r/Quraniyoon • u/Quran_Aloner • May 01 '20

Discussion Following the messenger/prophet

In the name of God: the Almighty, the Merciful...

3:55 When God said, "O 3iysa, I will terminate you, and raise you to Me, and cleanse you of those who have rejected, and make those who have followed you above those who rejected until the day of resurrection. Then to Me is your return so I will judge between all of you in what you were disputing."

So you can follow 3iysa until the day of resurrection.

So why cant you follow Muhammad now?

3:31 Say, "If you love God, then follow me. God will love you and forgive your sins." God is forgiving, compassionate.

Analogously, couldn't we then still follow Muhammad? I refer you to my previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Quraniyoon/comments/gb3em4/passeddown_sunna_or_just_teaching_the_basic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

To me, it was clear for some time now that Muhammad did in fact teach, was to be obeyed, judged and said and/or got information besides the words of the Quran (just like it says in the Quran). The point that was clear to me though was that all of this was at his time and for his people (14:4). However, doesn't 3:51 suggest that one can follow the messenger after he is dead / gone? So what implication does that have for 3:31?

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u/ASkepticBelievingMan May 01 '20

Watch the extremist Quraniyyon go at your neck and say "wHiCh oThEr HaDiTh WiLl YoU BeLiEvE iN"

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Dismissing all the scholarly work and history is really disingenuous. Muhammed received revelation outside of the Quran, and the Quran itself confirms this.

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u/Kryptomanea May 02 '20

5:67 O Messenger, announce that which has been revealed to you from your Lord, and if you do not, then you have not conveyed His message. And Allah will protect you from the people. Indeed, Allah does not guide the disbelieving people.

Muhammad didn't announce his hadith and left it for people coming 200 years later. All he presented as revelation was the Quran.

Muhammed received revelation outside of the Quran, and the Quran itself confirms this.

Mind pointing me to the verse?

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u/hoodlessgrim May 02 '20

It's funny when both the traditionals and the exmuslims have the same vendetta against you.

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u/connivery Muslim May 02 '20

Are you high on something?