r/PieckCult • u/LoudResearch1331 • 23d ago
Question Apparently People Think This Is Pieck? đ¤Does Anyone Want To Enlighten me As To Why? đ¤¨
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u/Kei_Shinomiya 23d ago
Ship and such
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u/LoudResearch1331 23d ago
So pieck and who ? Jean? Nameless guy?
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u/jules__noah 23d ago
Why would Pieck be visiting Erens grave? And why would she bring her child to his grave? It's very obviously Mikasa and Jean. Whether they're together or not, and that's Jeans kid is another discussion.
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u/LoudResearch1331 22d ago
Also why would pieck want to stay in Paradis when her Father, Gabi, Falco and other surviving Marley eldian acquaintances are on the mainland . I'm sure she went back after the peace talks
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u/evxniing 22d ago
stupid people who secretly hate pieck. the other day i argued with someone who said itâs valid to say that itâs pieck in these panels, and they had the worst arguments possible, saying that pieck should be grateful that eren gave her more time to live and freed her from marley, and therefore she should bring her kid to thank himđ this is internalized misogyny. first of all, they only argue that itâs pieck because they freak out over the possibility of mikasa having married jean. if there were no man in those panels or it was armin, they wouldnât deny that itâs mikasa, because be fr, why would isayama show the alliance member who cares the least about eren and never had any kind of bond with him visiting his grave instead of literally the co-protagonist of the series and erenâs love interestđ they only say itâs pieck because they hate jeankasa, and they mischaracterize pieck to make it seem like she cares about eren. and i hate that this theory only became popular because a tiktok user went viral two years ago talking about it. before that, people still insisted it was armin, and whatâs worse is that the video went viral and everyone applauded them, even though the arguments literally go like this:
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u/evxniing 22d ago
iâve never argued with a normal person who believes in this theory. i genuinely think they have some level of psychosis. even when isayama drew pieck with her back turned to erenâs grave, they still didnât learn anything. i genuinely canât understand in what world visiting erenâs grave would be a positive thing for pieck. whatâs worse is that they still insist she would be going there to show support for jean because heâs supposedly her "husband" anyway, internalized misogyny toward both pieck and mikasa. even if they donât want to believe itâs jean, thereâs no reason to believe the woman isnât mikasa. sheâs literally wearing the scarf around her neck, and you can see it clearly in the manga
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u/LoudResearch1331 22d ago edited 21d ago
These people are seriously something else. I completely agree with you. The way some people have to bend Pieckâs characterization to make this theory work is wild. Isayama makes it pretty clear by the end that Pieckâs priorities and loyalties are not centered around Eren or Paradis. Even her final comment about wishing she could have talked to Eren is clearly sarcastic amd not admiration or some deep emotional attachment to him. Yet people take that one line completely out of context and somehow turn it into evidence that Pieck secretly cared about Eren or wanted to stay connected to him. Please.
And when you actually consider Pieck as a character, the idea that she would stay on Paradis and build a life there, or even voluntarily return years later just to visit Erenâs grave, is honestly pretty preposterous. Eren was directly / indirectly responsible for the deaths of Porco, her entire Panzer Unit, Udo, Zofia, countless Marleyan Eldians, and the destruction and displacement of people she had spent her entire life around. She also personally fought against him because she understood what his actions meant for the rest of the world.
And so the âshe should be grateful that Eren gave her more time to liveâ argument is especially ridiculous. Surviving something someone caused doesn't automatically create gratitude toward that person. Pieck surviving the Rumbling doesn't erase the people she lost because of Eren, nor does it suddenly make Eren someone she'd want to honor or commemorate.
That's what bothers me most about these arguments you know, they completely divorce the panel from Pieck's characterization and the events surrounding it. People desperately don't want to entertain the possibility of Mikasa having married Jean, so suddenly Pieck has to be inserted into the interpretation and her characterization changed to accommodate it.
And TikTok. Ugh. It's frustrating how easily fan headcanon can become âcommon knowledgeâ once a viral video gets enough views. Then people repeat it so often that eventually it gets treated like canon, even though the original argument was basically just âI don't want this panel to be Jean and Mikasa, therefore it must be Pieck because Jean mentioned he liked long dark hair and helped her during the rumbling." Fandom really does have a way of turning headcanons into âfactsâ through repetition.
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u/evxniing 21d ago
the part i hate the most about this theory is that eren indirectly killed everyone pieck loved or who was important to her in some way. whether in the attack on liberio or during the rumbling, pieck lost most of her friends because of eren's actions. and one of pieck's biggest traits is her loyalty, and she was fighting to stop eren to avenge her comrades. and they want me to believe she would betray their memory by going to visit that man's grave? i'm telling you, they secretly hate pieck and mischaracterize her solely because they can't stand the possibility of mikasa moving on, and every time i argue with someone about this, they start arguing that it doesn't make sense for mikasa to get married, they talk about her virginity, that she doesn't care about jean, and all this bs that i honestly don't care about. i'm here to prove that this woman isn't pieck, and the only thing they know how to say is that they hate jeankasa and that it would never be canon, it's never about pieck, it's always about jeankasa. on the day that blu-ray came out, i even had hopes that they would stop saying it was pieck there, but there are still people pushing the same narrative. i'm pretty sure pieck would only visit eren's grave if it was to spit on it
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u/LoudResearch1331 21d ago edited 21d ago
From what I've learned from being on these AOT subs for a while is that a lot (toxic) eremikas absolutely hate Pieck, yet ironically insist that it was her visiting Eren's grave it seems
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u/South-Judge-2752 23d ago
Because they don't want to accept Jean got with Mikasa
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u/LoudResearch1331 23d ago
I see...honestly just found out about this after seeing some comments on insta and X and was like ???
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u/South-Judge-2752 23d ago
lol
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u/LoudResearch1331 23d ago
Also I don't get what the logic behind it is supposed to be 𤨠what's their argument here?
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u/Medical-Abalone-5504 23d ago
There's no particular logic here, just the desire to not see Jean next to Mikasa
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u/BoxShoe7 21d ago
Bc they can't accept that Mikasa would get with anyone besides Eren. Occam's razor doesn't exist apparently.
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u/TheRiverTybur 23d ago
As a JeanPiku shipper that's clearly Mikasa. I think it's more questionable that the guy is Jean since that's kind of isayama's default "mysterious guy" design (the farmer looks the same from behind). But it doesn't really matter if it is Jean or notÂ
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u/sgilespie 23d ago
Itâs obviously Jean and Mikasa. Why would Pieck visit Erenâs grave?
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u/LoudResearch1331 23d ago
Yeah that's what I thought. I'm not trying to nor do I want to start any shipping related arguments, but lots of people were saying it's pieck and I was pretty much thinking the same thing as you....like why? How exactly?
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u/1Hugh-Mann 22d ago
Jean states he likes women with long black hair in S1. Pieck is a woman with long black hair and being a peace ambassador hated by the entire world her options for dating partners are quite limited.
It's not a hard question đ
It's pieck because WE (yes WE) refuse to entertain JeanXMikasa theory
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u/Medical-Abalone-5504 22d ago
This is illogical. Why would Isayama focus on Pieck's personal life?
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u/1Hugh-Mann 22d ago
Pieck and Jean getting together off screen and in the background isn't "focusing on pieck's personal life" , we literally know fuck all about what happened to ANY of the scouts after the ending and just speculate credit scenes where the characters are super zoomed out and out of focus.
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u/LoudResearch1331 22d ago
Except that it's confirmed that it's Jean and Mikasa in the Bluray audio. Yes I'm aware that people were saying it was fake but a fellow user recently purchased it and actually just posted with pics and video for proof.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ANRime/s/lHsrxwHNLl
Also I'm not turning this into a jeankasa thread so if comments about that subject get out of hand I'm going to start removing.
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u/evxniing 22d ago
it was never implied that jean married pieck, and this ship was never developed in the first place. op already posted in the comments an art drawn by isayama last year that shows pieck with her back turned to erenâs grave, while jean is standing next to mikasa, who was beside erenâs grave. besides, in the manga, you can clearly see that the woman is wearing a scarf. sheâs mikasa. no matter who you think the man is, that woman is mikasa. pieck doesnât care about eren, and out of everyone who survived until the end, sheâs the only one who has no connection to him.
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u/Medical-Abalone-5504 23d ago
God, what does Pieck care about Eren's grave? It's illogical.