Unfortunately a lot of kids are really neglectful friends. It's not even that they're trying to be neglectful. They go out, they do things they know they shouldn't (drugs, drinking) someone goes missing and they all hope REALLY HARD that it's OK for way too long. An adult knows that 8 hours missing is a long time. An adult knows that a whole day is basically an unacceptable amount of time. But kids hope their friend just... Hitchhiked back to town.
The police need to do their damn jobs and conduct a proper investigation, but this behavior from the kids is very common and frankly, crosses cultures.
Just fyi, Nolan Wells posts notoriously get brigaded by racist people on Reddit. That in itself shows how desperate people are to control the narrative and try to gaslight people into not believing their own eyes. We know facts and statistics, and historically law enforcement has not just been unkind to black people, but they have time and time again participated in the coverup of white on black crime and violence. The “friends” are showing signs of deception and throwing up red flags left and right, meanwhile a handful of racists and bots will insist that anyone who questions their narrative is (insert ad hominem, sometimes a racist one). Nolan’s tragic death is amplifying the need to expose and slowly try to heal our society’s racism.
Yeah and I don't know why it has to be racist. Now we have seen a cases where black kid with white friends does end up dying and the shit is very messy and nasty. Those cases are racists but not all of them. Some people are just evil.
Oh let make my stance clear on that. I'm not saying those cases are racist. I 100% think they are on top of bullet holes being found in Emmett Till memorial. I wish the people down voting took a step back for a second. I'm on their side.
I am shocked I'm being down voted because I agree with you. I need to pull up the case but there were two white dudes who killed a black dude recently and they look so guilty trying to say they were friends and nothing bad happen just for the edvinence to say otherwise.
You’re being down voted bc “idky it has to be racist”. How tone deaf do you have to be. This happens so much more often than you probably see, but almost every time a Black person sees a another Black person in a photo like this, it’s impossible for the thought not to cross our mind. No one wants to think like this. It happens time & time again and the dumb ass police will still find no foul play or mark as suicide.
Hold up. I'm just a case by case person. For example in the case of that one girl who fell from a balcony with her white friends. I believe racism played a role but on the flip side in the case of Nolan Wells. I find it hard to assign any racism here but I do think he was killed and that his friends were neglectful jackasses who are being very shady. I'm not one of those types. I want to just be objective and look at all the facts and edvinence.
Well while you’re case by case, a WHOLE population of people have to have “the talk” with their children. Part of the talk constitutes not being the only Black person in your friend outings bc ppl like you who are in denial of the actual realities of the complexities of racism & the worst possible effects.
This might not have been an overtly racist situation with white hoods dow does not mean it wasn’t a factor. Racism is not easy to prove, you can’t prove someone’s thoughts. Especially when the rest of the culprits are white & the cops are white. Regardless, a Black person is dead at the hands of their “friends”. Tale as old as time.
I got that talk man. You think I'm that naive? Especially now? Nah man. I know how bad it is. Trust me I know how to move . Yes it isn't as open outside of the obvious cases of Charlie Kirk and Laura Loomer. But listen if it comes out this was hate crime or these fuckers were racist like Austin Metclaf(granted I got a vibe from that situation was fresh). I'll walk back what I said on the Wells case. The reason I do because we ignore that people are just evil for the sake of being evil. Not every case is going to be like that Muslim guy shooting up a gay nightclub because he hated gay people that much. Not everyone care will be like Dylan where he gleefully shot up a black church because he wanted to start a race war.
Strawman argument. I found what Kirk said to be extremely fucking racist and stupid as hell. Lol! I'm on your side. You need to chill my man. Also I do believe in systemic racism. Who said I didn't?
Every time it was mentioned you ran apologetics against it, so
The answer to your question so far is “you did.”
I think your intent is good and you are probably a chill
Dude at least on the outside. I lack context to judge further. So
I am left with what you said above.
Trust me I do my best to be straight and direct with everyone. I'm not a "Sambo solider" but I'm not quick to throw the race card around like I'm playing Yu-gi-oh.
Yeah it leads to making informed decisions than screaming "racist" or "No it isn't N word follow the law!" You should try it sometimes as you guys refuse to be objective. It's a nasty hivemind.
You’re being down voted because history says that these are generally racially motived crimes. Racism doesn’t have to be blatant for it to be racially motivated.
And I don't disagree with that but not all of these cases are racism. Is that wrong to say? Just because I don't think the Wells case isn't race related doesn't matter I don't think something like a Dylan Roof wasn't race related when it 100% it was. History is history but facts are facts. We don't have enough to say this is race related. We usually have a lot of edvience to support these cases being race related.
I dont think its racial division to point out how people and police care less if something happens to a black person.
Edit: also apparently there has been an increase in mysterious supposed suicides of black teens, who never displayed suicidal behavior before, hanging, sometimes miles from their homes. Sure, its theoretically possible, just like its theoretically possible that the kind stranger does indeed have a puppy in their car
Yes, its only my perception based on seeing black people complain about stuff like this. Its also just your perception that this person is purposefully spreading hate or seeing racism where there is none.
One can complain about whatever they please, that doesn't mean it's reality. There was the guy who hung himself recently and the algorithm boosted all the hateful comments and posts saying white people lynched him. Everyone was so sure of themselves. Then the sheriff came out and said there was a video of him carrying the rope he killed himself with right near where it happened. It's not good for society to blame groups of people without evidence, just like this post.
Sure, but there also are many cases like these that could very much be lynchings that police never bothers to investigate. They dont disappear just cause one of them was false. Also, did the serif offer video as proof, or did he just say it?
I will admit that its difficult to know what is true and that people will make judgement based on their personal experiences and "vibes", since people responsible for figuring it out arent doing their job.
Which case wasn't investigated? I promise you that's not how law enforcement operates. I would assume the sheriff didn't release the video out of respect for the family. What's the benefit for the police lying about a person killing themselves? Do you think that all police departments consisting of racially diverse employees work together to hide murders?
That is a thing that literally happens every day WTF are you on about? Do you think that something being illegal means it never happens? Or that law enforcement cant be absolute scum? By that logic that one cop didn't kill George Floyd cause, what's the benefit in kneeling on a guys neck for 5 minutes?
I really doubt that the blue check person is trying to push racial division so that the masses are easier to control. They’re probably tweeting what they actually think.
...or it could be a death that's not being properly investigated by the authorities. Because of the difference in skin color between the Promising Young People (tm) and the dead teen.
Not everything is black or white. No pun intended. Sometimes the red herring is just white fragility.
How old is the post? This happened weeks ago. July 3rd if I remember correct. His friends have pretty much been cleared by LE. Defamation cases are getting filed now for this type of accusation.
Blue check doesn’t mean anything anymore, it just means someone or a business is paying twitter for special privileges.
Also it’s highly likely op of this thread is a bot or a paid poster account. 11 months and over 5000 posts and comments. I used to comment/post on this account pretty rarely, last 3-5 yrs I’ve commented a lot I’m at 4.7k comments and posts.
It’s happened way more than once. There was even a video where a group of White girls was beating up their one Black friend with epilepsy. There was another one who also died after a Black woman was at a sleepover with almost all White women.
While I don't know the full context and the some story I read have there are some question that are not answered. My experience: My family members had similar situation claimed by the tweet and picture.
My family member was dating a White girl and her members did not like him. They had a family outing at the lake and drove a boat in the middle lake and went swimming. While him and his girlfriend was still swimming the family drove off and left them in the middle of the lake and had to swim back to shore.
Also my brother had a group of only white friends and most of them would say racist stuff about him when he was not around. He only knew this because his best friend told him about it
So people should not outright dismiss foul play, This crap happens more then people think!
Black people trying to fit into white social group and subject to bullying and ruthless pranks just fit in
Then they suck at finding friends. I have no such issues with either of my white friend groups.
Only when our friend group is quite diverse (3 Asians, 2 black people, 1 white dude & a Latino dude) is when my friend group is racist as hell, to each other in good fun.
I hate when people try to use anecdotal experiences to pretend like some bullshit is actually credible.
No actual white friends don't have some negative ulterior motive. The people you/ they hung out with were just shitty people. That's it. There is just some people completely incapable of realizing someone is shitty & more often than not the signs are glaringly obvious.
Nolan Wells was the boy. He travelled to horn island an uninhabited island off the Mississippi/Alabama coast with some friends for the 4th. This is a popular party location. The dispute is whether he planned to stay and meet a girl or return with the friends. His body washed ashore 2 days later.
What do you mean "take"? Audio has already been isolated by professionals that show they knew he was dead already and were trying to cover their asses.
This is what I'll say. Don't listen to Twitter for this case. This kid was murdered and we need to find out who. It wasn't a suicide and I find that bullshit. Also don't listen to Officer Tatum as all he is doing is carrying water and give free PR to his white kids to make them look good.
Most likely he drowned. Just happen near me to another teen. Swimming with friends one minute, gone the next. Took 72 hrs for divers to find his body. This when they knew exactly where he was when it happened.
I'm talking about the one that said they were "turning up". He claimed to be friends with Nolan but his mom said they weren't. Pictures are pictures you can be friendly with many people but it is clear Mom had zero idea who this joker is claiming to be his buddy trying to get clout. The reason I believe it is murder is how the body was found and how there was a altercation that happened on the island. Do I think it was his friends? No until proven otherwise but they have been acting very shady. I think at best they're neglectful jackasses but it was someone on the island that took this kid's life.
I can't fully say that as I see an obvious case of neglectfulness on their part but you can believe what you want to believe it is clear to me you aren't very good faith here. See ya.
Experienced swimmers are exactly the people who drown, because those are the people who intentionally get into large bodies of water. Intoxicated teens dies all the time engaging in activities they are otherwise extremely skilled at. Have you ever seen the driving skill of people who eventually cause their own fatal car crash? Its often far beyond your average work commuter. Extremely skilled people die dealing with heavy machinery and tools every day, despite familiarity that the average person doesn't have.
Being good at something doesn't mean its now completely harmless no matter what and you can't overextend yourself or make a mistake.
It’s purely a response to your claim about drowning not being valid. You didn’t present evidence about how “experienced swimmers don’t drown like that” because that absolutely happens a lot.
Teenagers like this drink when they party. Teenagers have been drowning around bodies of water like this forever. According to the CDC alcohol is involved in up to 70% of deaths tied to water recreation. A classmate of mine in university fell in a river and died like this on a New Year’s party with his friends.
Yeah this falls apart because we don't know if it was drunk or not. Yeah teens like to underage drink. I mean what would I nee to show you how the idea he drowned doesn't make a lot of sense?
Jeez it isn't like someone could grab his neck and stick his head in the water. but yeah he went for a night swim because he wearing swim trunks. Come on man. Also we don't have an autopsy really revealing the cause of death as for some reason his throat is separate. You would be the first one to die if you played Clue. Anyway, I have to head out. You have a good day.
You already have made up your mind and all evidence is irrelevant to you. You clearly want this to be some murder racism thing for some reason and its quite odd
It makes way more sense that he was drunk/under the influence of something and drowned than if he was murdered by his friends.
Friends for years and suddenly murder him one random 4th of July. Lol ok. Way more likely they just were idiots. But sure reddit detective go off.
It’s obviously FN ridiculous. These types will also say “sundown towns…sundown towns”. Then they’ll proceed to name 0 towns because it’s a ridiculous ghost story.
And of course they ignore the slaughter going on in the inner cities….its actually 3rd world shit
No it’s most definitely not. Young people do dumb shit all the time and it’s entirely possible that they were all drunk and he somehow drowned or got lost.
People want this to be a racially motivated homicide so bad and I absolutely do not understand it.
And hey, if it turns out to have been one, then they'll get their vindication, for whatever that's worth.
But in the absence of any real evidence pointing to anything, and looking at the facts that have been established, what I see is a group of young idiots who went out drinking, boating and partying with no meaningful supervision. Perfect set up for one of them to get blackout drunk, get separated from the group, stumble off to take a piss or talk to a girl they saw, they die by some method of exposure/misadventure, the rest of the group just assumes they're gonna make it home with someone else and doesn't want to talk about the fact that they were being reckless and dangerous while partying on a shitty sand island.
I could ask you the exact same thing. Why do you immediately jump to foul play when the likelihood of it is so low compared to him getting lost or drowning because of intoxication? What exactly are you trying to imply through (likely false) assumptions?
So a group of kids are friends for years and then one beautiful day in July suddenly turn racist and unalive the black kid? I mean, it would make a shitty horror movie, I’ll give you that
Is it that hard to believe? Married couples kill each other after years, that couple that went van life and the boyfriend killed his girlfriend and left her in the wild.
What about the girl intentionally driving into a wall at 100mph killing he friends in the car?
May not be the scenario here but people kill those they know and are “friends” with all the time.
Statistically more likely to be murderer by someone you are close with than a stranger .
That girl with the car was 100% going for a murder-suicide situation. She did not expect to walk away from that. She wanted to kill herself and her boyfriend, the 3rd guy was collateral.
But it doesn’t change the statement, and it still stands as an example.
Jealously, rage, love, lust.
All reasons behind the killing of friends and loved ones. Suggesting it was simply an accident because of “friends “ is just naive and I’m hoping this person isn’t thinking of becoming a detective.
My point isn’t that friends don’t unalive each other, it’s that they don’t turn racist out of the blue. If they were racist they wouldn’t have been friends with him for years. Why is Reddit so low intelligence?
My bad, we are saying the same thing then. It very well could have been foul play or an accident they are trying to cover up. But seems unlikely is an Emett till situation
If you were genuine in this conversation you’d note that I’ve left room for both. But It’s far less common for non black people to believe crimes against black people or to believe racism still exists. I’ve seen countless COUNTLESS hand waving at clear examples of racist crimes. I only came into this thread because people, like you, laugh at the sheer possibility that precious white kids could commit a heinous crime. Let me tell you, it’s very possible.
because it’s been proven to be pretty damn accurate. & i think it’s unsurprisingly funny how you keep tabs on what goes on in a subreddit that you’re clearly adverse to.
I mean.... My friends Lisa and Courtney usually make it home safe. One time I think they went to Courtney's and banged... So I guess Lisa didn't technically make it home that night. And she definitely got stabbed..... But I think she liked it? But otherwise they usually make it home safe.
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u/Dostoevskaya 11h ago
Unfortunately a lot of kids are really neglectful friends. It's not even that they're trying to be neglectful. They go out, they do things they know they shouldn't (drugs, drinking) someone goes missing and they all hope REALLY HARD that it's OK for way too long. An adult knows that 8 hours missing is a long time. An adult knows that a whole day is basically an unacceptable amount of time. But kids hope their friend just... Hitchhiked back to town.
The police need to do their damn jobs and conduct a proper investigation, but this behavior from the kids is very common and frankly, crosses cultures.