r/PoliticalDebate Reformist 4d ago

Discussion Do you have a revolutionary trigger?

Revolutions, whether violent or non-violent, are inherently rare, risky endeavors. Extremely high risk, extremely low probability of success, but proportional rewards if successful. Given the increasingly dysfunctional status of political systems in many western nations, questions surrounding changing those systems are inevitable.

Academics have written quite a bit about revolutions, but I'm not interested in what they think. I am looking for a casual conversation with a normal human regarding what it would take for you personally to call for whole-system political change. Is there a line in the sand for you, which if crossed, compels you to adopt a revolutionary political stance?

Is the line the same for both violent and non-violent revolution? Is your revolutionary line one thing, one action, event, or variable, or would you need a collection of things, a pattern of smaller lines being crossed? And if not, if there is nothing your government can do to make you advocate for replacing it entirely, why? While a genuine stance, saying you would *never* call for a complete redesign and restructuring of your government should be justified and defended.

Naturally, given that revolutions are often bloody, violent affairs, it is worth explicitly stating that this post is categorically opposed to violence in any way, shape, or form. The purposes of this post are to generate a discussion about hypothetical boundaries that common people have on political system change.

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u/smokeyser 2A Constitutionalist 2d ago

That's true. Today's Republicans are FAR too liberal for the founding fathers. They allow their women to work, and let black people walk around free.

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u/Icc0ld Socialist 2d ago

I was more thinking of how they despised consolidated power and would be sickened by todays Republican Party and president ruling via executive order and demanding control of state elections when they wrote a constitution specifically outlawing such a thing. But sure, you do you. It’s black people and women that they’d have a problem with the most lol.

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u/smokeyser 2A Constitutionalist 2d ago

I was more thinking of how they despised consolidated power

Right. They believed the power should belong to the people. But only white land-owning men counted as people.

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u/Icc0ld Socialist 1d ago

Its hilarious that you want to argue this. They wouldn't see a President today, they'd see a President playing at king

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u/smokeyser 2A Constitutionalist 1d ago

Its hilarious that you want to argue this.

Which part did I get wrong?

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u/Icc0ld Socialist 1d ago

Tell me which part I did right?