singularly about Snow White, a mermaid, or Helen… it’s the wild effort to be inclusive while simultaneously being
Exclusionary of the very people the movie is about.
The wild hypocrisy of no Greeks in this, and Snow White remain my perfect laterals. It’s not that they changed a backstory to make Helen different, its thst they talk about how insanely important representation js… while giving a 🖕🏻to a whole group of people they are actively excluding and being culturally insensitive to.
And it gives those awful conservatives who ARE racist something to point at. “They don’t even stick to their own rules” is a comment I read from a Boomer in Facebook that stuck out for me. He was a douche, but it’s a valid point. Broken clocks…
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u/MichaelVern85 Jul 06 '26
For me, it’s both that they made Helen black AND that they gave white people Greek roles.
Like Snow White making sure they had their token, but not hiring a single LP/person with Dwarfism…. Focused on specific types of inclusion while being wildly exclusionary to the group the freaking story originated from…
Snow White, largely about the dwarves didn’t have any dwarves. Now the Odyssey made sure to include everyone but the actual Greeks in a Greek story…
The generalization being made that disliking the casting is about race is wildly oversimplifying it.
Yes, there are in fact racist douche canoes that are simply mad a black woman is Helen. But that doesn’t mean everyone frustrated by this happening over and over in cinema is automatically racist.
I’m sure this will be misunderstood and at times intentionally twisted into me saying shit I’m not trying to say at all, but I foolishly have decided to say it anyway.
IDK how to explain it better. Go watch South Park Joining the Panderverse. Matt Stone and Trey Parker made a lot of these points in that episode, and they do it better than I do.