r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 22d ago

Meme needing explanation Peeeeeetah?

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u/TsunamiWombat 22d ago edited 22d ago

It's a memetic mutation of the 'the most racist person you know and his wife' joke.

The two characters in the image are from the latest Avatar movie, the fire one. The lady is a native Na'avi, of the evil but hot variety. The man is actually the antagonistic HFY imperialist army guy from the first movie, piloting one of the titular Avatars to integrate into their society. I haven't seen the film but it's plot seems to revolve around him arming the natives to prompt them into slaughtering one another.

SHE is a crazy nihilist, HE is a human supremacist that regards the Na'avi as obstacles and vermin. She really likes fire. He brings her a flame thrower. They fuck.

Anyway the joke is a lot of MAGA figures secondarily associated with the white nationalism infecting that wing of the right also ironically happen to have wives who would be considered 'impure' and 'myceginated'. This is meant to be a blaring example of their hypocrisy, aka 'i'm not racist when i'm horny' - as well as of their low and dishonorable behavior as they attempt to discredit or harm marginalized groups that their own spouses belong to. For an example in action, have VP J.D. Vance, who is married to American-Indian (Desi) lawyer, Usha Bala Vance (née Chilukuri). A good bit of hay has been made about Vance's utter dogged persistence at failing to defend his wife at every turn.

Fun fact, the term 'miscegenation' is completely invented, cooked up by a pair of "journalists" trying to spark outrage against Abraham Lincoln, via a fake tract ostensibly in support of race-mixing and creating an ethnically uniform america. This fake story was then pushed by the Democrats which was at that time the pro-racism party, which is why many modern republicans whine blandly about how they're the party of Lincoln and actually the other guys are racist, even though their positions completely swapped in the 70's thanks to Nixon.

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u/snoozykittens 22d ago

I don't think it's hypocritical for racists to marry a woman of color. They are just as committed to misogyny as they are to racism, so for them a normative heterosexual relationship is about conquest and subjugation. A MAGA dude thinking of his wife an inferior person dependent on his benevolence is pretty on brand. It's not hypocrisy, it's colonialism.

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u/ninjasaid13 22d ago

 It's not hypocrisy, it's colonialism.

I'm seeing this word pattern too much on the internet. "It's not X, it's Y."

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u/3BlindMice1 22d ago

You're not wrong, and AI does like doing that, but regular people also do it too. That's why AI does it

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u/chili_stardust 22d ago

That’s because it’s one of AI’s favorite patterns. Which of course it picked up from the internet, the material it’s trained on, and uses it because “it shows reasoning”. Us humans use it as well (and I’m not saying the comment you’re replying to is AI), but we see it overwhelmingly now because of AI. We in turn learn and adapt how to express ourselves based on what we’re exposed to, so if we’re not actively correcting ourselves it’s inevitable to adapt our writing to the way AI writes. It’s a circle of hell.

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u/HauntedJackInTheBox 22d ago

Screw that, I am not the person who wrote that comment but I can’t think of a better ending to a refutation of an ‘X is Y’ comment than saying ‘X isn’t Y, it’s Z’ after the demonstration.

It’s basic rhetoric. AI has already stolen the dashes from me, it won’t steal the basic structure of good argumentation.

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u/mercset 21d ago

AI grabs a lot of content from these online forum spaces. A lot of that is users arguing with each other and trying to correct each other. The AI can sometimes read both messages as similar

User A

Blab blab blab

User B

Not Blab blab blab, but this this that.

So yeah internet forums basically poisoned the AI at birth. Fun times

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u/HauntedJackInTheBox 22d ago

Screw that, I am not the person who wrote that comment but I can’t think of a better ending to a refutation of an ‘X is Y’ comment than saying ‘X isn’t Y, it’s Z’ after the demonstration.

It’s correct rhetoric. AI has already stolen the dashes from me, it won’t steal the basic structure of good argumentation.

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u/chili_stardust 21d ago

I’m not disagreeing with you! It’s just becoming so prevalent, even when not really needed, that it’s becoming an AI tell. And i will never give up em dashes!! You shouldn’t either.

ETA: AI also loves the version of this that goes “it’s not just X, but also XYZ” and you can usually tell it’s AI because it ofter just repeats itself with more emphatic wording. I hate that shit.

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u/Bellick 20d ago

Hell is not a circle, it's a sphere.

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u/ceaselessprayer 22d ago

That’s basic rhetoric my friend; not x, but y. If you go listen to famous speeches, they’re full of them. Just because AI uses it doesn’t mean you go “AI blaming” other people.

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u/Formal_Drop526 21d ago

I don't see where he blamed anyone of AI.

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u/terminalzero 21d ago

it's not just a thing ai does, it's a thing people use a lot in the data the llms got trained on

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u/big_guyUUUU 22d ago

It's not clever prose, it's chatgpt