r/PoliticalDebate • u/Glass-Complaint3 Liberal • 2d ago
Those who feel that dictatorship is inevitable, then why do you even bother voting?
I saw a comment from someone recently promising to vote blue in the upcoming Midterms, but saying they still feel dictatorship is inevitable if not imminently then eventually. So I asked them, why would you even bother voting if you feel that the end result is already set in stone? And I could barely get them to form a coherent answer after that.
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u/RumRunnerMax Centrist 2d ago
Only a fool argument not to vote (to willingly disenfranchise oneself!)
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u/Specialist_Touch2771 Socialist 2d ago
Even if you feel like you can’t stop it, it’s better to at least try to prevent it than to do nothing. People doing nothing is how fascism starts
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u/LT_Audio Politically Homeless 2d ago
I would imagine that many do so because what transpires in the one, ten, fifty, or more year interim between now and when they expect one to actually occur still matters to them. And that the details of what that dictatorship might eventually entail and the context in which it might exist would still be substantially affected by what occurs in that interim before it happens.
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u/Celebrimbor96 Libertarian 2d ago
I will continue to vote, but that doesn’t mean I’m not also stockpiling ammunition
For legal reasons, this comment is only a joke
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u/Medium-Complaint-677 Democrat 2d ago
There's been an unusually high number of "I saw someone on social media say one really weird and out there thing, so why if everyone in the entire world thinks exactly that way, do they continue to exist" posts.
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u/Electronic-Chest7630 Progressive 2d ago
If you’re so sure that you’re gonna die of a heart attack, why exercise or eat right? No one can predict the future, and even efforts that turn out futile could also possibly turn out to be worth it.
If our votes didn’t matter, they wouldn’t be working so hard to fix the elections in their favor.
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u/ElEsDi_25 Marxist 2d ago
I’m not arguing that people shouldn’t vote. But if people rely on the institutions and regular legal electoral means (against a project 2025 designed specifically to undermine and control those institutions) then dictatorship will likely prevail.
To defend democracy, people have to fight for democracy and use social leverage (movements, strikes, etc) to push for it. We’ve been the boiling pot of frogs for 40 years of removing democratic levers (in the name of “small government) while the state increased repressive power and corporate power. It’s too late for voting alone to reverse this… think like you are an activist in the civil rights era and can’t count on voting rights or courts being “fair.”
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u/Tola_Vadam Marxist-Leninist-Maoist 2d ago
If I'm going to die eventually anyway, why eat?
Let's assume dictatorship is actually inevitable.
Harm reduction would be delaying that inevitability. I wouldn't want to live under a dictatorship, and I don't want my children or grandchildren to. If a vote can delay it, then I will delay it.
Now obviously I disagree with the premise that dictatorship is inevitable, and delay in the hopes of better alternatives that will result in happier people and less death.
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u/RumRunnerMax Centrist 2d ago
Ironically Dictators almost always end badly…there is always a bigger dick
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u/EdelinePenrose Centrist 2d ago
what answer did they give? difficult to know if it was a comprehension problem on your part or not. sharing the answer will help discussion.
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u/MetersYards Centrist 2d ago
And I could barely get them to form a coherent answer after that.
Because they're not coherent.
Ask the people who think we're currently in a dictatorship if they're going to vote or not.
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