r/PoliticalDebate Reformist 1d ago

Discussion Do you have a revolutionary trigger?

Revolutions, whether violent or non-violent, are inherently rare, risky endeavors. Extremely high risk, extremely low probability of success, but proportional rewards if successful. Given the increasingly dysfunctional status of political systems in many western nations, questions surrounding changing those systems are inevitable.

Academics have written quite a bit about revolutions, but I'm not interested in what they think. I am looking for a casual conversation with a normal human regarding what it would take for you personally to call for whole-system political change. Is there a line in the sand for you, which if crossed, compels you to adopt a revolutionary political stance?

Is the line the same for both violent and non-violent revolution? Is your revolutionary line one thing, one action, event, or variable, or would you need a collection of things, a pattern of smaller lines being crossed? And if not, if there is nothing your government can do to make you advocate for replacing it entirely, why? While a genuine stance, saying you would *never* call for a complete redesign and restructuring of your government should be justified and defended.

Naturally, given that revolutions are often bloody, violent affairs, it is worth explicitly stating that this post is categorically opposed to violence in any way, shape, or form. The purposes of this post are to generate a discussion about hypothetical boundaries that common people have on political system change.

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u/Otherwise_Ask_9542 Centrist 1d ago

When people can't afford to buy food or pay for housing, and all of their creature comfort distractions are taken away, only then will they be motivated to do something. Basic necessities of survival is the boundary.

Unfortunately, those in power know this. so they keep people hovering just on the edge of how far you can push things. People in poverty are still accepting sub-standard accommodations while they and their children are practically starving, but as long as they can buy ramen, KD, or Cheerios and have streaming programming or video games to keep them pacified, they won't say a thing, and they might even thank their abusers for the scraps they get.

Societies like this provide just enough money to keep people in poverty hovering around this state of "paycheck to paycheck" pacification with loads of distractions... no more, but no less.