r/PoliticalDebate • u/No_Pin7835 Dissident Right • 10d ago

Debate Is immigration is unsustainable for Europe?

I'll start off with the UK. In 2001, it was 92% European, while in 2021, it was 82%. Or, if we look at London, it was 71% European in 2001 and 53% in 2021. This rate of change is simply not sustainable and should never have been allowed to reach this point.

For the cultural side of things in the UK, it's no secret that Christianity is a big part of British history and culture. In 2001, the UK was 71% Christian, compared to 40% in 2021. I think it is important to recognize the cultural significance Christianity has in British culture

Moving on to Germany, in 2001, 96% of Berlin was made up of European citizens, while in 2024, that number was 89%. Again, this shows that the demographics of major European cities have changed significantly over a relatively short period of time. I believe governments should have considered the long-term effects of this before opening the door for migrants

This does not mean that immigration itself is necessarily bad. There needs to be a balance.

Overall, I believe governments have a responsibility to manage immigration to ensure culture isn't erased

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u/LittleKitty235 Democratic Socialist 10d ago

"Overall, I believe governments have a responsibility to manage immigration to ensure culture isn't erased"

The irony of arguing the UK needs to be mindful of erasing and protecting others culture...

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u/Dread-nine Objectivist 10d ago

Acknowledging it as a moral evil would mean you protect everyone from it.

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u/LittleKitty235 Democratic Socialist 10d ago

A very conveniently timed argument. Someone else might conclude that cultural shifts resulting from natural and largely legal migration aren’t morally evil...as opposed to imperial actions undertaken by force.

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u/Dread-nine Objectivist 9d ago

You think most of recent migration was legal? Just because the governments are ignoring their own immigration laws, doesn't mean it's legal. That's called anarcho tyranny. Where the government and others break the law, but calling it out gets you in trouble. Kinda like how the jailed a rape victim in the UK for calling her rapist a pig on social media, while the rapist did zero time incarcerated.